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I do think Bai's release in April is way too long. So we got Luna in November, then Bai in April... That's 6 months. Then, the gap between Bai and Seth is 3-4 months, which I think is the perfect amount of time between char releases.

As it stands now, a lot of people are going to be inactive for months to come, which means people aren't going to be as interested in the sales or whatever.

Fortunately, you guys put that dates are subject to change. So all it would take is moving Bai up to late Feb or early March, and you would get people excited to play once again. I doubt this will happen, but if it did, I think it would be quite beneficial to the community and the game as a whole. You could even make a news post or an announcement out of it: 'Hey Closers! Get ready, because Bai is coming Feb. 26th!'

@Icywizard said:
I see. 15 of my friends who were in the same guild probably rage quitted the game last month because of TCP then.. As they couldn't maintain their rank after the server merge I guess? I wonder whose is it that gave such a suggestion on server merge though? Kinda bad suggestion I guess. Although, I have a question, is the content update very slow in here usually? Because from this roadmap, it seems so. So little content in every month being spread apart so far. The other mmorpg online game usually have fast content such as Elsword NA and especially mobile games too. Thanks in advance.

In theory, TCP is just a way to measure a character's strength. In reality, TCP is inflated up by stats like Cooldown Reduction or Skill Cost down and Chase that not every character has a use for, so the TCP Ranking only shows who goes out of their way to raise their TotalCombatPower as high as possible.

Updates were super fast last year, some poeple le actually got burned out by the speed. When they got thei end-game gear the next update came and brought new, much better gear. Updates hit every 2 weeks, bringing either new characters, a new event or new end-game-content. This year slows a bit down, because we are getting closer to the amount of content the original server in Korea has got (giving us ~2 years of content in a single year - check out Solbanes Comment in the Bai-thread). That's why EME slows down the content drops a little bit.

@Tekniqal said:

@SuzumiyaSolbane said:
You're 100% correct. The content needed to slow down otherwise we'd be caught up around April or May, then we're just stuck with the same grind nonstop with nothing new for god knows how long.

While I understand why updates needed to be slowed eventually, I don't think it was necessary to leave such a large gap between us and KR. By the end of the road map, we will be roughly 10 months behind KR. Some games have caught up to and remained within 6 months of the original server and if the player numbers and game's longevity have anything to show for it, the players are happy.

I agree that the gap doesn't seem to make that much sense, but Seth in August would make it an 8 month gap instead of a 10 month. With hybrid task forces in July it seems that a ~8 month gap is the end plan for things right now, but that may shorten down to a 7 or 6 month gap over time.

I hope we are getting an official announcement of all the bugs EU players are experiencing and in case some are not fixable this should be communicated asap instead of being swept under the rug and left to be forgotten.
In my case the two bugs that are affecting me are not having the rare costumes frames and Purification/Hell progress being wiped out. I've been working with Closers support to get those two issues fixed and even though they're doing the best they can having in mind that probably they're overwhelmed by the amount of tickets opened due the server merge.

Rare Costumes Visual Frames
Probably the easiest one to "fix" by mailing the users their respective titles. I'm assuming that EME expected this to be fixed by the 1/31 hotfix but truth is that it wasn't.
Crafting a rare costume is not an easy task, even for "whales" as you may need to do several tries for one or more pieces that can involve different things: upgrading costumes to 3* assuming you have the necessary mats to do it, buying 3* costumes from BM or the simpler one, using costumes that you already have but not care if they're lost on the process of getting a rare costume. Basically, these are the reasons why these costumes are rarely seen on BM for a cheap price.
Everyone who crafted these costumes has their achievement that thankfully were not lost and should be enough proof that they should have those frames on certain characters.
The trickiest part would be frames gotten through 10/10 o 6/6 boxes. In my case I do have my Wolfgang affected by this, as I got the Meister Bündel for him and got the frame by spending $150 on the game. I have the receipt for it, so I assume that should be my other proof but, even though I already provided screenshots for that, 9 days later I still don't have said frames.
I know that some people may not be on the same boat as me for having the receipt for what I bought, especially if the boxes they got where through the MEGA Random Box or Golden Gift Boxes which I'm hoping EME is a bit lenient on that as you don't get a receipt or any proof that you got a rare costume box that way… Some may have videos or screenshots but probably not everyone has it.

Purification Achievement Progress has been wiped
This one is the most concerning one. Some people started since Puri was released to work towards those rewards, some being wings, accessories, among other stuff. This bug not only reset our progress through those rewards, but it also makes us start Purification and Contamination Hell from scratch and now we need to get levels 5-6 unlocked.
Yod and Nitocris can be easily unlocked in one day but Tindalos and Harpas need a lot of work:

• Clearing levels 1-2 requires: 1) 3 lvl 1 boss runs, 2) 5 lvl 2 boss runs, and 3) 10 side runs. For elite/platinum players you can do it in 2~3 days but for regular players you need 4 days which is still a week of waiting as we don't have these runs available every day.
• Clearing levels 3-4 requires: 1) 5 lvl 3 boss runs, 2) 10 lvl 4 boss runs, and 3) 20 side runs. This one is at least 5 days of work for elite/platinum and again, counting the stages availability this could translate to around week and a half of work.

Once you actually unlock those levels you restart your work towards the rewards which not only you may have lost from 1 to 199 runs but you also lost 23 boss runs that you had to do to unlock something you already had.

I've read some comments that we have the chance to have double rewards which is actually a slap on the face, not a good thing. If you managed to clear any of the accessories, wings or iris quests then yes, you may aim to get them again and maybe you'll have a spare set of accs that can tune differently like trying a PVP build or if you are PVPer then create a PVE build but if you are on the sad end that had 10, 100, 199 runs towards any of those quests is simply awful to hear that you have to start all over again especially when the players know the effort and time we need to invest to do 200 runs:

• 200 runs for Tindalos/Harpas = 14 weeks of work for elite/plat and 20 for regular users
• 200 runs for Yod/Nitocris = 34 weeks for elite/plat and 67 for regular users

All of these are not counting extra runs on weekends, or especial events that include extra runs. The other quests/missions are not worth it to have them twice as pets, titles or simple regular materials that by now we have tons of them are simply not appealing.

Now to analyze Contamination Hell rewards and mission, these ones are quite easy to get if you are geared and do not take that much to complete (5 days to fully unlock Replica). By having double rewards you are able to get 25 fibers to craft hell costumes, 13 mats for T4/T5 transcendence stones and 40 mats to craft Hell gear which can be used either for trinkets or budget hell mods.

Now, knowing all of this, are double rewards a good thing? Besides Contamination Hell I don't see anything positive about this.

As a developer and project manager myself I know that shit happens, surprises happen, and this was probably something EME did not even think that could happen to EU players, but the lack of communication is disappointing. I just received a reply for my ticket about Purification and again, is just disappointing that the users need to find out through tickets what is affecting a whole region and there can't be an official announcement from EME on all the issues found from the merge, what they can fix, what they can't and what do the users need to do.
There's already a feeling on the EU players that EME doesn't care about EU and right now EME is not doing anything to prove the users that that's wrong impression on their part. I know Rukia, Bunny and Hime have been nothing but helpful trying to gather all the users concerns and communicate them to EME and let us know what they know from their side but I think it's time that EME issues an official statement on all this as by know they know what can be fixed and what can't (again, all of this is from the responses I got from support on my open tickets).

Though the merge was a good thing as many positive things came from it like how lively the BM is still I wish we improve on the communication side. I know that is tricky, borderline dangerous to be so open to communicate defects and bugs and be transparent on that part but right now is something that we need to know as at least for me is making me think twice on continue spending money on the game.

This thread is becoming an attack on staff and other participants, so I'm going to reel it back a little here.

Bai

I stated this in the other thread, and I'll state it again here: BAI IS NOT DELAYED. Her planned release has always been for April. In the Bai Feedback thread that took place in mid-January, I stated the following in response to someones suggestion that we release in February:

@bearshoes said:
While I appreciate the suggestion, the time period is much too soon. Builds are created by Naddic, which take time, development, and effort on their part. The time period you propose is much too soon for that to be a possibility.

While I don't have an example of what COULD be a viable time period, again, feedback is taken into consideration, and I'm delivering as much of this to the team as I can. I'll pass this along to everyone as well.

Another thing I want to mention is that some content is dependent on other content to be released first. In this particular case, Season 3 is an important factor in the release of other content, and can be considered a "blocker" of sorts. It's absolutely true that the EME servers have not completely followed the KR release schedule, but it IS bound by some rules.

A great example of this was the branch update that happened in the middle of 2018, which brought with it a new UI and several system upgrades. Without that branch update, we aren't able to add additional content like characters, story quests, SA upgrades, etc.

All of this information is relevant. As someone mentioned earlier in this thread, Bai cannot be released before Season 3 is released, as she's a major player in that story. We're still on a cadence of an update every 2 week, which means tight planning on both Naddic and EME's part to make sure that we're pushing out content as fast as possible. It is not as simple as "people want (specific content), so we need to push that out right now". It is dependent on what the teams are able to create, blockers that exist in previous patches (as I pointed out in the quoted text above), and an overall release schedule.

I also stated in the Bai thread that your feedback is heard, listened to, and considered, but it doesn't always mean something is going to change. I completely understand that Bai is highly anticipated by some of you, but if it's not possible to release her any sooner than what was previously planned, then it's not something we can change. Changes absolutely can (and have!) happened through your feedback, but sometimes it's simply not feasible.

Content release schedule

In the Korean server, content patches are very far between. Obviously in our server, we're releasing something every 2 weeks, and each one of those patches has some sort of content associated with it, whether it's an event, new character content, new story content, new dungeons, etc. Things are naturally going to be spread out. Our team and Naddic's team have created this content schedule based on what we believe is not only a good rate of content, but on what we believe is possible. Releasing a huge chunk of content, and then not doing an update for a couple of months is NOT an option.

Forum Etiquette

I've said it before, and I will say it again: attacking others IS NOT and WILL NOT be tolerated. Chiding members of the community, as well as specific members of the Closers team is not only not constructive, but it's verbally abusive, and does nothing to promote an inviting community. Once more, I will be removing and editing comments in this thread, and issuing warnings and suspensions based on the content of those posts.

Continued abuse towards others will result in further actions being taken, and the closure of this thread.

Be constructive. Be courteous. Be empathetic.

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@Vincentv95 said:
Don´t choose seth, only villians choose seth. Bai is the right girl...Seth too edgy is like the little sister of nata or something like that. Gameplay wise lol I don´t know...have to test both.

WDYM why don't you just play yuri without gun skills? there you got your Bai

Why don't you just play Misteltein and scream "AWOOOOO"? There you got your Seth

Say no more.

You did say that in a DO not do that way right?

Seth has cute costumes therefore that instantly makes me approve of this thread.

I see your Seth and Raise you a Mash.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/530100765159850010/538196777753509888/mashalot.jpg
Mash best Kohai

sounds like you just wanted to promote your boobs and kouhai fetish to everyone here when all we wanted is the awoooo loli