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Re: 11/4/2019 - "Task Force Triaina Rebellion: Nata" Patch Discussion
People wanted the faster updates but when they came to forums to make their voice they were slaughtered with insults and offenses by some players who defended slow updates and even by a certain EME Streamer Partner .
They couldn't voice theirselfs freely without being insulted by them.
Unfortunally EME heard the wrong people and the result is the one we see today.
Re: 11/4/2019 - "Task Force Triaina Rebellion: Nata" Patch Discussion
Keep in mind the content updates are at a Snail's pace now due to everyone telling EME that they need to slow down in content updates.
Re: 11/4/2019 - "Task Force Triaina Rebellion: Nata" Patch Discussion
One thing I notice since this last update is that for some reason the game is crashing a lot more for me. Before this update I would get your typical crash with error window 2 or 3 times per week, now I am getting it every day and some times multiple times per day.
This is not the known memory leak problem in wich the game crash after many hours of playing. The error I am talking about happens during loading screens most of the time and it can happen just minutes after you start the game, this with a ton of ram and vram free for the game.
Most annoying about it is that if you play on full screen mode like I do, you are not even able to click the error window to see the error code since the screen is sort of locked and only way remove the lock is closing the error window (does not allow to send report or see details).
I had to use my phone to take a picture since I was unable to screen shot due obvious reasons:


Re: 11/4/2019 - "Task Force Triaina Rebellion: Nata" Patch Discussion
Going to play devil's advocate here and argue against some points people bring up.
First off, they can't do anything, they can cry and tell naddic "Hey can we have our stuff faster?" but if Naddic says no, that's the end. They can voice their opinion to Naddic just like we can voice our opinion to eme but if Naddic doesn't budge, they can't do shit no matter how much people want it. I'll admit though, it's becoming blatantly obvious that Naddic doesn't really care for the other servers, just Korea, which is fair, that's their target audience.
Secondly: I'm seeing people talking about free awakened Tia? Yes it was free..the second time it came out and you had to grind about 5k dungeons in 1 week to get it, a lot of people burned out getting it. If you want to experience that too that's fine.
Thirdly: Free 14? That came because the server (Korea's) is pretty old, I would personally not expect one for free for a while considering how "young" our server is.
Lastly: People going on about the game dying but if you look at Japan that's been around way longer than NA (NA / EU released in late 2017 while JP's been around since 2016), releases at a way slower pace..They don't even have Bai SA yet and have had Bai since July 18th 2019.
EDIT: Gonna go out and say I ain't defending eme with the above post, just arguing to show people perspective.. Feel free to counter-argue anything.
Re: 11/4/2019 - "Task Force Triaina Rebellion: Nata" Patch Discussion
About EME/NADDIC feedback:
EME will never say "We gave the feedback to Naddic about what you wanted but they said us "No" ". They will never say that because it is unethical. Publicly exposing negotiations between companies would cause a breach of trust and make future talks between them very difficult.
About KR Rewards
The good rewards on Server KR are possible for a simple reason: Cashers. It's commom on KR spend money on games, so most of players are cashers there. This possibility to the Publisher give good rewards for free.
About the Game itself:
Probally we're getting the Beel patch in december since looks like EME does the Story updates every 6 months.
It's a slow timeline tbh. It would be better story patchs every 4 months but is still reasonable
The main problem are the patchs during this meantime.
- The Events and its rewards are not attractive to players.
- Task Force Patchs are useless if you don't play the character who's getting the TF
- The events rewards during those TF patchs are not attractive too.
For exemple:
I Main Soma and Alt Bai. What do I have with Tina, J, Yuri, Violet, Luna, wolfgang, Seha and Nata TF? Nothing . I don't play any of them. So all those patchs was useless to me. Same goes for someone who Main one of the 15 characters.
Those patchs are just to "milky" the content. To exend the game's timelife until the Story Patch comes out.
Since every 14 days we got 1 TF (and we got Tina, J, Wolfgang, Yuri, Bai, Violet, Luna, Seha and Nata TF's so far), We can say that we wasted 110 days. Almost 4 months of patchs .
4 months of just "Character "x" gets Task Force. Event: Play, login during TF patch to get an item and craft something."
That's the real problem of the patchs. We don't have good events/rewards while the Story Patch aren't out.
My thoughts
A lot of time is being wasted with useless patchs. I'm not saying to rush the updates. I'm saying to do good patchs that everyone, not only 1 character, can enjoy. Patchs where Events and its rewards are worth to player login and consume his/her time on it.
The problem of to do this is Naddic itself.
Naddic is a lazy develloper that always recycle their dungeons and mobs to create "new events". Just look Halloween dungeon that is the same thing every year. Or events itself that is resumed to collect an item to craft a thing.
A disastrous move
Just an exemple where timing is really important to keep a good playerbase:
Remember Bai release? Yeah, the disastrous decision of just release her in April. It's a good exemple of time wasted.
Her release was the mosted asked in Discord, facebook and forum (ooooh the forum war) The decision to milky her (Plese don't have +18 thoughts about this phrase lol) and release her only in april, shows us today that it was a disaster complete. Game polulation is downhill since then. Some players went to Server KR, and others to the forbbiden one
She is an exemple that timing to release patchs is super important to avoid playerbase to disband.
So EME and Naddic, to waste time with useless patchs shouldn't be in your plans from now on.
Re: 11/4/2019 - "Task Force Triaina Rebellion: Nata" Patch Discussion
@Muryoku said:
Going to play devil's advocate here and argue against some points people bring up.First off, they can't do anything, they can cry and tell naddic "Hey can we have our stuff faster?" but if Naddic says no, that's the end. They can voice their opinion to Naddic just like we can voice our opinion to eme but if Naddic doesn't budge, they can't do shit no matter how much people want it. I'll admit though, it's becoming blatantly obvious that Naddic doesn't really care for the other servers, just Korea, which is fair, that's their target audience.
Secondly: I'm seeing people talking about free awakened Tia? Yes it was free..the second time it came out and you had to grind about 5k dungeons in 1 week to get it, a lot of people burned out getting it. If you want to experience that too that's fine.
Thirdly: Free 14? That came because the server (Korea's) is pretty old, I would personally not expect one for free for a while considering how "young" our server is.
Lastly: People going on about the game dying but if you look at Japan that's been around way longer than NA (NA / EU released in late 2017 while JP's been around since 2016), releases at a way slower pace..They don't even have Bai SA yet and have had Bai since July 18th 2019.
EDIT: Gonna go out and say I ain't defending eme with the above post, just arguing to show people perspective.. Feel free to counter-argue anything.
Enmasse CAN do something. the feedbacks can change the game, how naddic gives patches to us and when we get them. an easy example is fatigue, every other closers server has is except closers world. it was removed because alot of people complained about it
Now I dont know about if it's 5k 1k or 3k dungeons in one week or not but dont you think having it would be nice, even a chance to obtain it from an event like kr gave its players a chance, wouldnt that be nice? I'd take the 5K runs any day instead of not getting anything
It's true that Closers korea is older than our server but closers korea had the best event rewards, a nice patch time and everything. Closers world just recently started to give us "good" rewards, (well, they are not good enough tbh as you can see from so many people complaining about it) and our patch time just keeps getting slower. we are another month behind Korea right now.
Every closers server and their playerbase is different. our playerbase wants the faster patches, closers japanese might not have wanted that. Here is how every server is different from eachother
Korea : Developer Server, +17 and newest stuff, always gets the stuff first
China : +25 on Gear
World : No Fatigue
Japan : minimum 10 malek crystals per malek box, low speed patches as you said
Naddic does take feedback from their publishers and release patches for them. they did it for every server, you can see the server differences there, Enmasse needs to read this thread, have an idea of what the playerbase wants and then ask for patches from naddic.
Re: 11/4/2019 - "Task Force Triaina Rebellion: Nata" Patch Discussion
Time to emigrate to CC, right? Bai bai
Re: 11/4/2019 - "Task Force Triaina Rebellion: Nata" Patch Discussion
As someone who joined the community not too long ago but long enough to see what the community details in unfairness towards it's players base. I can outright say what are you guys doing!? Do you guys have dumb people in marketing or what? You are ignoring your player base which now you have it throughout the entire world. THE ENTIRE WORLD MORE OR LESS IS YOUR PLAYERBASE AND YOU'RE TREATING US LIKE SHIT. It isn't even funny at this point when I see few people appear online, crews die off at a rapid pace, friends moving to other games. Which plenty of other games or other servers are out there that WON'T IGNORE THEIR PLAYERBASE AND TRY TO PLEASE THEM. What is this marketing strategy? Hold off on content until the game is dead? Some of us invested a lot in this game in either time or effort while we could have had another game. Oh yeah speaking of which there are more games out in the world then closers which we CHOOSE TO SPEND TIME WITH EVEN THOUGH YOU GUYS TREAT US LIKE SHIT. It's not even a matter of asking naddic, it's they don't give a shit about this game anymore to help it rise back. People get burned out on the same content WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ADVANCMENTS IN MONTH. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF NADDIC IS IN CHARGE CONVINCE THEM BEFORE NOBODY WANTS TO PLAY. There are Hella better stuff to do online and you guys are on a time limit with a few games that will kill what little support u guys have. Furthermore the income the game has is gonna decrease meaning no big fat checks from us wanting accessories THAT WOULD BECOME OBSOLETE. If you guys don't think we know what sort of changes happen after bb then what the hell. Illogical updates just cause we have a smaller player base. WTF ARE YOU DOING!? I've seen players quit, leave, waiting for something new, wanting future patches from kr come, or just get burned out for naddic to figure out basic game marketing. This isn’t a game trying to please your PLAYERBASE IT'S YOUR JOB AND GUESS WHAT. PLAYERS ARE TIRED AND IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE MONEY FROM THIS GAME THEN AT LEAST GIVE IT TO SOMEOME ELSE WHO WOULD LISTEN! As far as I am concerned there is already a bad rep for this game and in which we foolishly grind away at for you guys to span content out by a year. Don't think we would move and if you're tired of seeing these commemts close the forum. Which won't allow the players to voice and in which case you'll shoot yourself in the foot harder. Note that if you gave bb alongside a signature set and costume set people are waiting for alongside better assist new people, give a little more help in advertising and make reward equal or better to kr and get off your asses to make the game good again then perhaps you can see an increase in players that will keep the game sustainable. Right now at a click of a button or a game releasing and your dead to us. Hell even if no games were to release at some point no one will login cause you guys don't treat us well and we'd migrate elsewhere. Like most of our friends meanwhile you guys would get fired cause of your failure. Let's see what you do naddic let's see cause for certain people wanna quit and leave but you guys aren't making it harder just easier for us to leave.
Re: 11/4/2019 - "Task Force Triaina Rebellion: Nata" Patch Discussion
I think most people will leave game.
because the events in Korea are great.
+14 in terms of gears and gifts.
But EME doesn't care about anyone's opinion or comments.
EME a robot like the patch and patch update note on the forum.
1 year ago, +14 gear is a gift.
in short management sucks.
I've been playing the game since 2017.
I play occasionally, I don't play constantly, Closers.
We know how you killed Eme Kritika..
This game is not too long will be the same.
And now Kritika comes with the owner of the game.
And now I'm waiting for the game Kritika.
I hope that when I return, EME will correct itself.
Otherwise this game will consist of playing for me from time to time.
november 13, this game will die completely.
I hope this doesn't happen, but we're going to see what's going to happen.
Naddic thinks this place is Asian.
but no here Na and Ab.
take care, see you.
Re: 11/4/2019 - "Task Force Triaina Rebellion: Nata" Patch Discussion
@whaehawhat said:
@JadeClosers said:
we havent been given a free +14 booster
we havent been given a free Awakened tiamat at releaseplease give this kid free +14 and awakened tia already.
its really sad this kid has to remind you guys every update.
What's the point of the forum if you can't even voice out your concerns and feedback without whiteknights calling you a kid? Just close the customer service too. If you're tired of seeing people whining giving you an honest opinion just because you don't agree, then just ignore it. You have that option too.
Also, I alreay ran out of patience. In fact, I'm already playing two other games. I just go here to grab the log-in rewards , check the forum for any news and see if there's any free emp in daily deals. That's my routine. A 10-minute routine. Maybe even less. If the login reward doesn't interest me then I don't go online at all. And it's not just me. I've seen crewmates raising the exact same concerns and doing the exact same routine as I do.
