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@PP597W94LA said:
@Hime What I said is not out of the topic.
explains one thing then, what would they gain by announcing the closers being that the community is toxic?

or did you not see the video commentary on the season 3 that the en masse put on youtube? good part of the comments are negative rises game.

What you said (and just did once more in the above post)was off-topic as again, it had nothing to do with the topic of simply advertising the game, which in your view was Server Merge, Bai, and as you dub them "Closet Fanboys". Why does the Serve Merge, Bai, and "Closet Fanboys" taking place equate to the community being toxic, and thus have no reason to advertise the game? People wanting EME to advertise Closers has been requested for a long time now, starting back to midway of OBT - which was long before any of the three factors you've pointed out even existed.

I believe when others agreed with OP that they need to advertise the game, it wasn't via their usual MMO packages giveaways such as MMORPG.com, posting (not advertising) on Facebook and Twitter regarding latest news, and a few Youtube videos, but rather actual advertisements that one would see on the left or right side of their screen. When a company advertises their game, it's because they want to attract players to the game, not because they shouldn't even bother because someone may view their community as "toxic".

As spoken earlier, there are already threads to discuss 2/3 things that you've spoken about. I'm not saying you can't talk about them on the forums, but rather this thread is not the place to discuss them. If you would like to continue your talks there, by all means, go ahead.

I'll say this once more, as I really don't want to close down this topic as I think there's very good points to advertising any game, but in this exact case Closers. However, should off-topic discussion continue then I would have no choice. I will not be asking again.

This is not the thread to discuss those topics. Please do it elsewhere.

I do agree, and have been saying such, that advertising would be good for the game for obvious reasons. I can't recall the last time I've seen advertising on any EME game, including Tera, to which I'm assuming they have their own reasons for. It's something I'll ask and hopefully some change can come out of it.

That being said, please try not to go off-topic in this thread. OP's thread was to talk about advertising the game and that alone. If you would like to discuss other topics that others have said already(Server Merge & Bai), you may do so in threads that were already created on this topic.

This is not the thread to discuss those topics. Please do it elsewhere.

looks like this is "slowly" becoming into another "boo hoo, eme doesnt relese Bai, me and milions of people dont play your game because you ignore us and delay bai release" type of post

@RCmachine said:
There is no discussion to be had about this
JUST FUCKING DO IT

Agree, they should probably do some event partnering some trustworthy mmo website.

@Icywizard

Have to say that I agree with you to some degree, specially the whole "Closet fan boy" thing.
I remember the whole Bai drama and some people was being really aggressive towards the players that want Bai, and this for not reason at all. Also the whole Europe merge probably did actually more damage than help.

However, I don't agree when you and @PP597W94LA said that advertising is useless. The problem is not advertising itself, it is more that pretty much all mmo publishers believe that making a facebook page and a twitter account will get them a ton of players while saving money, so they usually go that route instead of doing real advertising. True is that facebook is kind of useless for advertising since people who is really active on facebook will not really use their time in some niche grindy mmo. They are usually normies who are addcit to selfies, posting, giving likes and that kind of stuff . While the ones that play and already have facebook, well, they already play so, not need to see ads.

Something like twitter can actually be worse as advertising, since it can literally kill an entire company/game due twitter being more a political platform than a gaming one. If a product becomes popular in twitter, it will inevitably catch the attention of political activist that will immediately start to complain about "controversies" of any kind. 2 things may happen in that case:

a) The company give in to the activist complains and end up enraging a huge amount of their fanbase, therefore losing lots of costumers and money.
b) Company Ignore the activists in order to keep their costumers. This enrage said activists who will start some sort of hate campaign against the company destroying its reputation. If the company is something really big this does not matter too much, but if it is something small, like many western mmo publishers, I would dare to say that using twitter is extremly dangerous.

Now the point is that good advertising on places where people who actually like this kind of games, may bring some new players.

Maybe what you are saying about being too late for advertising it is true too some degree. I mean if the numbers are so small as it is stated on this thread, those are bad news. Still, I feel that they should try to do some advertising in sites that are somehow appealing to the people that play this kind of game.

What would that mean?: Other anime mmo players and otakus/anime fans in general. Not saying that is gonna bring thousands of players, but some cheap banner on a mmo news websites and other at some anime related websites may actually bring more player than twitter which if full of political activist and facebook which is full of normies who don't care about this kind of games. Even if a few of those new players spend money, it is usually enough to recover what the publisher used for advertising.

Sadly as I said before, almost all mmo publishers will try to go the cheap route and ignore anything that would mean spending a bit of money, this even if it mean a long time investment that could make them earn a lot more money in the future.

Just look at companies like PWE: completly ignores the playerbase, fired almost all their employees, using one cm for multiple games, using a few gms for multiple games, zero forum presence, almost zero glitch fixing, 100000% pay to win, zero advertising.
Result: They shot down almost all their games in little more than a year when they went the extremely cheap route.

Not saying that is the same with eme, but I can't deny that how dead the game looks this days is worrying.

From the top of my head

Skipping the "monuments" can be done with:

Seha: Down Dash, Sky Slash (hard to time) and Up Dash (hard to time)
Yuri: Overhead Barrage, FM1, FM4 (hard to time)
J: Body Massage (locked skill)
Tein: Release*, EX Mjoln, FM4, Blue Lance*
Nata: EX Torrent, both held and instant
Levia: Awakened Tail Whip, Waltz (both enhanced and normal version, normal version is significantly harder to time but they are both hard to time), Signet (as mentioned before)
Harpy: Interlude Squall, FM3 (hard to time)
Tina: Pot Shot, EX Sharpshooting, Cool your head* (locked skill)
Violet: Exceed auto attacks, FM4, stinger (hard to time), exceed pulse (hard to time)
Wolfgang: Exsaguinate (locked skill), EX Breaking fist (hard to time), FM4
Luna: EX Winter triangle, Hydra, Homing Aegis*, FM4*
Soma: Skanda, Two moons

the * = unsure if it actually works

You can also skip the monuments by auto attack spamming in the air

As for skipping Yod the ones i know about are:

Yuri: Overhead Barrage (jump and quickly use it, you need to be lower than the height it usually puts you for it to work)
J: Body Massage
Levia: Tail whip + Signet (for consistency)
Tina: Potshot
Violet: FM4 (the first slash can skip it but its really hard to time, unsure if second slash is able to skip yod)
WG: Exsanguinate
Luna: Hydra
Soma: Awakened skanda