No 100% way to buy a Cybernatic pack it sucks!

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  • Still gotta remember this is a 2000 emp lootbox, and sense they dont show the percent chance of the items your gonna get you can expect all the cybernetic stuff to most likely have a lower than 5% chance. That's worse than some of slot machines of casinos I worked in. 20$ pull for such a low chance this obviously wasn't made for the majority of players it was meant for whales.

  • @MomoDaaku said:

    @Wonho said:
    Last thing I'll say is the only reason you can't buy any rare set SoD, Cyber is because It's a rare set not item shop set.
    People are gonna have a bad time playing this game if every time something is in gacha/RNG they cobmust, and don't worry about me asking "why"

    That's why they could just make it RARE = 150$ Founder's Pack (with some additional stuff) or 250$ EMP load.. Instead of 20$ Item Shop or 75$ Collector's Pack (Nightmare).

    this! is actually an amazing argument and i do fully support that

  • @Wonho said:

    Last thing I'll say is the only reason you can't buy any rare set SoD, Cyber is because It's a rare set not item shop set.
    People are gonna have a bad time playing this game if every time something is in gacha/RNG they cobmust, and don't worry about me asking "why"

    No, that's wrong. It's not the only reason. In fact, it's not the reason for tying them to gambling at all. But alright, let's pretend it is, for the sake of argument.

    Do you really think that they become less rare if, let's say, they sold them for $150 in a one-time purchase per account only deal? Do you really think that big chunck of player base would be able to afford them for that price, to the point where they become just your usuall costume set rarity-vise? Do you really think that 100-$150 for an in-game costume not enough price to maintain their "premium" status? If so — congrats, you are delusional. In reality, it will be just another, very limited, option to get those sets, without gambling and destroying the market.

    But sure, let's pretend that rng-gamble-bullshit is the only way for EME to maintain rarity of an item.I heard it worked out very well for other eastern MMOs in the west market! Oh wait

  • YoburiYoburi Member

    LoL i having fun reading some En masses WhiteKinghts defending this bullshit RNG loot BOX, these days days the gaming industry is pusing players more and more to see how much they can cash.

    I don't get why defend this shit it happend in the past the so call RARE costumes for sale on a pack and you count't sell on the market so if anyone says it will break the market or it can't be sold in any other way just forgot the ACE pack.

    En Masses you fuck up the old RNG loot box with DC was a pity but some players liked but this one is just nonsense with so many players that want to give you money for this costume you put on a loot box the costume you just lost a huge group of people that would pay the same price of the ACE pack to get these.

    But whatever even if takes 3 or 4 months i will have my 10 set Cyber and won't spend a single penny for it because thats what en masses want.

  • @Yoburi said:
    LoL i having fun reading some En masses WhiteKinghts defending this bullshit RNG loot BOX, these days days the gaming industry is pusing players more and more to see how much they can cash.

    I don't get why defend this shit it happend in the past the so call RARE costumes for sale on a pack and you count't sell on the market so if anyone says it will break the market or it can't be sold in any other way just forgot the ACE pack.

    En Masses you fuck up the old RNG loot box with DC was a pity but some players liked but this one is just nonsense with so many players that want to give you money for this costume you put on a loot box the costume you just lost a huge group of people that would pay the same price of the ACE pack to get these.

    But whatever even if takes 3 or 4 months i will have my 10 set Cyber and won't spend a single penny for it because thats what en masses want.

    I agree with you. They can make it like DE with Warframe, when new Prime frame comes(Exaggerating a bit, but still).
    I'll buy something like this(Cybernetics, i mean) even if it was 150$. But okay, i just need to farm a few months to get the full set. And a few months more for Wolfgang.

    Seriously, THIS is very Random-based gambling. Though, i'm fine with it too, because, if you F2P player, you still can get costumes(it tooks a lot of time and money if you buy it from BM, or even MORE time and money if you use fiber). Also i'm still wondering: Does costumes from EMP obtainable through Fibers?

  • @Nathaniel697 said:

    Seriously, THIS is very Random-based gambling. Though, i'm fine with it too, because, if you F2P player, you still can get costumes(it tooks a lot of time and money if you buy it from BM, or even MORE time and money if you use fiber). Also i'm still wondering: Does costumes from EMP obtainable through Fibers?

    not even gonna bother with the first part since I never played Warframe so I don't understand what you meant there...
    as an F2P player yeah, getting the costume is just a grindy thing, whether you grind for Fibers for Synchro fibering your pieces or grind for credits so you can buy it from BM, you can do it without spending any real money.... just time and more time...

    for the Costumes from EMP thing... I think it does? like, if the Synchro fails, you get a random EMP costume that's based on the Base Item you used.

    I.E., a weapon for a weapon, etc.

  • WonhoWonho Member

    lol

  • mistressjmistressj Member
    edited July 2018

    People here DO realize this is LIKELY from naddic right and not one of the things enmasse can change? En masse might not be able to much about this besides report backlash to naddic to give us more special treatment. Although I could be completely wrong

  • @mistressj said:
    People here DO realize this is LIKELY from naddic right and not one of the things enmasse can change? En masse might not be able to much about this besides report backlash to naddic to give us more special treatment. Although I could be completely wrong

    The Naddic Games make the game, EME is just a publisher. But FTG removal makes by EME, so they have a little(or maybe more) bit of influence. So they CAN change it. I don't blame them for make it the way THEY want it, though.

  • mistressjmistressj Member
    edited July 2018

    @Nathaniel697 said:

    @mistressj said:
    People here DO realize this is LIKELY from naddic right and not one of the things enmasse can change? En masse might not be able to much about this besides report backlash to naddic to give us more special treatment. Although I could be completely wrong

    The Naddic Games make the game, EME is just a publisher. But FTG removal makes by EME, so they have a little(or maybe more) bit of influence. So they CAN change it. I don't blame them for make it the way THEY want it, though.

    Yeah I know that naddic is dev and makes the stuff and eme just publishes it but yeah with the chars being released in a diff order and removal of ftg does show SOME influence... but just how much? Who knows.
    Just reading half these posts just pissed me off is all. Seems it's a blame en masse if they don't like it when they should blame naddic instead -shrugs- just my 2 cents

  • NADDIC is the maker and publisher of Closers and KR Closers respectively, EME has power on what they want to do with NA/EU Closers on most things, for example, the characters they release, when they want to release them among other things.

  • @ArunoSesugawa said:
    NADDIC is the maker and publisher of Closers and KR Closers respectively, EME has power on what they want to do with NA/EU Closers on most things, for example, the characters they release, when they want to release them among other things.

    BUT the whole cash shop bit is a whole nother monster in itself

  • @mistressj said:

    @ArunoSesugawa said:
    NADDIC is the maker and publisher of Closers and KR Closers respectively, EME has power on what they want to do with NA/EU Closers on most things, for example, the characters they release, when they want to release them among other things.

    BUT the whole cash shop bit is a whole nother monster in itself

    Yeah... It is... and so was fatigue but look what happened.... well more or less, it really doesn't matter much to me anymore. Whatever happens, happens at this point.

  • @Melonchan said:
    I would rather pay 150 USD for cybernetics full set tbh instead of those boxes, HOPE EME LISTEN TO US AND THEY PUT A FULL PACKAGE :v

    a pipe-dream

  • @FoSizzle said:

    @Melonchan said:
    I would rather pay 150 USD for cybernetics full set tbh instead of those boxes, HOPE EME LISTEN TO US AND THEY PUT A FULL PACKAGE :v

    a pipe-dream

    Who knows dude, people said "removing fatigue wont ever happen" a year ago and look where we are now, can't really say for sure what will happen especially with EME in charge.

  • @ArunoSesugawa said:

    @FoSizzle said:

    @Melonchan said:
    I would rather pay 150 USD for cybernetics full set tbh instead of those boxes, HOPE EME LISTEN TO US AND THEY PUT A FULL PACKAGE :v

    a pipe-dream

    Who knows dude, people said "removing fatigue wont ever happen" # less than a year ago and look where we are now, can't really say for sure what will happen especially with EME in charge.

    Fix it for you

  • I play since Alpha, but start to spend more time after Harpy-chan's release.
    And the people starts to cry about fatigue, i think, after release in steam.
    Maybe if steam users start to cry about RNG-based BOXES, the EME change this system too? Cause the real feedback it's from steam and newbies more probably

  • SOD had a straight up purchase when it first released granted you had to get a package deal with other things that were good for the amount they wanted.
    This is nothing more than a cash grab.

  • @Andsoitis said:
    SOD had a straight up purchase when it first released granted you had to get a package deal with other things that were good for the amount they wanted.
    This is nothing more than a cash grab.

    I don't understand:
    Are you talking about the "SoD purchase was bad" or "The current Cybernetics RNG purchase is bad"?

  • @Nathaniel697 said:

    @Andsoitis said:
    SOD had a straight up purchase when it first released granted you had to get a package deal with other things that were good for the amount they wanted.
    This is nothing more than a cash grab.

    I don't understand:
    Are you talking about the "SoD purchase was bad" or "The current Cybernetics RNG purchase is bad"?

    He meant for the Gacha boxes

  • HailsHails Member

    @Melonchan said:
    I would rather pay 150 USD for cybernetics full set tbh instead of those boxes, HOPE EME LISTEN TO US AND THEY PUT A FULL PACKAGE :v

    Or you could just be like everyone else and wait until the 31st and just craft the stupid set.

    Also, why on earth would you rather pay that much when crafting the 6/6 and buying the accessories from the BM can easily be done in less than $100. It sounds like most of the people who want instant purchase Dark Command/Cybernetics are just being really really lazy and would rather pay 2-3x the amount of money for something not actually worth that much money. lol

    This is literally the mindset of a lazy whale.

    As for the boxes, most of the people complaining here are being very stupid about it. Everyone knows the Mega Boxes are scams. Only whales buy these. No one actually cares if they put cybernetics in them and you shouldn't act like this is the go-to way to get the rare costume set when it's not.

    Then best thing Enmasse could do about these is make them $10-13 instead of $20 because then at least it wouldn't be a scam if you got the worst items.

    @Orenglaive said:
    If nothing else, I just hate that that the accessories are so hard to get.
    You either pay a fortune irl or you pay a fortune in game.

    Since when is $50 of emp shop item selling or $25-35 of daily deal bundled item selling for credits a fortune. That's like the price of a Video Game + a potential a few trips to McDonalds. lol

    Unless you're refering to trying to gacha all 4 of your own accessories. But who actually does that? lol...

  • MuSicsMuSics Member

    they listed previously the rates (approx and very sketchy)

    30% of the good tier (including wings,cyber stuff)

    70% doodoo

    if anyone is curious

    please note the variable rates within group is key and chances are even if you get lucky you may not get the wings/cyber stuff

    (not to brag but i bought 1 box and got the cyber set) :3

  • @Hails said:
    Unless you're refering to trying to gacha all 4 of your own accessories. But who actually does that? lol...

    You'd be surprised at the number of whales I know who'd do that lol

  • Lexy6Lexy6 Member

    some people just like to gamble in games

  • @Nathaniel697 said:

    @mistressj said:
    People here DO realize this is LIKELY from naddic right and not one of the things enmasse can change? En masse might not be able to much about this besides report backlash to naddic to give us more special treatment. Although I could be completely wrong

    The Naddic Games make the game, EME is just a publisher. But FTG removal makes by EME, so they have a little(or maybe more) bit of influence. So they CAN change it. I don't blame them for make it the way THEY want it, though.

    This is correct. I've played multiple games of different server and the publisher themselves can and is able to directly influence the outcome of the game. Take for example, Granado Espada. The japanese server has been changed into a totally different server that includes its own cash shop,own event, own set of character, implementing a whole lot of new things whereas the korean (the developer), international server etc can't even compete with it. They have been doing it for so long, they even the korean server starts to take ideas from the japanese server and implementing it to their own.

    Whereas, the international server simply just takes whatever the korean server has and slowly implementing it to their own without much changes. This is purely how much effort does the publisher wants to put in the effort to keep the player database strong.
    If a publisher purely aims to only squeeze as much money as they could with the least amount of effort, they would clearly just take and paste, do some translation and publish it. Not that much effort, as compared to coming out with own original stuff that could help out with the entire player base.

  • eme releases 150$ then the p2w post will blow up lol. Something new for people to complain about.

  • @Natorious said:
    eme releases 150$ then the p2w post will blow up lol. Something new for people to complain about.

    there's a saying "everyone's a critic" seems correct if you think about it.

  • FairlySeeUFairlySeeU Member
    edited July 2018

    I want EME to make a bundle like the Ace Bundle for SoD but for Cybernetic. That way ppl can get what they want without getting screwed over by RNG. I hate the fact that EME only give whales the best stuff and everyone else shit. Not only that but EME sucks at actually give heads up warnings of upcoming sales and stuff like that. No wonder ppl are getting angry. I would be more than welcome to pay 200$ for a full Cybernetic Bundle. The games RNG is already garbage.

  • Wait a few months more. If peoples keep saying that i'll pay xxx$ for a full, then maybe, when the price come to 300-500$, EME can say "Thanks to you feedback, we'll adding a ONEDAY EVENT OF FULL PERMANENT CYBERNETICS SET in shop", or something like this.
    P.S. Hope that this won't happen.

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