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Brawler and Agro U.U

Deleted UserDeleted User
in TERA PC - General Discussion
Its just me or this patch its more difficult to manage agro with brawler?
(Example: so I was running ssnm to help my friend get a cest and at the second boss archer with +15 imperator got agrom from me , i was like wtf i was in GF + ambush +15 do my rotation as usually O.o so what the.....
This happend sometimes too in RMHM 1 and 3 boss especially from 100-95%. Im dont talk even about the reset agro when somebody die >:) )
Sorry my bad english o:)
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  • Kira98Kira98 ✭✭✭
    It happens because the Brawlers are accustomed to being "DPS" and not "Tanks" ....
    I hate going to an Instance and meeting a Brawler like that. I prefer Lancer.
  • MelyodisMelyodis ✭✭✭
    edited December 2016
    that happend cause someone died im sure. when someone dies agro resets its happend to in full agro build bbut theres a chnace that the archer did crit so high that he can pull agro from you.
  • JinChunJinChun ✭
    edited December 2016
    Unfortunately, it's sorta dps race when tanking as a brawler, all of your skills are without aggro glyph.
    When boss enraged, crit brooch & dragon crit proc, the damage spike from revamp archer and sorcerer can easily race to the top.
    Just be mindful when boss enraged & how you gonna use your infuriate.
  • HecateNyxHecateNyx ✭✭
    this is how tanking USED to be, before brawlers and their crazy dps. LEARN YOUR CLASS, LEARN HOW TO TANK, don't be so lazy.
  • Deleted UserDeleted User
    edited December 2016
    Dude @HecateNyx calm down i was main lancer , just asking dont be jealouse of brawler :anguished:
    "This is how tanking WAS"
  • Deleted UserDeleted User
    edited December 2016
    I have the same problem, if some archer do a big crit (like 17M thunderbolt), I lose aggro even if I am top dps from the party and in GF.
  • FelhammerFelhammer ✭✭✭
    edited December 2016
    If you have issues holding aggro as a brawler then you really haven't learned anything during your levelling process at all. I should consider doing an entire forum post about how Growing fury means nothing right now since bosses don't hit back fast enough to make it worth it. My opinion though tbh.

    Anyway if you're struggling with brawler hit me up I'll drop whatever I can to assist you.

    Just for some insight for me.

    What's you're crit factor in total?

    Screenshot your glyph setup and show me.

    Are you using a Threatening / Wrathful / Focused / Pounding setup?
  • SylvietteSylviette ✭✭✭
    Archer has insanely high burst right off the bat (TB > RF > fast charge RA...), and you only have 5s max aggro from shout to GF, debuff and do enough dmg to out aggro them. It's harder on some bosses like 2nd boss ss (punching bag, he won't attack you frequently enough), 3rd boss rm (you have to watch out for the tail slam).
  • MontblanckMontblanck ✭✭✭
    I was wondering the same thing. Pre-Sorc and Archer patch, I could hold aggro no problem on SSHM - even with a Ninja going insane with Fire Avalanche on brooch when enraged with all the food there is. Nowadays it's kind of complicated with those two in party. Not sure what they both have in them - I've been with parties of two Ninjas and I could completely hold off them; but with a Sorc and an Archer in a party it just bounces off every now and then. Just those two.

    It's not that I do bad dps, and it's not random deaths either - sometimes I am second or first depending on boss even - but at times it really just goes haywire. This only happens on Brawler and I'm not sure why. This complicates stuff a bit for like especially RMHM last boss because when she does her hand slams, she turns a lot. I've seen Lancers do half my damage and hold aggro off these two classes - like what the hell is going on? What happened to my Brawler?

    Not sure if they nerfed Brawler to dust on aggro generation, or if they really did buff Sorcs and Archers to point of broken.
  • dinnersdinners ✭✭✭
    I think, it's archer and sorc burst crit damage in short time.

    tbh, sorc and archer are way too strong atm. +12 guile archer/ sorc is about same as +15 imp of melee dps.
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    SSNM and SSHM 2nd boss have issues. In HM if you die you can't get aggro back, due to combat glitch and NM tanks don't seem to generate their normal aggro. Even when the tank is winning in dps they could still not be holding aggro, not even using the shouts seem to work there either. That boss is the only fight where I see it happen.

    As for other bosses from 100~95%, that's mostly due to dps bursting right away, something Brawler can't do. If you use shout, the few seconds of guaranteed aggro is supposed to be enough for you to get ahead of them in terms of threat even if it's an OP Ninja.
  • LesbianViLesbianVi ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like tanking, War, Brawler, Lancer, Zerk. I do brawler, friendlier with my +250 MS ping. I couldn't hold aggro at start specially with Slaughter if running with higher ilvl dps party members, When got my Guile Weap, I focused on Crit, Heavy DPS, no threatening crystals. also I barely block unless it is a heavy attacks by bosses, DPS and DPS and I barely lose aggro.
  • MinazukiMinazuki ✭✭✭
    Tanking was never hard so I don't know why some people sound it was hard...
    If you sound it was hard... you might probably need to learn the class and how to tank = =
    As someone mention if DPS do a crit burst in a short time... tank going cry... I used like doing it to tease some tanks... /run
  • ObsObs ✭✭✭
    Fire Avalanche has reduced aggro gen. Mana Boost and RoA + TB + RA don't.
  • voidyvoidy ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2016
    Sylviette wrote: »
    Archer has insanely high burst right off the bat (TB > RF > fast charge RA...), and you only have 5s max aggro from shout to GF, debuff and do enough dmg to out aggro them. It's harder on some bosses like 2nd boss ss (punching bag, he won't attack you frequently enough), 3rd boss rm (you have to watch out for the tail slam).

    This is so true. Archers, stop using TB right at the start and then wondering why you ripped aggro before the tank could even get a few hits in. I know you're pumped because you just popped every buff in your arsenal, but using your *strongest attack* before I can even begin to generate threat just wastes everyone else's buffs and kills yours too since you're too busy kiting the boss to do anything else. This is like basic [filtered]; don't open with your strongest attacks when the tank's barely hit the boss. Yet every other archer tries to do this. It's not bad in most places, but in places like RM especially the second boss, it's really bad when you go into the corner by an egg, fire off a TB, and then send the boss right into the corner and it eats an egg. Do literally anything else but TB. Not even sorcs are this bad about it. Can't wait for the nerfs.
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