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Concerning the Inventory Expansion account service

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  • MeningitisMeningitis ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2017
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Also, summoning your pet, or having to go to the bank for stuff you use on a character, is an inconvenience. Additional inventory is nothing but a convenience/luxury item, and with many convenient things, they come at a price.

    I guess paying $5 for 8 extra slots of inventory is great for players who are too lazy to literally click 2 buttons to open a pet pocket. I'm glad it's worth it to them.

    It's a luxury item but it still feels a bit high priced for what it is when you compare it to a pet pocket that's 2 button clicks away.
    Whether that's actually worth it or not is up to the individual I suppose.

  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2017
    Meningitis wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Also, summoning your pet, or having to go to the bank for stuff you use on a character, is an inconvenience. Additional inventory is nothing but a convenience/luxury item, and with many convenient things, they come at a price.

    I guess paying $5 for 8 extra slots of inventory is great for players who are too lazy to literally click 2 buttons to open a pet pocket. I'm glad it's worth it to them.

    It's a luxury item but it still feels a bit high priced for what it is when you compare it to a pet pocket that's 2 button clicks away.
    What happens when your pet is full? You're also not answering the question of, if you don't need it at the current price, why would you suddenly need it if they gave it out for a low price? If stacking pets are enough then there is no real concern here.

    If you don't need it, or don't see the value in it, don't buy it. If there's a lack of sales they'll eventually adjust the pricing to sell more. They're more likely to respond if that sort of thing happens.

    I personally am more concerned they didn't allow you to go beyond 120, would have figured they would have adjusted the inventory system a bit to justify selling more of them.
  • KetothKetoth ✭✭✭✭
    I bought because i didnt want see locked rows in my inventory.
  • MeningitisMeningitis ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2017
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    What happens when your pet is full? You're also not answering the question of, if you don't need it at the current price, why would you suddenly need it if they gave it out for a low price? If stacking pets are enough then there is no real concern here.

    If you don't need it, or don't see the value in it, don't buy it. If there's a lack of sales they'll eventually adjust the pricing to sell more. They're more likely to respond if that sort of thing happens.
    My answer to "if you don't need it now why would you need it at a lower price": If I did need it, I'd be angry that 8 slots costs as much as a bank tab. I would feel ripped off. But for me, personally, I don't need it, but I would like to have it as a luxury item. I'm just not going to buy it because having 8 slots cost as much as a bank tab feels ridiculous to me. I never said they were forcing me to buy it, like we both agree on: it's a luxury item. I wanted to hear other people's thoughts on the subject to see if other players felt it was worth the money.
    Ketoth wrote: »
    I bought because i didnt want see locked rows in my inventory.
    ^ This is why I would want to buy extra inventory the most, to be brutally honest. It feels just..wrong to see those little locks doesn't it? :anguished:
  • I've had max possible inventory on my main and a couple alts for a very long time now, and I still felt like I needed more space. I have maxed out pet slots and bank slots as well.
    I did think it was a bit overpriced, but you know, everything feels overpriced nowdays due to emp rates to gold anyways (I know you ment the base pricing of emp compared to a bank tab, but if you have no more tabs to buy, you buy this I guess), so I bought it even if I felt a bit riped off :c!
    Is simple, if you really want something, you buy it even if overpriced.
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2017
    Meningitis wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    What happens when your pet is full? You're also not answering the question of, if you don't need it at the current price, why would you suddenly need it if they gave it out for a low price? If stacking pets are enough then there is no real concern here.

    If you don't need it, or don't see the value in it, don't buy it. If there's a lack of sales they'll eventually adjust the pricing to sell more. They're more likely to respond if that sort of thing happens.
    My answer to "if you don't need it now why would you need it at a lower price": If I did need it, I'd be angry that 8 slots costs as much as a bank tab. I would feel ripped off. But for me, personally, I don't need it, but I would like to have it as a luxury item. I'm just not going to buy it because having 8 slots cost as much as a bank tab feels ridiculous to me. I never said they were forcing me to buy it, like we both agree on: it's a luxury item. I wanted to hear other people's thoughts on the subject to see if other players felt it was worth the money.
    Ketoth wrote: »
    I bought because i didnt want see locked rows in my inventory.
    ^ This is why I would want to buy extra inventory the most, to be brutally honest. It feels just..wrong to see those little locks doesn't it? :anguished:

    Your bank is shared with up to 16 characters. Each tab is basically 4.5 slots per character. Bank slots are only cheaper if you don't have many alts or the bank is used for mostly character shared resources like feedstock and crafting materials. Keep in mind, the 1 free tab you get (2 if you used buddy-up) is enough to store most resources/crafting mats anyways. Although, the bank doesn't follow you around and has other limitations. At that point you only have pets as an arguments (since they at least follow you), but there's only two you can out right buy, 15$ per 72 slots. You're only paying about 30 cents more per slot for the convenience of extra inventory, which isn't really a whole a lot. Pets are about .20 per slot with the inventory expansions being about .50 per slot. Pets also come with limitations, as not all items can be stored in them and you need to spend 1 slot to have food for them meaning the first pet is only getting you 71 slots, while the inventory doesn't have either of these problems. For other things you pay more than .30 per unit for convenience tax.

    The 3 pack would have to cost about ~5$ to be equal in price per slot if there was no convenience tax relative to that of the pet tabs, meaning you're only paying ~7$ for the convenience tax. You not only pay more than ~7$ in convenience tax elsewhere in the world but you do so for things that only last a few seconds, where as in the case of inventory it is something that lasts until the game shuts down, or you quit; which both cases are longer than any other scenario where you are paying for convenience.

    At that point, the only matter is, do you find the additional inventory useful, or not; and can you afford it.
  • AyiAyi ✭✭✭
    Don't like it, don't buy it. I'm enjoying 120 inventory slots.
  • Elinu1Elinu1 Canada ✭✭✭✭
    They are going for 20k on TR. Hell no that's way too expensive for 8 slots
  • Idi0ticGeniusIdi0ticGenius ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2017
    I don't know what the problem is with buying inventory slot expansion. It's not like the game punishes you for not having those 2 rows-- it's only a luxury to have more free space on the character. If you're good at managing space, you can live off with just one or two 72-slot bank tab and 104 slot inventory. Storage management is really easy if you just take time to organize items. I have 8 bank tabs, 13 characters, 1 character with 4 pet bank, 2 characters with just 1 pet bank, and it only took me an hour or so to plan which items would go where, and move all the stuff around.

    In KTERA, those 2 locked rows were only obtainable as Internet Cafe (PC Bang) exclusive accumulated time bonus tokens, where the number of tokens required and methods of getting them varied time to time. They also had few events that made it accessible in-game without such perk, but it was tedious grind iirc. KTERA introduced this in their cash shop not too long ago, and I don't recall seeing complaints on their end, so I don't know why this "issue" needs such awareness.
    Though, I'm not sure if NA had such event similar to KTERA since I started playing a month before FoA patch.

    I bought them cheap with gold, almost half price compared to the average sale, but I wouldn't be complaining even if I paid with cash as they aren't too expensive considering some other games only unlock 4 slots with similar price, or even worse, 4 bank slots at same price.

    But really, having those two extra rows are nice. Now I carry 800 HP/MP potions instead of 400, which tends to run out quite fast as i have to chug down MP potions. Then again, I filled an entire pet bank tab with Potions and other consumables too.
  • But really, having those two extra rows are nice. Now I carry 800 HP/MP potions instead of 400, which tends to run out quite fast as i have to chug down MP potions. Then again, I filled an entire pet bank tab with Potions and other consumables too.
    Is the upcoming circlet proc rate high enough to fix Lancer MP woes?
  • kamizumakamizuma ✭✭✭✭
    don't like it don't buy it
  • EndevaEndeva ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Ginjitsu wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Meningitis wrote: »
    @Eishaa I get your point, since i hoard lots of things and keep a nearly full bag myself, but why would you pay so much for 24 slots when you could carry around everything in a pocket pet that is also a lot cheaper per storage slot and still portable inventory?

    What are you basing the price being too high on? That's a normal price compared to other Korean games, and even lower than a lot of other options as well. It's even lower than those others when you consider Tera doesn't have as many unnecessary items that take up space compared to other games where you're always forced to have upgraded inventory even if you aren't a hoarder.

    Totes gives 72 slots of inventory space and inventory expansion only gives 8 slots...

    A pet limited to 1 per character, I don't see your point. I have an account totes, max bank slots, multiple felicities, an alt guild bank, extra characters specifically to hold stuff, and a full wardrobe. If it's useless to you at 5$ then why does the price matter? At this point you're complaining it's not basically free.
    Meningitis wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    What are you basing the price being too high on? That's a normal price compared to other Korean games, and even lower than a lot of other options as well. It's even lower than those others when you consider Tera doesn't have as many unnecessary items that take up space compared to other games where you're always forced to have upgraded inventory even if you aren't a hoarder.
    I'm not considering other games, I'm considering the prices that TERA, and this specific version of TERA has in place for other forms of storage for a radically lower price. I don't care about other games, I'm not playing those. It just doesn't make sense to me that a 72 slot of storage coupon costs as much as an 8 slot of storage coupon in the same game in the same region. The only difference to me is that it's portable storage, but even pocket pets costs a lot less money per slot of storage.

    Mostly for people who have all that. If you weren't going to need it at the current price, you weren't going to need it at a lower price.

    Also, summoning your pet, or having to go to the bank for stuff you use on a character, is an inconvenience. Additional inventory is nothing but a convenience/luxury item, and with many convenient things, they come at a price.

    If you don't see my point, then try reading again until you see it.
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ginjitsu wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Ginjitsu wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Meningitis wrote: »
    @Eishaa I get your point, since i hoard lots of things and keep a nearly full bag myself, but why would you pay so much for 24 slots when you could carry around everything in a pocket pet that is also a lot cheaper per storage slot and still portable inventory?

    What are you basing the price being too high on? That's a normal price compared to other Korean games, and even lower than a lot of other options as well. It's even lower than those others when you consider Tera doesn't have as many unnecessary items that take up space compared to other games where you're always forced to have upgraded inventory even if you aren't a hoarder.

    Totes gives 72 slots of inventory space and inventory expansion only gives 8 slots...

    A pet limited to 1 per character, I don't see your point. I have an account totes, max bank slots, multiple felicities, an alt guild bank, extra characters specifically to hold stuff, and a full wardrobe. If it's useless to you at 5$ then why does the price matter? At this point you're complaining it's not basically free.
    Meningitis wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    What are you basing the price being too high on? That's a normal price compared to other Korean games, and even lower than a lot of other options as well. It's even lower than those others when you consider Tera doesn't have as many unnecessary items that take up space compared to other games where you're always forced to have upgraded inventory even if you aren't a hoarder.
    I'm not considering other games, I'm considering the prices that TERA, and this specific version of TERA has in place for other forms of storage for a radically lower price. I don't care about other games, I'm not playing those. It just doesn't make sense to me that a 72 slot of storage coupon costs as much as an 8 slot of storage coupon in the same game in the same region. The only difference to me is that it's portable storage, but even pocket pets costs a lot less money per slot of storage.

    Mostly for people who have all that. If you weren't going to need it at the current price, you weren't going to need it at a lower price.

    Also, summoning your pet, or having to go to the bank for stuff you use on a character, is an inconvenience. Additional inventory is nothing but a convenience/luxury item, and with many convenient things, they come at a price.

    If you don't see my point, then try reading again until you see it.

    I don't see it, because there isn't one. You're comparing two things that don't function the same beyond the similarity of storage. Why aren't you complaining about storage pets costing more than bank slots? You can get 72x3 slots for ~12$ while a pet that gives just 72 slots is 15$, or 72x2 for ~25$. Then there's the fact the bank has more convenience in practical situations for general storage.
  • ViennoiserieViennoiserie ✭✭✭
    edited January 2017
    EME, like any other companies, needs to earn extra big bucks for Q1 of 2017 to help ensure they are okay-ish for the rest of the year. Them pulling this "cash grab" stunt off isn't surprising.
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