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Feedstock is still precarious

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  • Roly wrote: »
    And why you don't buy a [filtered] Weapon in 700k and stop crying for nothing? +15 isn't intended to get easily, 700k is nothing, dude trust me i can easily farm like 100k a day if i want..... this game is way easy to make money and Gold is everything.

    "i can easily farm like 100k a day if i want" ....how ?
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ginjitsu wrote: »
    Livaillei wrote: »
    Ray676 wrote: »
    If you have trouble getting feedstock in this patch then you need to uninstall.

    Also you know you can attempt to make money from events as well? Power hour + Selling bonanza boxes/Insanity badges = Insane profits. Maybe just maybe you can buy feedstock from the brokerage with all the money you could be making??????? Teehee.

    I've only been playing on MT for 5 days with 1 character and have +12 guile wep, +12 slaughter everything else, and around 150k gold sitting in my inventory. I didn't sell EMP either. Very easy game to make money on

    you will see when u spent around 980k +++ and ur weapon keep +13...+14, i remember in vm4 patch, I tried the whole patch +15 from start to finish and stayed on +12 ...failed around 4 months

    That's an issue with RNG and not the amount of Feedstock available for players. As long as enchanting relies purely on RNG, there will always be players that spend so much and get no results.

    He wasn't even using a case of bad luck. Even if +15 capped at 50 tries it would still be a problem. The RNG is never going away, but the feedstock problem can be mitigated.
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Ginjitsu wrote: »
    Livaillei wrote: »
    Ray676 wrote: »
    If you have trouble getting feedstock in this patch then you need to uninstall.

    Also you know you can attempt to make money from events as well? Power hour + Selling bonanza boxes/Insanity badges = Insane profits. Maybe just maybe you can buy feedstock from the brokerage with all the money you could be making??????? Teehee.

    I've only been playing on MT for 5 days with 1 character and have +12 guile wep, +12 slaughter everything else, and around 150k gold sitting in my inventory. I didn't sell EMP either. Very easy game to make money on

    you will see when u spent around 980k +++ and ur weapon keep +13...+14, i remember in vm4 patch, I tried the whole patch +15 from start to finish and stayed on +12 ...failed around 4 months

    That's an issue with RNG and not the amount of Feedstock available for players. As long as enchanting relies purely on RNG, there will always be players that spend so much and get no results.

    He could have bought from broker that weapong +15 with etchins.

    I spent more than 2m gold in full +15 imperator just for the "crafting by: & +15" ego, i could bought it for less at broker with etchins but i am not complaining becuase I choose to do things that way.

    But OP is just crying for not choose the right desicion.

    These "alternate" solutions only work because not enough people do it. If everyone just bought +15 gear since it's cheaper there would be no +15 gear to even buy. The same with if everyone just bought FS, there wouldn't be any to buy as well. This applies to some gold making methods as well, their effectiveness only work when not many people are doing what you're doing.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    These "alternate" solutions only work because not enough people do it. If everyone just bought +15 gear since it's cheaper there would be no +15 gear to even buy. The same with if everyone just bought FS, there wouldn't be any to buy as well. This applies to some gold making methods as well, their effectiveness only work when not many people are doing what you're doing.

    My point against OP is becuase he choose to enchant himself his weapon and didn't have the results he wanted.

    So he made the wrong decision and is QQ for something irrelevant and the only thing that is driving him to make this thread is to vent his frustation out, I hope is that the case becuase when I spend those 2m gold I almost cry but seeing full +15 got me to my senses and make me realize that I was just feeding my ego and nothing more.
  • kamizumakamizuma ✭✭✭✭
    Dvsv wrote: »
    Remember guys, no more mongos, they will "break the economy" (i.e: rip profits for rich ppl!)
    In fact, mongo was the only viable way for free players to +15 anything with average luck.

    Let's do the math: 30-40 T10 fod per one VG daily reward = 20 T11.
    Let's say 50 tries = 12000 only on T11 fod, so we need 600 daily quest just to +15 one piece of gear!
    So gl, just make 12 alts and burn 12 hr/day of your life on a dead game and by the time you +15 your ambush, it will be just slightly better than mid-tier gear and there will be t12 fod to halve all your fod resources!
    But yeah, game that can't care less about "hard work" shoud be hard!!!!

    do people really still think mongos "breaking the economy" means "rip profits for rich people"? Every single rich person I know has gained (or is currently in the process of gaining) immense long term profits off mongos/mongo-like events.
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    These "alternate" solutions only work because not enough people do it. If everyone just bought +15 gear since it's cheaper there would be no +15 gear to even buy. The same with if everyone just bought FS, there wouldn't be any to buy as well. This applies to some gold making methods as well, their effectiveness only work when not many people are doing what you're doing.

    My point against OP is becuase he choose to enchant himself his weapon and didn't have the results he wanted.

    So he made the wrong decision and is QQ for something irrelevant and the only thing that is driving him to make this thread is to vent his frustation out, I hope is that the case becuase when I spend those 2m gold I almost cry but seeing full +15 got me to my senses and make me realize that I was just feeding my ego and nothing more.

    Not everyone who thinks feedstock has a low supply is doing so out of frustration. In terms of awakening enchant I have only been unlucky once... My 1st weapon took 200 attempts. After that I have +15ed several full sets with each piece taking 10~30 per +15 total. The closest to 50 I got this year was yesterday for my second Lancer's chest taking 40. His example to justify his stance was 50 tries, but considering how possible going over double that is, he's not complaining about even being unlucky.

    Dungeons themselves drop ~15 feedstock for each person excluding VG which only adds another 30~50. Other than that and VG there's no way to just farm the feedstock. They have always had a low supply without events. Although, temporary events are solutions that don't solve the problem, and also means unless you were there for the event you'll have to buy them anyways. I've been there for all the events this year that gave them, so my issue isn't even because I had missed them either.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2017
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Dungeons themselves drop ~15 feedstock for each person excluding VG.

    Are we playing the same game?

    I get 9 feedsstocks per run on HM dungeons or even on NM such LK and SS.
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Dungeons themselves drop ~15 feedstock for each person excluding VG.

    Are we playing the same game?

    I get 9 feedsstocks per run on HM dungeons or even on NM such LK and SS.

    I mean RMHM. I know other dungeons drop less. You get ~5 per boss in RMHM instead of the 3~4 in other instances. Either way, the lower quantity and lower tier for the other instances only really serves to prove his point further.
  • 66ECX7NAN766ECX7NAN7 ✭✭✭✭
    Dhrizzit wrote: »
    66ECX7NAN7 wrote: »
    +15 was never intended to be easy to get.

    imagine if you dont have alts, probabbly you are going to farm for 700 days, and when you choose that day, on use all for enchant it

    gg +12

    So get alts.
  • TrialMacameauTrialMacameau Does it matter ? cuz DDOSing is a crime punishable of Prison ✭✭✭
    edited January 2017
    BHS Should re-add the feedstock from dismantling weapons and stuffs that was our main source of the income of it putting them to 0 for tier 8 to 11 is still a mistake
  • SpacecatsSpacecats ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2017
    Dvsv wrote: »
    Remember guys, no more mongos, they will "break the economy" (i.e: rip profits for rich ppl!)
    In fact, mongo was the only viable way for free players to +15 anything with average luck.

    Let's do the math: 30-40 T10 fod per one VG daily reward = 20 T11.
    Let's say 50 tries = 12000 only on T11 fod, so we need 600 daily quest just to +15 one piece of gear!
    So gl, just make 12 alts and burn 12 hr/day of your life on a dead game and by the time you +15 your ambush, it will be just slightly better than mid-tier gear and there will be t12 fod to halve all your fod resources!
    But yeah, game that can't care less about "hard work" shoud be hard!!!!

    There have only been two Mongo events. The amount of feedstock dropped during Mongo Neon, the second one, was way too high (dead memes) and it will never be that ridiculous again. There are some fun things we can do to make feedstock more widely available and it's really good to see suggestions in the thread. Justed want to call out that Mongo isn't the answer. That doesn't mean no more Mongo. I'm just saying the rewards will be balanced a lot better next time and there are multiple options.
  • either make gear dismantle to feedstock, or make the boss drop = feedcstock to what the gear it drops is worth (boots gloves 24 feed, chest 36, wep 48)
  • Ray676Ray676 ✭✭✭
    Spacecats wrote: »
    There have only been two Mongo events. The amount of feedstock dropped during Mongo Neon, the second one, was way too high (dead memes) and it will never be that ridiculous again. There are some fun things we can do to make feedstock more widely available and it's really good to see suggestions in the thread. Justed want to call out that Mongo isn't the answer. That doesn't mean no more Mongo. I'm just saying the rewards will be balanced a lot better next time and there are multiple options.

    Couldn't you have that event where each boss in dungeons drops extra feedstock? also more double triple drop weekends plox :anguished:
  • iunno why Lach boxes or any new pve boxes give you t9 feedstock............
  • aeee98aeee98 ✭✭✭✭
    Can I be the one guy and say that the feedstock grind is okay assuming that you are only going for midtier.

    For VM, it is definitely not enough rofl.
  • Enmasse should put feedstock boxes in vanguard merchant thats all.
    IS this sooooo HARD? :confused: ?
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