TERA Theorycraft Compilation

Ketoth

Here is guide i am working about dps theorycrafting. I accept any sugestion

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kLGN3sPUAaws5s0ECHG8j15fr1Nv5W9NzPMBzT0y-fM/edit?usp=drive_web


And its possible to comment the doc if you found any error

Ketoth

xEmptiness wrote: »

Skimmed through it, it looks right.
Sadly theorycrafting isn't popular in TERA so unless this information is translated into calculator format, it probably won't generate a lot of attention

I am just creating this for people have some reference in the future. Is still a work in progress, so I should do some changes in the future.

Ketoth

[quote="xEmptiness;13051"]Ohh, a fully functional calculator! Are you thinking of a rotation optimizer too? [/quote]


Actually i already have a manual rotation calculator that i released 6months in the old forums.

https://tera-forums.enmasse.com/forums/player-vs-environment/topics/Gear-calc-and-theorical-dps-spreadsheet

the download link should still work. Yeah i am working on optimizing, but for that I had to switch from excel to matlab. And this will take a while, and only for archer initially.

Pixelator

Excellent work Ketoth! As a fellow theorycrafter, I'm appreciative especially of the research you've been doing into the crit factor to chance conversion.

I wanted to know if you had additional insight into this:
As a Slayer, there are two skills that have the triple crit factor glyph: Heart Thrust and Whirlwind. However, having both glyphed, I've noticed in parses that Heart Thrust has significantly higher crit chance than WW (consistently higher by 15-20% chance - without the carving glyph from Overpower). Does this fall into the BCSM phenomenon?

Ketoth

When i checked slayer wasnt like that. If you look your profile while casting HT there is a Crit Rate increase.

Other possible could be that

Hyspherical

In section 2.3.1.4 discussing level differences you multiplied the 9% (0.09*0.09) instead of adding (0.09+0.09). The way you described it made it seem that it would just sum up.

Ketoth

Hyspherical wrote: »

In section 2.3.1.4 discussing level differences you multiplied the 9% (0.09*0.09) instead of adding (0.09+0.09). The way you described it made it seem that it would just sum up.

They dont add, its a multiplicative stack if was a lvl 1 mob vs a level 65 player would be (1+0.09)^(65-1)=248X, that is why you see so huge numbers when attacking a low lvl mob, also their defense is low.

source

inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2152&name=subject&keyword=%C4%A1%B8%ED&l=17127

wrote: »

[데미지]

레벨60 부근에서 데미지는

레벨1차이마다 복리로 9% 정도 늘어나거나 줄어듭니다.

고로...

레벨60이 레벨55를 때리면 150% 데미지가 들어갑니다. (50% 상승 = 1.09 * 1.09 * 1.09 * 1.09 * 1.09)

레벨60이 레벨65를 때리면 63% 데미지가 들어갑니다. (37% 하락 = 0.91 * 0.91 * 0.91 * 0.91 * 0.91)

ZebNiko

From my testing, if any one cares to test themselves, your level is added to the skill damage. So it looks like:

Damage = Attack ( Skill damage + CharacterLevel ) / Defense

I only tested on random mobs (from lvl 1, to lvl 32, and some lvl 64-65) and all the classes before brawler. According to that source, that 9% works for around level 60~

Ketoth

ZebNiko wrote: »

From my testing, if any one cares to test themselves, your level is added to the skill damage. So it looks like:

Damage = Attack ( Skill damage + CharacterLevel ) / Defense

I only tested on random mobs (from lvl 1, to lvl 32, and some lvl 64-65) and all the classes before brawler. According to that source, that 9% works for around level 60~

What really happens is that for every level you are above the level you learned the skill the damage of the skill increase by 3.5% (i just added to the guide), this is not additive, so is true damage increase.

The korean tested used the same gear with the same skills lvls in the same monster, but just increase his level.

ZebNiko

ok needs more letters

cuz

This post is beautiful. Thank you @Ketoth I am so happy this exists. Great work friend.

Ketoth

Releasing my data:

How % damage affect skills

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1oDIUbBuAIi0yFFOuyoEqzm3ZiNSNEwJGjkp8fQb6NfQ

Crit Chance Test

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cskbW113WJpREeQEF25Qn9QUdKy34Itjpxl2oS_LUGA

Endurance Debuff

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1XtrgBY3Q68xbd_OTg7D_aZIE1pgQ8XfaD6g2VeUI7P4

KennyHealsMobile

Very interesting read, would you be willing to share the program screenshoted in section 5?

Ketoth

KennyHealsMobile wrote: »

Very interesting read, would you be willing to share the program screenshoted in section 5?

Thank you.

the ss is part of a big program i am still working. It is on MATLAB, so unless you have the software, sharing that code will be useless.

When i finish i will share the code, and possible a .exe if a manage to do without the libraries.

Ketoth

Added a section about noctenium
But trying to figure how the 2nd noctenium consumption works is a challenge

edit. i figure it out. will post tomorrow. tip: BHS math operations are crazy

FernetDoble

As a theorycraft fanboy. im already hyped about this. Pls ketoth, bern, TERA needs ppl like you ;_;