Ninja is bad

H7NNLJYME7

The intention of this thread is to get attention from EME and let them realize the situation Ninja class is facing - extremely weak compare to other dps classes (I doubt any RK9HM party would take ninja during the first month cause those shields are fuking thicc, and low dps makes the runs very painful). I believe EME doesn't understand the game at all and totally doesn't aware about this issue. This was just an attempt to balance this class but of course I know it is pretty much impossible with the understanding of what kind of companies we are dealing with - still worth a try.

This is not a post asking for help from players to teach me how to deal with the situation. and stop calling me bad Q.Q I know I suk OKAY?

If you don't have the same problem I have, that's because your parties are not hardcore/elitist enough. Just like everyone who is able to do 2m+ in vsh lakan would only run with lancer and avoid brawler. But I guess I'm just a minority

At least things like this keep reminds me of how bad BHS/EME can be as game designer/publisher, so it might be a smart thing to avoid playing other games they run in the future.

No point for more discussions in this post nothing is gonna change anyways.

DreamMT

H7NNLJYME7 wrote: »

The intention of this thread is to get attention from EME and let them realize the situation Ninja class is facing - extremely weak compare to other dps classes (I doubt any RK9HM party would take ninja during the first month cause those shields are fuking thicc, and low dps makes the runs very painful). I believe EME doesn't understand the game at all and totally doesn't aware about this issue. This was just an attempt to balance this class but of course I know it is pretty much impossible with the understanding of what kind of companies we are dealing with - still worth a try.

This is not a post asking for help from players to teach me how to deal with the situation. and stop calling me bad Q.Q I know I suk OKAY?

If you don't have the same problem I have, that's because your parties are not hardcore/elitist enough. Just like everyone who is able to do 2m+ in vsh lakan would only run with lancer and avoid brawler. But I guess I'm just a minority

At least things like this keep reminds me of how bad BHS/EME can be as game designer/publisher, so it might be a smart thing to avoid playing other games they run in the future.

No point for more discussions in this post nothing is gonna change anyways.

Your OP did not point to specific talents and why their strengths change the efficiency of skills to the point of having a different priority to their skills. Your OP did not dive into a discussion of possible ways to slowly work some of the non-power based talents into skills to at least make the classes play similarly in different regions.
Your OP did not tag a staff member or even read as a post directed towards you wanting a reply from one.

Your OP mentioned Ninja's being underpowered outside of Ktera then was filled with the same horse [filtered] that your recent post I just quoted is full of.
>"I doubt any RK9HM party would take ninja during the first month"
The people who still love ninja despite being the current bottom tier of dps, like myself, will be clearing that [filtered] on day 1.
It's so aggravating to listen to people like you spread this horse [filtered] overused meme about "extreme classism".
>"If you don't have the same problem I have, that's because your parties are not hardcore/elitist enough."
I literally run with core members of Amaterasu on a daily basis. I hold VSHM Top 2 and #1 scores for Ninja on MG from throw together parties with friends. Sure if you are parsing vs someone who ran Lancer+Mystic, you are gonna have to use that comp too, but by no means are we gonna turn away a good brawler player for a quick 15m run of VSHM.
This thread may have had the intentions to make EME see the state of Ninja, but the more you cover the actual problems and facts with hyperbolic anecdote you only hurt the conversation.
You are told to run on your FotM alts because *your* ninja dps in VSHM is garbo.

Zerea

Well first off this thread is utterly pointless because EME has no developers to do anything even if they wanted to, which they do not. BHS doesn't care about imbalance caused by lack of talents either, and also because they have no way of replicating the talent system even if they did.

But you seem to be getting rather upset over the fact you're getting told to swap to another class, which brings up two things.

1. You're a bad Ninja
2. You really need to find better friends to play with.

If I'm being told regularly to switch off my main to another class that should tell me something very important about my performance on that class and the expectations of the people I'm running with. Why do you keep playing with people who regularly tell you to your face that you're not good enough to run with them? The class isn't doing great, but it's perfectly fine if you play it well.

If you go back and check those fancy Moongourd logs you seem to be very fond of looking at, you'll see quite a few parses with Ninjas under four minutes. You'd think maybe you would comb through them and see what they're doing differently that you're not. I wouldn't be that surprised to learn a few of those are still in Ambush. You'd think that maybe instead of whining on the forums about how your class is awful, you'd try everything in your power to be the best Ninja you could possibly be instead of crapping out early and blaming it on the class.

So please tell me more about how you're not being invited into the run just because you're a Ninja. You're not getting any sympathy from anybody who's actually put time and effort into becoming very good at their class, because that's the one thing you haven't done.