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Ideas for Elite
I'm probably not the only one that's noticed that Elite rewards have gone downhill from what they used to be, and I mean very downhill very badly. It would be great if some of the old style rewards were possibly added back or maybe some new additions to help those that DO pay for elite. I wanted to post a few Ideas I had and see what everyone else thought as well.
1. add a GEAR EXP INCREASE bonus ~ the current 100% exp bonus only helps when leveling a character but adding this will also help those who have already reached 65 as well and seriously makes the exp rewards good whether you're a new or old player! It doesn't necessarily have to be a 100% bonus either, even a 10-20% increase would be worth it.
2. Elite Gift Box update ~ every time I open it, I'm disappointed and start reconsidering Elite Status. This used to contain things like random pets, mounts, and cosmetic items. Things that you would need to purchase from the Tera Store. I'd like to see that returned instead of getting 5 Golden Talents or a Dye. We give money to you. Please make it worth it.
3. NPC Summoning Scrolls ~ add the NPC summoning scrolls back to Elite or even add them to the Elite Bar. We used to get a stack of 30 every month of Dimon, Phargo, Schwab and I don't remember the 4th one's name. I don't know why they were removed but that is a value that helped with game play but didn't make it imbalanced. Even with what is in the Rewards Emporium, you have to reach tier 9 to get just the banker and you still don't receive the other ones. With how much you actually have to have for the rewards emporium, that's just not worth it to summon a banker. (Another idea would be to add the NPC summoning skills at a lower tier on the rewards emporium and put all 4 in there at different levels such as tier 3 gets the crystal merchant, tier 4 gets the traveling merchant, tier 5 gets the broker, and tier 6 gets the banker. Then it adds value there as well.)
4. Remove or edit the 100% Gold Bonus buff ~ The gold boost really does next to nothing at this point since most gold is obtained via vanguard rewards and it doesn't apply to those. Unless you'd like to make it apply to the vanguards and quests as well, its virtually useless.
5. Permanent Strong Bravery Buff ~ rather than give us the Strong Bravery potions or Canaphora potions on a daily basis with the Elite Consumables, adding a permanent Strong Bravery Potion similar to the Everful Nostrum that we can just use whenever we want it and allow it to be overwritten by the Strong Canaphora for those that have and use them. It would help reduce the amount of stuff we need to keep in our inventory in order to play to the level we actually try to play to.
6. Permanent Noctenium Buff ~ Please. Just please. This would make me love you again! This actually adds value and makes Elite much more worth what we pay and why we pay for it.
I know a lot of people have posted about ideas to actually give value to Elite again because of how undervalued it is currently and I hope this one actually gets read and people give good opinions and not just rage posts. it would be nice if Elite players actually got their money's worth again whereas it feels like i'm just paying for the fast travel at the moment.
1. add a GEAR EXP INCREASE bonus ~ the current 100% exp bonus only helps when leveling a character but adding this will also help those who have already reached 65 as well and seriously makes the exp rewards good whether you're a new or old player! It doesn't necessarily have to be a 100% bonus either, even a 10-20% increase would be worth it.
2. Elite Gift Box update ~ every time I open it, I'm disappointed and start reconsidering Elite Status. This used to contain things like random pets, mounts, and cosmetic items. Things that you would need to purchase from the Tera Store. I'd like to see that returned instead of getting 5 Golden Talents or a Dye. We give money to you. Please make it worth it.
3. NPC Summoning Scrolls ~ add the NPC summoning scrolls back to Elite or even add them to the Elite Bar. We used to get a stack of 30 every month of Dimon, Phargo, Schwab and I don't remember the 4th one's name. I don't know why they were removed but that is a value that helped with game play but didn't make it imbalanced. Even with what is in the Rewards Emporium, you have to reach tier 9 to get just the banker and you still don't receive the other ones. With how much you actually have to have for the rewards emporium, that's just not worth it to summon a banker. (Another idea would be to add the NPC summoning skills at a lower tier on the rewards emporium and put all 4 in there at different levels such as tier 3 gets the crystal merchant, tier 4 gets the traveling merchant, tier 5 gets the broker, and tier 6 gets the banker. Then it adds value there as well.)
4. Remove or edit the 100% Gold Bonus buff ~ The gold boost really does next to nothing at this point since most gold is obtained via vanguard rewards and it doesn't apply to those. Unless you'd like to make it apply to the vanguards and quests as well, its virtually useless.
5. Permanent Strong Bravery Buff ~ rather than give us the Strong Bravery potions or Canaphora potions on a daily basis with the Elite Consumables, adding a permanent Strong Bravery Potion similar to the Everful Nostrum that we can just use whenever we want it and allow it to be overwritten by the Strong Canaphora for those that have and use them. It would help reduce the amount of stuff we need to keep in our inventory in order to play to the level we actually try to play to.
6. Permanent Noctenium Buff ~ Please. Just please. This would make me love you again! This actually adds value and makes Elite much more worth what we pay and why we pay for it.
I know a lot of people have posted about ideas to actually give value to Elite again because of how undervalued it is currently and I hope this one actually gets read and people give good opinions and not just rage posts. it would be nice if Elite players actually got their money's worth again whereas it feels like i'm just paying for the fast travel at the moment.
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Regarding the Elite Gift Box, keep in mind you get one per day. They're not going to give you "random pets, mounts, and cosmetics items [...] that you would need to purchase from the TERA Store" every day -- or if they did, it'd be like 1-day versions. It would certainly feel more "impressive" if it were a monthly gift instead of daily, but that's tricky now that Elite can be provided in any-sized increments.
All in all, some modest boost (10%? 20%?) in things like Item XP and Vanguard Gold could be worth pursuing, but I would prefer it doesn't end up being "OP". I would prefer (as I said in some other threads) changing TERA Rewards around so that there's a better tie-in to Elite and reward through that (including rewarding Elite loyalty through that).
I hope Elite can give something really good for those who pay for it.
For me would be to have more cash shop items with discounts and not only on loot boxes.
@counterpoint I know they haven't gone downhill "recently" but they have gone way downhill from what they used to be. even if they don't give the pets, costumes, mounts, etc in the daily gift box, giving 1 free costume, pet, mount, etc per month when you renew would still be better than it is right now. adding them into the loot rotation for the Elite Gift box would be much better though because then it will encourage those who have elite to log on daily if for nothing other than to redeem those items and hope to get a good reward. a small boost of 10-20% for vanguard exp and gold rewards would be a great item as well as I previously stated or even double vanguards in some instances on the lower ones. i do agree that the rewards system really does need to be revamped though. at the moment, you nearly have to spend a year's full time income in order to get to a high reward area. maybe offering reward tokens for some party things as well or a revamp of how the rewards are laid out.
@Setian yeah my thinking was that a pet wouldnt be that much different than having the elite mount and could be on the same bar. then it could even be changed out monthly if they wanted to. i know quite a few people that would want elite just for that because it would mean their pet would get switched on occasion and they could see the different ones instead of the same one all the time.
Felicity is in the loot table for the Elite Gift Box now, albeit as a rare item. Maybe they can add a few more items like that as other rare items... but it still won't really change the point that "most days" won't feel that amazing. This is why I'd rather have them revamp rewards emporium and then give reward credits to Elite in various ways so that, over time, they could buy the reward(s) they want.
What about a free auto-looting pet for those who have elite only active for the time they have elite?
this. exactly this
I'm not saying it needs to feel "amazing" every day. I'm saying that AT THIS TIME it's just not worth it for most people to get Elite. Adding items, even as rare, to the gift boxes and even increasing the current items (i.e. 50 silver talents instead of 5) it would at least help. Revamping the rewards emporium is a good idea as well however this thread isn't about the emporium. its about Elite value.
Sapphire (stack of 5)
Emerald (stack of 1 - 5)
Diamond (stack of 1 - 3)
and increasing the rarity as it goes up
My reason for bringing it up is that, rather than random rewards, it's better if people can choose their own rewards. That's why I'd like to tie the two together so that Elite can allow people to get more rewards of their choosing (assuming the selection is improved).
I'm not sure that it's a good idea to give gifts that can be converted directly to gold. It was tried a few years ago as monthly gifts. I would rather see, instead, they implement a small increase on gold earned through gameplay, as already discussed.
I'd honestly be interested in a poll on this one. I feel like some people will love it, while others will just consider it pointless and valueless (like all the other Elite rewards you can do already for free with a bit of effort).
While I do think it's important for people to see the value in Elite, I think it's also important to preserve the balance so that it remains optional and F2P is 100% viable. So whatever changes they make, they have to keep that balance in mind.
- I would like to see costumes such as the pirate or the legitimate business costumes, maybe even some of the slightly newer ones like Hydrath or Rogue's. I would even be fine with temporary ones like 7 day or something.
- Gemstones, as Symbre suggested, would spice things up a bit but make them a bit uncommon at minimum, maybe like a 1:5 for sapphire, 1:10 or 15 for emeralds and a bit more common than felicity for the diamonds
- Talents are fine but just increase the amounts. I would personally be happy with something like 10 - 20 talents (are silver talents even in the box drop table or is it only gold?)
- Temporary weapon skins would be cool too but most likely not permanent skins and if they were there, very very rare.
- Goldfinger tokens and dragon scales? Stack of 10 maybe?
- Decent stacks of fashion coupons like 250+?
- Small accessories would be cool too (backpacks, wings and such).
- Mounts, temporary or permanent, same principle as before, 7 day temp or really rare perma. No flying mounts of course.
I actually do like having the dyes but please make it a less common drop. I get one every other day when its not a stack of gold talents. Just add some more stuff to the boxes so there is some variety.
At this point I think the hunter's gold boost needs to go from the bar and probably be merged with other constant elite buffs such as the xp boost and crystalbind BUT NOT REMOVED. I think the nostrum should be merged as well.
Not really but kind of elite status related but can we maybe get a push to BHS to revamp the rep vendors? Minor things would be cool but not entirely sure what just yet as most of their purpose was shifted to vanguard.
An auto loot pet on the bar would be super sweet btw.
I can't really think of anything else right now but I'm sure I can think of something else.
Well, I have many pets and mounts already so they are not valuable for me, if I think about my current characters, but this will be valuable for new character I made and for those new players in the game that could be a good QoL also without being gamebreaking.
About the idea of ITEM EXP, I can asure you that if you even get the 100% item exp boost it won't make it game breaking. Just look at the odds you have on Twisthard tier gear, there is almost useless because you can brute force your way to frostmetal with 250k gold, I already did this with 2 characters and that was about the max amount of gold I used to get all in hightier gear.
Now, in frostmetal and stormcry it does not make it p2w or game breaking because the aditional % of success you get from exp is lower than Twisthard, making it almost invisible for some players that keeps failing even with max exp, when other people with luck manage to get to the next level with one or tw tries without even having exp at all.
I don't think gold is an issue right now, I think we don't really need a boost for earning gold in elite, but there are other things that could make it apealing like having more slots (at least 5 more) in your Travel Journal or getting discounts on more stuff in the cash shop.
I think the discounts on more cash shop items would be nice, even small discounts between 5-10%