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Im confused about blue nocs

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  • KillerPenguinsKillerPenguins ✭✭✭✭
    Honestly, blue nocs would not be as big an issue if we weren't so far behind ktera balance - for instance, once velik's buff was added to rrhm, it's now easy to clear even with no consumables, when people were wiping it in 15 minute fights + full consumables just a few days earlier.
  • Pretty much all the points in this thread against it have basically been "Why didn't you farm a bunch during the anniversary event last month?" or "It's only necessary for parsing, why do you want more?!"

    But it's not the anniversary event any more, so it's not a relevant point, even if it was not everyone logged in to grind every weekend that month, especially players who weren't playing and came back with the introduction of new gear and dungeons this month.

    As for the parse runs or all the other talk like that, why do we even have consumables if not to use them? If they're going to exist, why do they need to be unnecessarily grindy to obtain for the rate that they tend to be used by players who run content that has valid reason for using them?

    As it stands, there's 2 ways to obtain blue nocs in-game:

    900 vanguard credits + 500 noctenium. If you're only running hard content the vanguard credits required are the equivalent of 13 AAHM runs or 15 RKHM runs, for a single blue noc.

    3 dungeon delver coins. Except only ONE high-tier dungeon is on spotlight every 2 weeks for 72 hours. Said dungeon also only awards 3 coins, so at most you're breaking even, assuming that the spotlight dungeon is the one you want to run.

    Now of course, I didn't include farming low-tier dungeons in that. Well, that raises the question of why is it necessary that the answer to attaining high-tier consumables is to spam inordinate amounts of low-tier dungeons? Why are high-tier dungeons themselves not rewarding enough to be sustainable?
    Not only that, but a 3-star dungeon awards 1 coin. Let's say you run 2 runs of AAHM a day, across 11 days that there's no event, that's 22 blue noc for the non-event time period. In other words that's 66 low-tier dungeon runs, or 22 dungeon runs per day for 3 days straight every 2 weeks just to break even on usage.
    Of course if you like to reset, that becomes 132 low-tier dungeons or 44 per day for 3 days.
    Either way, you're spending an absurd amount of time running low-tier content that's not even relevant to you.

    So in summary, the two options given in-game are to either do a on average 14:1 exchange rate for dungeons:blue nocs, which is absurd. Or only run the dungeon for 3 out of every 14 days in order to break even on consumable usage. Alternatively wait for that event that happens every 3 out of 14 days and farm low-tier dungeons for 72 straight hours.

    Meanwhile in comparison to EU, in EU it takes 2.5X low-tier dungeon runs to earn tokens to obtain 1 blue noc, slightly better than our version, but not by much. However a 5-star dungeon rewards enough tokens to purchase 2 blue noc per run, more than double the value of our version, because of far more reasonable reward scaling.
    There's also the small caveat that in EU, it's not an event, and it affects all dungeons at all times. Their basic game function out-values our "event" by several fold.
  • ImarabbitdawgImarabbitdawg ✭✭
    edited June 2018
    How about replace the 100-200 common noct from the current VG for 20/30min blue noct instead? 20min for ilvl 446, 30min for ilvl 453.
  • > @Imarabbitdawg said:
    > How about replace the 100-200 common noct from the current VG for 20/30min blue noct instead? 20min for ilvl 446, 30min for ilvl 453.

    Bro stop. You are making too much sense!
  • EpikpieEpikpie
    edited June 2018
    It usually takes my group about an hour of consumables to do 1 full AAHM and we don’t just use blue noct. So being compensated for a little bit of what we had to use would be nice.
  • just use normal nocts if you have to, they are almost as good. yeah, that "50% effect increase" seems nice but all it's really doing is turning a 6% skill dmg boost into a 9%.
  • CassandraTRCassandraTR ✭✭✭✭✭
    Infinitee wrote: »
    just use normal nocts if you have to, they are almost as good. yeah, that "50% effect increase" seems nice but all it's really doing is turning a 6% skill dmg boost into a 9%.

    ...lol you don't know who Saabi is, do you?
  • SaabiSaabi ✭✭✭
    edited June 2018
    I've brought this issue up before, prior to the dungeon highlights that they added to the game. Refer to here: https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/20998/the-issue-with-bluenocs-please-help/p1

    This is not my first time highlighting this issue. This is a serious problem for players who farm high level content. Why are the casuals so opposed to us getting more blue nocs?
  • chowyoudownchowyoudown ✭✭
    edited June 2018
    refiners cost under half of what we have on NA for noctenium in other regions, why is that a thing
  • gold boosts have been useless after vm1 gold nerfs replace it with something useful
  • SaabiSaabi ✭✭✭
    edited June 2018
    This problem is gonna be even more infuriating when DSU comes out. Can't wait to run into the problem of my party running out of blue nocs and not being able to clear DSU ESPECIALLY when we are missing other things that increase dps that KOREA has. But whatever...
  • KillerPenguinsKillerPenguins ✭✭✭✭
    Saabi wrote: »
    This problem is gonna be even more infuriating when DSU comes out. Can't wait to run into the problem of my party running out of blue nocs and not being able to clear DSU ESPECIALLY when we are missing other things that increase dps that KOREA has. But whatever...
    <LFG> DSU SLAYING ONLY FULL +9 SKILLED (blue noc only!)
  • VinyltailsVinyltails ✭✭✭✭
    Saabi wrote: »
    This problem is gonna be even more infuriating when DSU comes out. Can't wait to run into the problem of my party running out of blue nocs and not being able to clear DSU ESPECIALLY when we are missing other things that increase dps that KOREA has. But whatever...
    <LFG> DSU SLAYING ONLY FULL +9 SKILLED (blue noc only!)

    You missed out the "Zerk/Warrior Only"
  • KillerPenguinsKillerPenguins ✭✭✭✭
    Vinyltails wrote: »
    Saabi wrote: »
    This problem is gonna be even more infuriating when DSU comes out. Can't wait to run into the problem of my party running out of blue nocs and not being able to clear DSU ESPECIALLY when we are missing other things that increase dps that KOREA has. But whatever...
    <LFG> DSU SLAYING ONLY FULL +9 SKILLED (blue noc only!)

    You missed out the "Zerk/Warrior Only"

    there are other classes????
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