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FPS Drops on gaming computer

Hello everyone, time no see! I'll go right to the topic, after so long time of no playing Tera I wanted to get back, changed a computer by few days with with a 32GB Ram with gamer mobo and core i7 cpu and yet I see my Tera game drops frames it keeps running by 1 to 3 FPS and I at this point I don't know what to do here, I was looking for a solution around and found in this forum a solution that required alternating the actual files in the folder and wouldn't do that. Considered to open a ticket soon because is unplayable like this
Any other suggestions?


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  • YuhataYuhata ✭✭✭
    Just PM'd you.
  • Don't know if this will help, but it did for me. After some of the more recent patches, I noticed my frames where dropping like crazy in certain dungeons on certain bosses. Ranging from 90+ fps before boss fight, to 3 - 5 fps when fights starts. After tweaking with game video settings a bit, I found out the culprit was lurid display.. After turning lurid display from max to 0 while keeping everything else the same, frame drops are gone ;o and all I really lost is blood splatter when attacking enemies. Of course, this only fixes this particular case I faced, frame drops in open world and towns with lots of people still there D:
  • voidyvoidy ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2016
    Every person I know who has crazy specs but still has FPS issues is also using an i7 processor. I have no way to back this up besides the mountains of anecdotal evidence, but I really think this game just doesn't play well with i7 CPUs for some reason.

    My much weaker PC running an i5 gets 30-40 fps in dungeons on preset 5. My best friend, and like a dozen others, who have i7 processors and much better graphics cards and more RAM all have the same issues you've mentioned with framerate.

    EDIT: That aside, if you haven't yet you should read Bernkastel's TERA Optimization Guide. It's full of tweaks and mods and fixes for the game's many optimization issues.
  • NopiNopi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lurid display and aerial should not be at max. Not sure if the sky issue was ever fixed but I'm keeping aerial in the middle (1) setting. Character max set at unrestricted can give issues in packed zones if character draw distance is also high. Other things to note, tossing your Tera folder on your AV exclusions list helps a little if running Windows 10.
  • Still doesn't fix how horrible this UI is when it comes to how much is destroys your framerate just by having it on. This is a comparison after all tweaks were made, max settings and everything at 2560 x 1440. I'd say someone needs to go back to the drawing board on how to not make the UI a damn resource hog, then optimize the game for the CPU. Just my 2 cents.

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  • So you're playing on an i7 with 32gb of RAM and getting 1-3 fps? I'm playing on an i3 with 4gb of RAM :(

    Mannn if I spent that much money upgrading my potato just to get even worse performance than I already have... can you actually sue BHS for something like that? LOL, kidding, of course you can't...

    Yeah, check the guides, for TERA optimization, UI tweaks, graphics settings and Windows Defender, blah blah blah, there's about ten million things you have to do to make TERA run smoothly on even the best PCs apparently. Though it seems that i5's with NVidia graphics tend to run TERA better than i7's with AMD; just my personal observation after reading dozens of forum posts.
  • MinazukiMinazuki ✭✭✭
    Do the mobo have integrated graphic card?
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    voidy wrote: »
    Every person I know who has crazy specs but still has FPS issues is also using an i7 processor. I have no way to back this up besides the mountains of anecdotal evidence, but I really think this game just doesn't play well with i7 CPUs for some reason.

    My much weaker PC running an i5 gets 30-40 fps in dungeons on preset 5. My best friend, and like a dozen others, who have i7 processors and much better graphics cards and more RAM all have the same issues you've mentioned with framerate.

    EDIT: That aside, if you haven't yet you should read Bernkastel's TERA Optimization Guide. It's full of tweaks and mods and fixes for the game's many optimization issues.

    I doubt it's just an issue with an i7, friend uses an i7 and she has no problems that are out of the ordinary and the only reason I get higher fps than her even though I use an i5 is because I have mine clocked higher to get a similar performance and my ram is set at more than twice the frequency of hers. Ram frequency is often ignored but it seems it makes a little difference in fps for Intel based desktops when it comes to Tera.
  • Okay so I'm pretty much an idiot when it comes to PCs and technology, but what if - the reason TERA runs better on i5s than on i7s, is because at the time TERA was being developed, i5 processors were the norm? And it hasn't really been "optimized" per se since then?

    Sorry, I'm just a dumb pleb with a dumb theory. I was thinking that maybe computer technology has actually outpaced the capabilities of TERA's software. In much the same way that most of my Windows 95 based games will no longer run on Windows 8 (stupid Windows 8, pls give me my oldschool games back, pls)
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2016
    Valkala wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    voidy wrote: »
    Every person I know who has crazy specs but still has FPS issues is also using an i7 processor. I have no way to back this up besides the mountains of anecdotal evidence, but I really think this game just doesn't play well with i7 CPUs for some reason.

    My much weaker PC running an i5 gets 30-40 fps in dungeons on preset 5. My best friend, and like a dozen others, who have i7 processors and much better graphics cards and more RAM all have the same issues you've mentioned with framerate.

    EDIT: That aside, if you haven't yet you should read Bernkastel's TERA Optimization Guide. It's full of tweaks and mods and fixes for the game's many optimization issues.

    I doubt it's just an issue with an i7, friend uses an i7 and she has no problems that are out of the ordinary and the only reason I get higher fps than her even though I use an i5 is because I have mine clocked higher to get a similar performance and my ram is set at more than twice the frequency of hers. Ram frequency is often ignored but it seems it makes a little difference in fps for Intel based desktops when it comes to Tera.

    One person saying they don't notice a difference doesn't mean i7s doesn't have issues with tera.

    You're looking for something that isn't there, there are plenty of people who don't use i7s and have a similar problem. People with i5s also have problems, AMD in general, and so on. It's just people who spent a lot on their machines are more likely to be vocal about their specs and people who spend more on their machines will typically have an i7 or an overclocked i5. I would also like to add that it seems there is lower performance for Tera when the cpu is overclocked in some situations.
  • voidyvoidy ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2016
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    I doubt it's just an issue with an i7, friend uses an i7 and she has no problems that are out of the ordinary and the only reason I get higher fps than her even though I use an i5 is because I have mine clocked higher to get a similar performance and my ram is set at more than twice the frequency of hers. Ram frequency is often ignored but it seems it makes a little difference in fps for Intel based desktops when it comes to Tera.

    I mean I hope it's another issue so people can fix their fps easily, but eh. In a lot of these cases the thing they have in common is that CPU.

    Like this old thread: http://tera-forums.enmasse.com/forums/general-discussion/topics/Tera-poorly-optimized-HELP-?page=1, where someone with an i7 processor was complaining about fps, and then on the second page another user with an i7 processor complained about never getting more than 20 fps. It's just one thread that comes to mind, but then you have this thread we're in right now where OP is having the same issue, and he also has an i7 processor. And now in this very same thread here's Valkala, another user with the same problem and he's also got an i7. I only remember this stuff because every time people are always incredulous about their poor performance, since they bothered splurging on a "better" CPU and got garbage for it.

    I'm definitely not ruling out other options, of course not, but seeing this trend multiple times has made me raise an eyebrow and thank god for my i5.
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    voidy wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    I doubt it's just an issue with an i7, friend uses an i7 and she has no problems that are out of the ordinary and the only reason I get higher fps than her even though I use an i5 is because I have mine clocked higher to get a similar performance and my ram is set at more than twice the frequency of hers. Ram frequency is often ignored but it seems it makes a little difference in fps for Intel based desktops when it comes to Tera.

    I mean I hope it's another issue so people can fix their fps easily, but eh. In a lot of these cases the thing they have in common is that CPU.

    Like this old thread: http://tera-forums.enmasse.com/forums/general-discussion/topics/Tera-poorly-optimized-HELP-?page=1, where someone with an i7 processor was complaining about fps, and then on the second page another user with an i7 processor complained about never getting more than 20 fps. It's just one thread that comes to mind, but then you have this thread we're in right now where OP is having the same issue, and he also has an i7 processor. And now in this very same thread here's Valkala, another user with the same problem and he's also got an i7. I only remember this stuff because every time people are always incredulous about their poor performance, since they bothered splurging on a "better" CPU and got garbage for it.

    I'm definitely not ruling out other options, of course not, but seeing this trend multiple times has made me raise an eyebrow and thank god for my i5.

    There tend to be other factors. Simply having an i7 doesn't guarantee you'll have problems. I have an i5, an i7, and a couple AMD processors and I had problems with both AMD processors and with the overclocked i5 under specific situations until I clocked it down a bit. Another suggestion would be disabling Hyperthreading as it's not useful for Tera and generally most people with an i7 aren't using the feature for anything honestly and should just disable it.
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2016
    Valkala wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    voidy wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    I doubt it's just an issue with an i7, friend uses an i7 and she has no problems that are out of the ordinary and the only reason I get higher fps than her even though I use an i5 is because I have mine clocked higher to get a similar performance and my ram is set at more than twice the frequency of hers. Ram frequency is often ignored but it seems it makes a little difference in fps for Intel based desktops when it comes to Tera.

    I mean I hope it's another issue so people can fix their fps easily, but eh. In a lot of these cases the thing they have in common is that CPU.

    Like this old thread: http://tera-forums.enmasse.com/forums/general-discussion/topics/Tera-poorly-optimized-HELP-?page=1, where someone with an i7 processor was complaining about fps, and then on the second page another user with an i7 processor complained about never getting more than 20 fps. It's just one thread that comes to mind, but then you have this thread we're in right now where OP is having the same issue, and he also has an i7 processor. And now in this very same thread here's Valkala, another user with the same problem and he's also got an i7. I only remember this stuff because every time people are always incredulous about their poor performance, since they bothered splurging on a "better" CPU and got garbage for it.

    I'm definitely not ruling out other options, of course not, but seeing this trend multiple times has made me raise an eyebrow and thank god for my i5.

    There tend to be other factors. Simply having an i7 doesn't guarantee you'll have problems. I have an i5, an i7, and a couple AMD processors and I had problems with both AMD processors and with the overclocked i5 under specific situations until I clocked it down a bit. Another suggestion would be disabling Hyperthreading as it's not useful for Tera and generally most people with an i7 aren't using the feature for anything honestly and should just disable it.

    I've disabled hyperthreading and it's had no effect whatsoever.

    The rest of your specifications may or may not be a factor. I've already pointed out other things such as cpu clock and ram frequency. There's also the fact the game isn't exactly known for being able to run properly. You could take two similar machines and get surprisingly different results. Even on just this one computer I have gotten a wide variety of fps ranges under certain settings. This isn't just about cpu differences either. My gpu jumps up to 80 degrees with 100% utilization while other people report little to no change in temperature with low utilization.

    Beyond the tweaks that are available, which unfortunately can not be discussed here, we would have to wait for Bluehole to actually do something about it.
  • edited June 2016
    YeDG wrote: »
    Hello everyone, time no see! I'll go right to the topic, after so long time of no playing Tera I wanted to get back, changed a computer by few days with with a 32GB Ram with gamer mobo and core i7 cpu and yet I see my Tera game drops frames it keeps running by 1 to 3 FPS and I at this point I don't know what to do here, I was looking for a solution around and found in this forum a solution that required alternating the actual files in the folder and wouldn't do that. Considered to open a ticket soon because is unplayable like this
    Any other suggestions?


    thank you for reading♥

    When you upgraded to the i7, did you also upgrade in core frequency as compared to what you had before?
    Tera doesn't use all of the CPU cores, so if you change from a really fast lower core CPU to a more multi core CPU that runs at a lower frequency, you are basically downgrading your game.
    Basically, a 2 core running at 4.5hz will perform better in game than a 8 core running as 3.0hz.
  • YeDG wrote: »
    Hello everyone, time no see! I'll go right to the topic, after so long time of no playing Tera I wanted to get back, changed a computer by few days with with a 32GB Ram with gamer mobo and core i7 cpu and yet I see my Tera game drops frames it keeps running by 1 to 3 FPS and I at this point I don't know what to do here, I was looking for a solution around and found in this forum a solution that required alternating the actual files in the folder and wouldn't do that. Considered to open a ticket soon because is unplayable like this
    Any other suggestions?


    thank you for reading♥

    When you upgraded to the i7, did you also upgrade in core frequency as compared to what you had before?
    Tera doesn't use all of the CPU cores, so if you change from a really fast lower core CPU to a more multi core CPU that runs at a lower frequency, you are basically downgrading your game.
    Basically, a 2 core running at 4.5hz will perform better in game than a 8 core running as 3.0hz.

    It can be, but I am a bit confused, because:
    My actual i7 runs at 4.0hz, my older PC had a core i3 with 3.50hz (turbo goes to 4.0hz) and I got the same results

    I must say that I live in Europe, but region and far server that wasn't an issue when I used to play Tera with my laptop that has core i3 1.9hz with 4gb RAM and basically is in my living room, very far from my wifi modem and I ran the game at a rate of 20-30 fps and it was playable, here instead, I am connected with the ethernet cable.
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