About the new "event"

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  • metagame wrote: »
    Vy1Vivi wrote: »
    For enchanting events you're really going to have to do better than this. It really wouldn't have killed you to give us the 1.5x enhancement rate that EU had for stormcry.
    http://tera.enmasse.com/events/dark-reaches

    stage 3

    You didn't read what I typed either ( I don't blame you, I typed a lot), or you forgot what our event had.
    Ours was for twistshard and frostmetal only, it left stormcry out. EU's event not only included twistshard and frostmetal, but stormcry as well. I had explained that in my post.
  • MyuuMewMyuuMew ✭✭
    edited November 2018
    ??? I gotten 3 stormcry enchatnt scrolls for handwear tho, some regulars fm and sc, and one punch up for sc, in my daily boxes what are you on about o-o
  • MyuuMew wrote: »
    ??? I gotten 3 stormcry enchatnt scrolls for handwear tho, some regulars fm and sc, and one punch up for sc, in my daily boxes what are you on about o-o

    Another person who can't read well. We were referencing a different enhancement event. Not the punch-up event.

    Anyway, I rescind what I said earlier about this event being beneficial for new players. Its barely even that.

    From what I understand for the lower-tier dungeons you're not even guaranteed to get a box drop. How can you claim or aim to make this event for the new/returning players when those running the lower i-level dungeons may not get a box each run? Not everyone is even geared enough to run the 446 dungeons.

    Another issue is that for twistshard and frostmetal you have the same ridiculous degrade rule starting at +5. This just doesn't make any sense. I can understand for stormcry, but for twist and frost? Literally those two gear-sets are complete trash and fodder gear.

    I can't even be optimistic about it anymore. Literally the only good thing I see from this is that its a free enhancement chance with no material cost whether you fail or succeed. Even then it doesn't follow the game's enhancement rules: we don't know the success rate chances are, you apparently don't get a success rate increase per failure, and we don't even know if item exp is being taken into account here. With the limit to how many boxes you can open, and the poor drop-rate of the boxes in the dungeons, I'm seeing how this event is less and less useless.

    You have tons of people just selling the boxes on the marketplace rather than them using them its that much of a joke. Overall its a pretty poorly constructed event. Its a shame because just a couple changes could have been made to drastically improve it too, but it was implemented by people who don't know the game at all.

    If this event was taken straight from kr we didn't need it then. What we needed was the event that EU got, not this.
  • Vy1Vivi wrote: »
    MyuuMew wrote: »
    ??? I gotten 3 stormcry enchatnt scrolls for handwear tho, some regulars fm and sc, and one punch up for sc, in my daily boxes what are you on about o-o

    Another person who can't read well. We were referencing a different enhancement event. Not the punch-up event.

    Anyway, I rescind what I said earlier about this event being beneficial for new players. Its barely even that.

    From what I understand for the lower-tier dungeons you're not even guaranteed to get a box drop. How can you claim or aim to make this event for the new/returning players when those running the lower i-level dungeons may not get a box each run? Not everyone is even geared enough to run the 446 dungeons.

    Another issue is that for twistshard and frostmetal you have the same ridiculous degrade rule starting at +5. This just doesn't make any sense. I can understand for stormcry, but for twist and frost? Literally those two gear-sets are complete trash and fodder gear.

    I can't even be optimistic about it anymore. Literally the only good thing I see from this is that its a free enhancement chance with no material cost whether you fail or succeed. Even then it doesn't follow the game's enhancement rules: we don't know the success rate chances are, you apparently don't get a success rate increase per failure, and we don't even know if item exp is being taken into account here. With the limit to how many boxes you can open, and the poor drop-rate of the boxes in the dungeons, I'm seeing how this event is less and less useless.

    You have tons of people just selling the boxes on the marketplace rather than them using them its that much of a joke. Overall its a pretty poorly constructed event. Its a shame because just a couple changes could have been made to drastically improve it too, but it was implemented by people who don't know the game at all.

    If this event was taken straight from kr we didn't need it then. What we needed was the event that EU got, not this.

    well sorry but i assumed this was about the punch up seeing as OP was talking about the scrolls failing and eme saying they fixed the tool tip, didnt notice it went off topic to a different event
  • SageWinduSageWindu High Seat of the Jedi Council ✭✭✭✭✭
    Vy1Vivi wrote: »
    Snippage

    Some guildmates and I ran RRN last night and I got a scroll box that dropped from the last boss. When I told the others, the response I got implied that I was the only one who got it.

    So it seems that not only are the drops themselves RNG, but it also is subject to the usual loot distro f**kery just like almost everything else in the game. That's just not good design for an event that's supposed to accelerate and alleviate the gearing process for newer players.

    Did the previous double enchant event "bReAk ThE eCoNoMy" or something?
  • MyuuMewMyuuMew ✭✭
    edited November 2018
    it doesnt seem that way thats just how it is, can also confirm as me and 2 guildies ran rrn last night as well and only me and 1 guildie, our healer, got one. They just threw a rare drop in an already huge loot pool however since 2 out of 5 got it (the other people were on diff server so i didnt bother to ask if they got the drop) i assume it can drop multiple at least.

    its not a good design but its something, the only reason why im ok with it cause fails/degrades or not, it doesnt eat your item exp so you essential get 6 free levels and save on mats.

    also im sure the people selling the boxes are either already so far up in their gear they dont want to downgrade their possible sc or they are fine with their alts being in frost cause its enough to make money (i dont have anyone in sc myself yet cause i dont really care about doing the higher tier dgns) but anyway idk if its so much as the event being lame
    (tho cant comment on the rare boxes as i dont do hms so i assume those sellers are either +9 sc, ho or just want to profit off it.)

    Edit: Nevermind just did another RR this one completely with IM
    and all 5 us got the tanly box so its rng loot pool but it seems to be player based rather than party based.
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  • CornishRexCornishRex ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tfw in 3 full months of playing on EU my main is better geared and I have more well geared alts than I had after playing on NA for 2 years straight (3 and a half with breaks).

    Feels weird.
  • Vy1ViviVy1Vivi ✭✭✭
    edited November 2018
    SageWindu wrote: »
    Vy1Vivi wrote: »
    Snippage

    Some guildmates and I ran RRN last night and I got a scroll box that dropped from the last boss. When I told the others, the response I got implied that I was the only one who got it.

    So it seems that not only are the drops themselves RNG, but it also is subject to the usual loot distro f**kery just like almost everything else in the game. That's just not good design for an event that's supposed to accelerate and alleviate the gearing process for newer players.

    Did the previous double enchant event "bReAk ThE eCoNoMy" or something?

    I didn't even realize that some players could get the box and some not in each instance. I've run a few (only 446s) so far and gotten at least 1 of the common boxes each run and so has my boyfriend, so I just assumed that when one dropped everyone got it. Looks like its just even more rng on top of rng, which is also another disappointing factor I guess.
    MyuuMew wrote: »

    well sorry but i assumed this was about the punch up seeing as OP was talking about the scrolls failing and eme saying they fixed the tool tip, didnt notice it went off topic to a different event

    Oh okay, sorry.
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    HLK76PFWXT wrote: »
    This argument that BHS is behind everything and EME is the sister company that has to agree does not hold anymore. At least, i am pretty sure that EME mostly decides on the drop rates for scrolls and their enchantment rate for our region. At the same time, it is also EME who decides when and what events to hold ( and even if is not EME who decides then the fact that NA is not the greatest experience and so many decide to move to EU still happens.. actually, the ones that moved to EU with the DMCA thing have catched up with their NA gear and are laughing at us with a big smile ).


    And i am not trying to be negative or anything like that but this game will probably be a very unsightly experience at this rate in a few months from now since a selected few will run around with +5Heroic Oath or better and do 30% or more damage at PvE while doing 2shots at PvP ( and even if we will get the new set of gear for PvP which will be another grindy experience then this means that those who get it will have to either grind another set of gear for PvE or simply suck at PvE considering that Heroic Oath will be simply impossible to acquire ).


    p.s. i have full +9SC and i am already seeing the difference when going against +2 HO players

    BHS and EME being related doesn't give EME any sort of leverage for content. BHS in their relationship would be the overly dominant father who doesn't know what they're doing 90% of the time, but will never admit it and force the rest of the family to stick to their plan. Their ignorance and unwillingness to both listen and learn hasn't been an issue for just Tera, just look at PUBG, they only did so well when they had nearly zero competition, this last year they lost a majority of their player base.

    The grinding isn't the inherent problem either, it is the over reliance on RNG for progression. Games popular, and as old as Tera, are actually far more grindier than Tera, and some are designed for you to grind over and over every x months, and more people still play them over Tera. The complaints generally boil down to I spent X time getting Y but I have nothing to show for it because I'm still at the same position. BHS's way of handling progression has always been a complaint, and Europeans are just as dissatisfied with the game as those on NA. No need to pretend their version sees significantly higher activity when it doesn't.
  • SageWinduSageWindu High Seat of the Jedi Council ✭✭✭✭✭
    Vy1Vivi wrote: »
    SageWindu wrote: »
    Vy1Vivi wrote: »
    Snippage

    Some guildmates and I ran RRN last night and I got a scroll box that dropped from the last boss. When I told the others, the response I got implied that I was the only one who got it.

    So it seems that not only are the drops themselves RNG, but it also is subject to the usual loot distro f**kery just like almost everything else in the game. That's just not good design for an event that's supposed to accelerate and alleviate the gearing process for newer players.

    Did the previous double enchant event "bReAk ThE eCoNoMy" or something?

    I didn't even realize that some players could get the box and some not in each instance. I've run a few (only 446s) so far and gotten at least 1 of the common boxes each run and so has my boyfriend, so I just assumed that when one dropped everyone got it. Looks like its just even more rng on top of rng, which is also another disappointing factor I guess.

    According to some others it's a universal pick-up (that is, it goes to everyone in the party), so I might be wrong in my previous assessment.

  • HLK76PFWXTHLK76PFWXT ✭✭✭
    edited November 2018
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    HLK76PFWXT wrote: »
    This argument that BHS is behind everything and EME is the sister company that has to agree does not hold anymore. At least, i am pretty sure that EME mostly decides on the drop rates for scrolls and their enchantment rate for our region. At the same time, it is also EME who decides when and what events to hold ( and even if is not EME who decides then the fact that NA is not the greatest experience and so many decide to move to EU still happens.. actually, the ones that moved to EU with the DMCA thing have catched up with their NA gear and are laughing at us with a big smile ).


    And i am not trying to be negative or anything like that but this game will probably be a very unsightly experience at this rate in a few months from now since a selected few will run around with +5Heroic Oath or better and do 30% or more damage at PvE while doing 2shots at PvP ( and even if we will get the new set of gear for PvP which will be another grindy experience then this means that those who get it will have to either grind another set of gear for PvE or simply suck at PvE considering that Heroic Oath will be simply impossible to acquire ).


    p.s. i have full +9SC and i am already seeing the difference when going against +2 HO players

    BHS and EME being related doesn't give EME any sort of leverage for content. BHS in their relationship would be the overly dominant father who doesn't know what they're doing 90% of the time, but will never admit it and force the rest of the family to stick to their plan. Their ignorance and unwillingness to both listen and learn hasn't been an issue for just Tera, just look at PUBG, they only did so well when they had nearly zero competition, this last year they lost a majority of their player base.

    The grinding isn't the inherent problem either, it is the over reliance on RNG for progression. Games popular, and as old as Tera, are actually far more grindier than Tera, and some are designed for you to grind over and over every x months, and more people still play them over Tera. The complaints generally boil down to I spent X time getting Y but I have nothing to show for it because I'm still at the same position. BHS's way of handling progression has always been a complaint, and Europeans are just as dissatisfied with the game as those on NA. No need to pretend their version sees significantly higher activity when it doesn't.

    Do you know why i do not believe in this whole thing with BHS + EME = L.O.V.E? We had Spacecats in the past and he did bring some overly exaggerated events that practically gave in one weekend what we could usually get in a few months. So, it is possible to do that as well and have some sort of freedom over what and when to come up with events ( if you played this game enough then you might also remember the Tonka's World Bam Event that was actually a blast at the time ).

    Anyway, talking about such things is only wasting our time ( and the few remaining brain cells xD ).


    I have tried my stuff like any curious player and so far i was able to get decent enchants on some alts that actually makes me happy ( might as well get that cute elin brawler geared up and play with it xD ).
  • SageWindu wrote: »
    Vy1Vivi wrote: »
    SageWindu wrote: »
    Vy1Vivi wrote: »
    Snippage

    Some guildmates and I ran RRN last night and I got a scroll box that dropped from the last boss. When I told the others, the response I got implied that I was the only one who got it.

    So it seems that not only are the drops themselves RNG, but it also is subject to the usual loot distro f**kery just like almost everything else in the game. That's just not good design for an event that's supposed to accelerate and alleviate the gearing process for newer players.

    Did the previous double enchant event "bReAk ThE eCoNoMy" or something?

    I didn't even realize that some players could get the box and some not in each instance. I've run a few (only 446s) so far and gotten at least 1 of the common boxes each run and so has my boyfriend, so I just assumed that when one dropped everyone got it. Looks like its just even more rng on top of rng, which is also another disappointing factor I guess.

    According to some others it's a universal pick-up (that is, it goes to everyone in the party), so I might be wrong in my previous assessment.

    Well I do know its not guaranteed to drop at least in dungeons below 446. But in all the 446s I've run so far its dropped and everyone in the party has gotten it. To be honest its all more confusing than it should be.
  • From my view this event is to help new players but all the vets are up in here venting, can't please this community at all no matter how they try. Eme should just let the player council plan events for this game since they are doing nothing.
  • SageWinduSageWindu High Seat of the Jedi Council ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2018
    Melyodis wrote: »
    From my view this event is to help new players but all the vets are up in here venting, can't please this community at all no matter how they try. Eme should just let the player council plan events for this game since they are doing nothing.

    Be that as it may, it still could be done better. Having a chance at a free upgrade with an event like this works best if you're able to stockpile both the scroll boxes and the keys that open them. You can do the former but not the latter since, as it stands at least, getting keys relies on being able to log in to get those weird little boxes as well as completing various Vanguard quests.

    And that's to say nothing about how for many people achieving any sort of upgrade for SC gear is a slog...

    I do agree that the Council should be given more tasks, even if it's just to play Informational Hot Potato like the old days.

    Conjecture: I have a feeling we're going to be seeing these in the shop soon...
  • NopiNopi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Melyodis wrote: »
    From my view this event is to help new players but all the vets are up in here venting, can't please this community at all no matter how they try. Eme should just let the player council plan events for this game since they are doing nothing.

    If the members of the player council are actively playing the game right now, then they'd know the needs. So, it would indeed be more beneficial to listen to them. EME personnel themselves may not have the time to really play their game because they are working on it, so, as some people have expressed, they may seem a bit more disconnected from the "reality". Though I say reality in quotes, since in here, that's also based on opinion from those posting here.
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