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[KTERA] New Developer's Note about 30 man Raid

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  • NopiNopi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Madoif wrote: »
    Nopi wrote: »
    If this is a pro-player-only instance, I assume every server will have only exactly 30 people to clear these, at most. While it's great to have harder content, when the game starts catering to casuals, only to then release hard content, it's like BHS is sending a mixed message. That or they simply want to please everyone, which would be a big mistake in the long run. We will have to see when the content releases.

    I'm willing to bet it's 10 players that do the heavy lifting while the rest do whatever

    Well, I WOULD hope, if it's really going to be a pro-player-only 30 man raid, that all 30 players have to pull their own weight or fail the instance. Even if the instance has to turn it to eleven to achieve full participation. Sure, in an ideal world... (Sorry I'm using this phrase way too much lately)
  • I bet many things will be carried over from KnXX.

    In term of dps. I would say about 2/3 of the dps would have to be at the top of their game to pass some kind of dps check.

    Heavy DoT debuff to make healers busy.

    Aggro over time will reduce healing power to force at least 3 tanks to be present.

    Of course we cant know what special mechanic will test each member's skill or not.
  • NopiNopi ✭✭✭✭✭
    VirtualON wrote: »
    I bet many things will be carried over from KnXX.

    In term of dps. I would say about 2/3 of the dps would have to be at the top of their game to pass some kind of dps check.

    Heavy DoT debuff to make healers busy.

    Aggro over time will reduce healing power to force at least 3 tanks to be present.

    Of course we cant know what special mechanic will test each member's skill or not.

    If we take any hints from last content entries, I'd bet the mechanics will be a huge i-frame salad.
  • CatoriiCatorii ✭✭✭
    It actually sounds really interesting, and I like that they mentioned optimizations, but I guess we'll see how effective those are when KTERA gets it.

    I'm a sad panda about the "introduced Superior Etchings" bit though. Isn't etching in a bad enough state already?
  • Mobius1Mobius1 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2016
    I hope the gear is not BiS in PvP...

    But it sounds like the etching will be. And probably the weapon. So lame...
  • FleettFleett ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2016
    I already see elitists accepting only full +15, perfect rolls, tier 3 etchings, op class, and best brooch, plus skilled on first day the dungeon is released without giving other people a chance...
  • ReezReez ✭✭
    Fleett wrote: »
    I already see elitists accepting only full +15, perfect rolls, tier 3 etchings, op class, and best brooch, plus skilled on first day the dungeon is released without giving other people a chance...

    Well why would they accept +12 dreadnaught, incorrect rolls, tier 1 temporary etching with no brooch? Lol people always complaining about others being "elitist" when really they just want a smooth clear, smh.
  • NopiNopi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Reez wrote: »
    Fleett wrote: »
    I already see elitists accepting only full +15, perfect rolls, tier 3 etchings, op class, and best brooch, plus skilled on first day the dungeon is released without giving other people a chance...

    Well why would they accept +12 dreadnaught, incorrect rolls, tier 1 temporary etching with no brooch? Lol people always complaining about others being "elitist" when really they just want a smooth clear, smh.

    Because if the instance can be done properly as a mid tier character with proper rolls and proper player knowledge of their class, there wouldn't be any need for BiS everything and having a masters degree and professional player portfolio. It shouldn't be either extreme.
  • TWMagimayTWMagimay ✭✭✭✭✭
    Reez wrote: »
    Fleett wrote: »
    I already see elitists accepting only full +15, perfect rolls, tier 3 etchings, op class, and best brooch, plus skilled on first day the dungeon is released without giving other people a chance...

    Well why would they accept +12 dreadnaught, incorrect rolls, tier 1 temporary etching with no brooch? Lol people always complaining about others being "elitist" when really they just want a smooth clear, smh.

    In Tera, you have 2 choices. You can either be an elitist or the proud owner of a herniated disc.
  • FleettFleett ✭✭✭✭
    Dreadnaught? Nah fam, people don't want to even accept Slaugther +12 with perfect rolls, and not the best brooch, etchings, but alright ones.

    Truth be told, elitists will always accept +15 only.
  • Nopi wrote: »
    Reez wrote: »
    Fleett wrote: »
    I already see elitists accepting only full +15, perfect rolls, tier 3 etchings, op class, and best brooch, plus skilled on first day the dungeon is released without giving other people a chance...

    Well why would they accept +12 dreadnaught, incorrect rolls, tier 1 temporary etching with no brooch? Lol people always complaining about others being "elitist" when really they just want a smooth clear, smh.

    Because if the instance can be done properly as a mid tier character with proper rolls and proper player knowledge of their class, there wouldn't be any need for BiS everything and having a masters degree and professional player portfolio. It shouldn't be either extreme.

    Let me tell you I did not have a good time clearing queen on my +12 slaughter zerk.
  • FleettFleett ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2016
    @Madoif
    You're talking about a class that has the hardest time iframing. And is at the bottom in dps.

    I'm not saying it's wrong to accept a +15 over a +12, but give people a chance. If you look at who clears the top dungeons in the game it's always the same people.
  • KetothKetoth ✭✭✭✭
    Reez wrote: »
    Fleett wrote: »
    I already see elitists accepting only full +15, perfect rolls, tier 3 etchings, op class, and best brooch, plus skilled on first day the dungeon is released without giving other people a chance...

    Well why would they accept +12 dreadnaught, incorrect rolls, tier 1 temporary etching with no brooch? Lol people always complaining about others being "elitist" when really they just want a smooth clear, smh.

    People put gear checks, well, because they cant check if the player is actually good without running with them first.
    The high gear demand is there to compensate the fact you dont know how much they master their class.

    Also +15 gear was suppose to show how dedicated they are in the game.

    IHMO the first 2 stages, maybe the 3rd one could be "Puggable". But i dont see LFG groups clearing the last stage. And looking the rewards, the dps check will be high, the last stages will be cleared solely by the top players of the serve.

  • NopiNopi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Madoif wrote: »
    Nopi wrote: »
    Reez wrote: »
    Fleett wrote: »
    I already see elitists accepting only full +15, perfect rolls, tier 3 etchings, op class, and best brooch, plus skilled on first day the dungeon is released without giving other people a chance...

    Well why would they accept +12 dreadnaught, incorrect rolls, tier 1 temporary etching with no brooch? Lol people always complaining about others being "elitist" when really they just want a smooth clear, smh.

    Because if the instance can be done properly as a mid tier character with proper rolls and proper player knowledge of their class, there wouldn't be any need for BiS everything and having a masters degree and professional player portfolio. It shouldn't be either extreme.

    Let me tell you I did not have a good time clearing queen on my +12 slaughter zerk.

    But you did clear it. Right? And it made you a better player. Right? Mid tier +12 with good rolls and proper player knowledge should be enough for pretty much everything. Of course, the run WILL be smoother if the same skilled player had +15, but +15 should be just that. A bonus to make things easier. Not a required part of completing content. Though we all know that the reality will be just as Fleett said. People will ask for +15 BiS perfect rolls and International renowned pro player skill level only. Which means, only like about 30 players in each server will be able to play this instance, at most.
  • ReezReez ✭✭
    Not to mention the doc even says that it's essential to have powerful gear to clear the final stage, so why wouldn't you want to have +15 for the extram dps? lol
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