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Medium Guild Quests!!!

So was starting to do the new guild quest system and the actual dungeons the small guilds have alot of hard modes...... medium guilds have only 4 choices and only 2 are worth considering. and only large guilds can do anything that realy matters....... this has to be one of the worst decisions from enmasse .. why would they not just make it where every guild can do every dungeon as a option like the others. and just change the amount you get based on the amount of runs needed. the larger the guild more dungeon runs you need. Has there been any talk about fixing this because on top of the last online time displaying location now which is also a joke (and will cause guilds to have alot more in inactive and harder to manage). any feedback on this would be great because they said O we arnt going to forget about the smaller guilds and they screwed them up. and they only favor the large guilds atm. GG
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  • edited September 2016
    If I recall correctly what they said last Friday, the quests you get assigned are randomized, so the fact you have a lot of hard modes is probably today's random selection. I think they said there's some way to reset it, but I don't remember the mechanism. Nevermind -- apparently that only applies to rally quests.

    I am guessing the selection BHS made is supposed to be tied to the way they tried to balance the rewards so that small guilds can't advance levels too much more quickly than large guilds, but in practice I don't know if it's really balanced (quite possibly not very well...).
  • I havent seen or heard yet of a way to change the guild assigned quests all i keep hearing is that the rally quest are the only ones that will change daily. and that came from a enmasse employee. other than that I would love to know more because at first glance this is broken as crap
  • I havent seen or heard yet of a way to change the guild assigned quests all i keep hearing is that the rally quest are the only ones that will change daily. and that came from a enmasse employee. other than that I would love to know more because at first glance this is broken as crap

    Yes, I just saw that clarification in the other thread today; I didn't recall that from last Friday's stream.
  • metagamemetagame ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2016
    keep in mind that the quests say to 'defeat' a boss, and not clear the dungeon. if you have a party of 5 consisting of only guild members, and clear a small guild quest that asks you to defeat a boss 5 times, you'll complete it in one run.

    the only benefit larger guilds have over smaller ones is that they're capable of running the same dungeon multiple times at once, making large guild quests quicker to clear. you have 12 hours to do so, though, and even a small guild could complete large scale ones if they were willing.
  • The thing is, our guild is large but not many active people. Now we can't kick because we can't see "last online" too...
    So we're stuck to Large quests, when we have a bunch of not-65s + inactive.
    At least fix the last online, please...
  • Ves1978Ves1978 ✭✭✭✭
    CFXFG3TYWP wrote: »
    The thing is, our guild is large but not many active people. Now we can't kick because we can't see "last online" too...
    So we're stuck to Large quests, when we have a bunch of not-65s + inactive.
    At least fix the last online, please...

    you are not stuck on large quests, you can do medium or small as well.
  • Ves1978Ves1978 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2016
    i'm just curious, yesterday Treeshark or Spacecats said (sorry i'm too lazy to go searching which thread and who said it) that only rally quest will change every day, and rest will be the same every day. my guild is small so we can do only small quests. yesterday we had dfhm, sshm, kdhm and fi quests. after emergency maintenance we got dfnm and cw quests as well. but today after reset we have only dfhm, sshm and fi quests. hope it's a bug and that it will be fixed. also, it's kinda unfair small guilds can't take at least medium quests, cause 15 runs in cw is doable even for 2 man guild. give small guild a chance to progress faster as well.
  • TWMagimayTWMagimay ✭✭✭✭✭
    If I recall correctly what they said last Friday, the quests you get assigned are randomized, so the fact you have a lot of hard modes is probably today's random selection. I think they said there's some way to reset it, but I don't remember the mechanism. Nevermind -- apparently that only applies to rally quests.

    I am guessing the selection BHS made is supposed to be tied to the way they tried to balance the rewards so that small guilds can't advance levels too much more quickly than large guilds, but in practice I don't know if it's really balanced (quite possibly not very well...).

    Where is this coming from? The quests my guild had definitely changed between yesterday and today. The only thing that didn't change, as far as I can tell, were the gathering quests. There is some sort of rotation involved in it, at the very least.
  • I am sick and tired of day after day of dungeon instances we can do not being available in guild quests.
    We can barely get one gathering quest done every three days. It seems that once you do a dungeon, it does not show up again until the third day and this is unbearable.

    Channelworks and Kallivans Challenge only show up once every three days and these are the only ones we can do. Sometimes we can get DFNM done but usually not. Its been a week. We are level three. Is this intended for small PVE guilds to be driven out of the game because you can't get guild buffs, can't get feasible guild quests? It would be more feasible for us to be able to run medium or large quests than the things we get.
    WHEN WILL THERE BE A REAL RESPONSE FROM MODERATORS ON WHETHER GUILD QUESTS NOT REFRESHING WAS INTENDED BEHAVIOR?
  • How do the rally quests work? (sorry offtopic a little but it's to do with guild quests and didn't see point in adding a new topic) in a medium guild and never seen it as quest choice.

    from what i understand the guild quests are there to get rid of smaller guilds as larger guilds get more points of course from large quests and level faster therefore better buffs
  • 3NGT7T939K wrote: »
    from what i understand the guild quests are there to get rid of smaller guilds as larger guilds get more points of course from large quests and level faster therefore better buffs

    On what official documentation do you base this speculation? Please put links to official text when you make such claims. No offense but I am sick to death of there being little to no real information provided by the developer/publisher or even a "Yes this is a bug" "No this is working as intended, and here is the intended exact design". All the community speculation and wild theories are not helpful.

    So Enmasse. Is the reason the Guild Quests don't refresh is that you would rather have the players who dislike large guilds to just leave the game? Because we sure as heck are not going to join the larger guilds we haven't joined since 2012. If so, tell me so that I can spend the real money I make on games with responsive community managers who value the entire active player base no matter how they play.

  • You don't need a large guild to do the quest. It's not EME's or BHS's fault that you don't want to do endgame. And if you don't want to do it, you don't need the guild skills.
  • If you cant clear hard content you shouldn't be rewarded anything close to similarly like if you can.
  • I would like to have to gear to hard dungeons. I have put in plenty of time. Probably more than 10 hours a day for the last three weeks at least, and I have 8 level 65 myself. That doesn't give me (1) the ability to get the single slaughter weapon drop split among 7 people let alone 50 of them to fully enchant +12 (2) same for gloves (3) same for boots (4) same for armor (5) more than two entries in DFNM. The Verge I got on my main refuses to MW after close to 100 scrolls. I used all the scrolls I farmed with all the other 65s. So yes my time should be rewarded with similar rewards for similar effort but it is not. So unless you actually have something useful and official to post about the Guild Quest bug that guilds of all sizes have an issue with, shove off.
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