Revelation Online; you diggin' it?

Bonbonnie

I've been looking into the game, and it honestly looks quite promising. The character customization looks pretty neat and while not being as intuitive as Black Desert's, it's still above the average mmo's customization. The combat, as quoted by TheLazyPeon is "a mix between TERA and Black & Soul," which is good because the lack of action-based mmos is quite lacking. The game has some pretty good cutscences as well and is apparently quite story driven. The big concern is the Chinese version has some pay to win elements and low and behold, my.com is localizing it for western release. My concern with my.com doing it is they are known to not shy away from pay to win. Hopefully the game will deliver an impressive story and good combat, something most games either give one or the other on.

Lisanne

If you need to find more info, i'd recommend checking out Cryy's youtube channel, this guy made alot of revelation online content videos already and overviews. Personally I also have been following RO for a few months and am eager, though due to bns and bdo failing majorly I remain cautious and try to see as much as possible in the closed beta (which is next month) and the open beta to follow.

Yamazuki

The combat is alright, although it is still going to be mainly tab targeted, as even in "action" mode you can't even use abilities on say gunslinger unless you have something actually targeted. Story wise, I have read some of it and it seems interesting. As far as I know, it's based on some book that is done by a good writer, and is even getting its own show. They have a lot of cosmetics/mounts, and even special accessories that can be used while doing nothing.

The main thing I can say after playing the Chinese version is the game runs really well even on max settings in crowded areas. I stayed at the capped 60 fps 100% of the time, with it only dropping if I ever alt tabbed. The game does have some weird issues with alt tabbing in full screen windowed mode.

Lisanne

Hmm yes, the issue lately with some mmo's is having no way of alt tabbing well or windowed mode being completely missing.

SaphirKanzaki

Bonbonnie wrote: »

Hopefully the game will deliver an impressive story and good combat, something most games either give one or the other on.

Blade and Soul (not "Black") has an impressive story. However, after the story there's nothing anymore. It feels like the devs shot all time, money and manpower on the story and forgot to save some for the endgame.

Personally, I could live with some P2W elements as long as it's not going into "big whale" digits (thousands of dollars per month). But I'm a casual only and due to my little free time, it would take me months to level. As far as I've seen, Revelation is more for players with "more free time".

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SaphirKanzaki wrote: »

Bonbonnie wrote: »

Hopefully the game will deliver an impressive story and good combat, something most games either give one or the other on.

Blade and Soul (not "Black") has an impressive story. However, after the story there's nothing anymore. It feels like the devs shot all time, money and manpower on the story and forgot to save some for the endgame.

Personally, I could live with some P2W elements as long as it's not going into "big whale" digits (thousands of dollars per month). But I'm a casual only and due to my little free time, it would take me months to level. As far as I've seen, Revelation is more for players with "more free time".

Actually they have a system in place for those without much time.. The Inn.. http://revelation-online.com/index.php/2016/09/14/hot-springs-inn-gives-players-spa-treatment/

CuteFurryBoy

Truth to be said, Revelation Online is a game that seems to copy ideas from other famous titles. BnS, Tera, Aion, Perfect World, Swordsman Online are just examples. With an exception of having one race and like 6 classes. The only thing that seems unique there is the level of optimization, which seems to be truly amazing in compare to most of games nowadays

Whether the hype remains and RevO (not using the RO acronym because it belongs to the king already - Ragnarok Online) will get a huge player database or the hype will disappear as fast as it appeared the time will show. But there was a few titles already which were so much hyped about and people eventually left them comming back to their old games.

Ariar

I see no problem in copying ideas of other mmos if done right and its fun, my problem simply lies with..its another asian mmo, they all end up the same way... hype->pw2 creeps in->dissapointment->player base shrinks->mostly whales remain.
Just look at BNS, even BDO is slowly crawling that way.

Their ultimate goal is to fish out a bunch of whales that they will suck out as long as possible, while the game will suffer and normal players wont stand a chance to get anywhere by simply playing it.
Plus the players outside their countries are always ignored and showered with all sorts of restrictions, hitting a wall if you dont have a fat wallet or no life.
Revelation isnt going to be any different.

Lisanne

Ariar wrote: »

I see no problem in copying ideas of other mmos if done right and its fun, my problem simply lies with..its another asian mmo, they all end up the same way... hype->pw2 creeps in->dissapointment->player base shrinks->mostly whales remain.
Just look at BNS, even BDO is slowly crawling that way.

Their ultimate goal is to fish out a bunch of whales that they will suck out as long as possible, while the game will suffer and normal players wont stand a chance to get anywhere by simply playing it.
Plus the players outside their countries are always ignored and showered with all sorts of restrictions, hitting a wall if you dont have a fat wallet or no life.
Revelation isnt going to be any different.

You can't say it will be the same until having tried it. False accusations like these kill a game for some people before the beta even arrived. Just wait for closed and open beta, play the game. Is it p2w? Good you were right, now get lost. If it isn't? Stay and see if you enjoy the game. I myself won't care about it to much since .. hey .. 'tera and emp' . I will already like it due to the housing and RP aspects, I just want people to not have this dumb BNS and BDO view. Yes I also am suspicious but at least I'm not badmouthing it before even trying it or having seen actual ingame cashshop items or such. Not to mention ANYONE can exchange ingame currency to cashshop currency to buy those items. Its just a thing of 'who has more time' , which was also a thing in BDO alot so..

tl:dr : give it a chance, don't go super negative , I myself am careful, yet looking forward and will try see to get as much info from the beta. If its bad, we all move on to bless online, Lost Ark or I don't know what other game in the future.

Ariar

Lisanne wrote: »

Ariar wrote: »

I see no problem in copying ideas of other mmos if done right and its fun, my problem simply lies with..its another asian mmo, they all end up the same way... hype->pw2 creeps in->dissapointment->player base shrinks->mostly whales remain.
Just look at BNS, even BDO is slowly crawling that way.

Their ultimate goal is to fish out a bunch of whales that they will suck out as long as possible, while the game will suffer and normal players wont stand a chance to get anywhere by simply playing it.
Plus the players outside their countries are always ignored and showered with all sorts of restrictions, hitting a wall if you dont have a fat wallet or no life.
Revelation isnt going to be any different.

You can't say it will be the same until having tried it. False accusations like these kill a game for some people before the beta even arrived. Just wait for closed and open beta, play the game. Is it p2w? Good you were right, now get lost. If it isn't? Stay and see if you enjoy the game. I myself won't care about it to much since .. hey .. 'tera and emp' . I will already like it due to the housing and RP aspects, I just want people to not have this dumb BNS and BDO view. Yes I also am suspicious but at least I'm not badmouthing it before even trying it or having seen actual ingame cashshop items or such. Not to mention ANYONE can exchange ingame currency to cashshop currency to buy those items. Its just a thing of 'who has more time' , which was also a thing in BDO alot so..

tl:dr : give it a chance, don't go super negative , I myself am careful, yet looking forward and will try see to get as much info from the beta. If its bad, we all move on to bless online, Lost Ark or I don't know what other game in the future.

Nah no accusations here, just a simple observation and some years of experiencing this over and over.
I would like to find an mmo to call home instead of being like a nomad wandering from one to another and making these hype topics every year.

Lisanne

I also got experience and experienced how archeage, bns and bdo went down.. Its just a great game but bad publishers behind it sadly. Revelation copies alot of good aspects and yes it won't appeal to everyone, I'm gonna give it a chance, I got nothing to lose. I see it getting hyped by others for what it offers, but until you experienced it yourself I can see why you're suspicious and doubtful.

We'll see by the end of next month whether or not it got overhyped so until then .. just try find a place to call home and try it out.

Ariar

Lisanne wrote: »

I also got experience and experienced how archeage, bns and bdo went down.. Its just a great game but bad publishers behind it sadly. Revelation copies alot of good aspects and yes it won't appeal to everyone, I'm gonna give it a chance, I got nothing to lose. I see it getting hyped by others for what it offers, but until you experienced it yourself I can see why you're suspicious and doubtful.

We'll see by the end of next month whether or not it got overhyped so until then .. just try find a place to call home and try it out.

Indeed, it all depends on the publisher...even if the game is awesome if the publisher sucks it will get destroyed by bad decisions like we seen so many times.
I have'nt cought a glimpse of wich publisher will bring Revelation to NA/EU, but i dont have any hopes honestly.

I like the idea it copies stuff from other games...it does'nt necessaryly has to be original if the stuff we seen in many mmos works, it can be fun.
Honestly i dont understand why many mmos dont do this more often, instead of becoming a niche or being limited to one idea, why not have more of the stuff that works in other mmos.

Watched this vid talking about impressions of the game, wich seem to be positive, though its being mentioned that the cash shop is slightly p2w.

I know its not fair to judge a game before its released, but been there seen that so many times, hard to stay positive.
For now Tera is my "home", well partially atleast, because i feel i would like to try something else, but all of these mmos end up the same way.

If BHS stoped with this infinite gear cycle rubbish and done something with the world and filled it with fun stuff, Tera would be ideal.

Lisanne

The publisher will be My.com (yes , not a great publisher but we'll see..) as for cashshop, yes there is probably some stuff in it to get things faster like exp boosts or so. Nothing that I know for sure, also if you saw earlier and if you look around a bit, the game allows ingame currency -> shop currency , so that nothing is behind a barrier for you to get, not sure how hard this ratio is gonna be but we still know little bout this mmo.

Catorii

I dunno...I don't really understand why developers aren't understanding that full action combat like TERA has (not quasi tab target action combat like BnS, GW2, Wildstar, etc have) is a large part of what makes people keep playing this game. Every time I try another of these, I get disappointed because the combat just doesn't match up. Even ignoring the tab target nature of BnS, the dodge system was still incredibly clunky and not fluid - that's a major gamebreaker for me, because it's so smooth in TERA. From what I've heard, Revelation uses a system similar to BnS for its "action combat" setting - it's action combat, but still targets things. Remains to be seen how clunky or smooth it is, though. Might not be bad if it doesn't "lock" onto the target like BnS does and pretty much throw aiming out the window.

There's also the issue of, as mentioned by others, the publisher having a good chance at ruining the game. My.com is not known for being particularly non-p2w. EME, however, has always remained pretty balanced in that aspect, up until the P2W dinosaur fiasco. I guess we'll see how My handles that game, and how fluid the combat feels. I'm pretty excited that we finally have a potential "action" MMO that keeps the classic trinity intact, whether or not it turns out to be any good. The trend GW2 caused for MMOs to not include healers has been pretty infuriating for those of us that like maining them. I have hope for this one so far despite its publisher. ._.

Ilythien

Revelation online can be tab-target or action. The problem here is you will have to do pvp on tab-target mode or you will be on disadvantage.

vkobe

they dont have cute elin