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  • LesbianViLesbianVi ✭✭✭✭✭
    About Tera's leveling, when it started, it was so damn hard and very very good, you started on IOD, and you had to prove yourself, oh God I miss the starter video when you were on a Pegasus and a Baraka was leading. This new start is [filtered] compare to what it was. It takes hours of writing to get to bottom of story and leveling.

    But as of new players. Get to level 65 1st, then get back and do all the quests and see the story line. that works better.
  • Yeah, the start on IoD was nice.

    Fun fact: the whole game still thinks you started on IoD regardless. And I'm not talking about Dougal (Douglas?) falsifying some documents, I'm talking about the Gods foreseeing your actions and inscribing them for all to see. Those still reference IoD.
  • SoonshiLSoonshiL
    edited November 2016
    This game is different other MMO's when you play you skip all the scenes and the NPC talk and keep presing enter.

    The story is very simple and has very little to do with the game and how you play. Basicly tera has a dull story line. Just play the game.

    Have Fun! ^ ^
  • ............rip old iod is best

    stepstone island .............. meh

    you lose lore and dont retunrd anymore, dont suprise about you experience ..
  • The original Island of Dawn was good and the look was nice. Paired with the original prologue, it was a nice fit. But the way they streamlined the questing on Island of Dawn over the years really wasn't very good, and Stepstone is better from that point of view (size of the map better suits the expected duration of the tutorial; more emphasis on teaching combat essentials; more tightly-focused story).
    Fun fact: the whole game still thinks you started on IoD regardless. And I'm not talking about Dougal (Douglas?) falsifying some documents, I'm talking about the Gods foreseeing your actions and inscribing them for all to see. Those still reference IoD.
    Because of the way the twist was written, you could argue that the Gods foresaw the necessary deception and so inscribed the actions they foresaw others would need to see to be consistent with your story. Of course, practically speaking, this convenient excuse means they didn't have to branch out the whole rest of the game into two paths for old/new players, which is the real reason.
  • skimmed but Tera too lazy to revamp lvl

    NA gamers always [filtered] about its the journey yet praise SP fps 4hr campaign so no don't excuse me BS
    Gamers don't care about that anymore and its why Indie exists

    Gamers nowadays want instant gratification
    In many F2P games its blocked by a paw wall of some kind the new norm.

  • MiskaMiska
    edited November 2016
    Borsuc wrote: »
    Spend on what? XP boosts? Elite? So you can level even faster? Or skip the majority of it outright from the shop? Don't kid yourself, people like you spend absolutely zero and they know it.

    Why are you even playing a game like this? All MMOs are horrible in respect to stories and player interaction with the story (choices you know), plus bad overall immersion, period. There's so many good quality games focused on stories (real RPGs and adventure games etc), I'm baffled why you even expect something from a MMO's story when it has zero choices and not even voice acting or more to do with immersion these days.

    Unless you only play it cause you're too poor to afford a real story-driven game and play this cause it's f2p, but then you shot yourself in the foot with the paying argument, so yeah.

    I am surprised you mentioned that I am "poor" and cant afford a real story driven game, so says the person who also plays a f2p game. Thanks for being concerned with my financial situation, which I am far from poor. Already done my christmas shopping, got my rsp maxed for this tax period, cell phone is paid off, credit card paid off, have a good sum in my bank account. Yup, so poor I have to play a f2p game. Maybe I should unsub from FFXIV and stop spending money on SWTOR, and stop paying for music, stop buying movies and tv shows, stop buying my kids clothes, stop buying food because I am playing a f2p MMO.

    What a sad arguement you have there. Got any other points of views? As for Stories in MMO's, since the end of Vanilla WoW the story got interesting, but at the end of Wrath when they destroyed tanking IMO, haven't played WoW Since. SWTOR has really good stories that, although I found the Bounty Hunter to be a somewhat weak story, it still kept me entertained and playing, the other classes have good stories behind them. As for Voice Acting, SWTOR again has a LOT of voice acting, FFXIV has a good amount of Voice Acting, even WoW has some voice acting, but since I haven't played that since the end of Wrath, I can't comment on what came after, but from what a few of my friends say, there is some voice acting but in cinematics.

    So your logic on voice acting is already flawed. Tera has voice acting, in cinematics. But thing is, in SWTOR, and FFXIV I can still do my story quests in the dungeons as they arise, even when I have outleveled them. I just have to work a bit more to get them but at least I don't have to Solo them or Carry People.

    So tell me, how am I poor just because I play the same f2p game that you are playing?


    Edit:
    5H96Y49G6D wrote: »
    skimmed but Tera too lazy to revamp lvl

    NA gamers always [filtered] about its the journey yet praise SP fps 4hr campaign so no don't excuse me BS
    Gamers don't care about that anymore and its why Indie exists

    Gamers nowadays want instant gratification
    In many F2P games its blocked by a paw wall of some kind the new norm.

    SP?
  • Miska wrote: »
    Borsuc wrote: »
    Spend on what? XP boosts? Elite? So you can level even faster? Or skip the majority of it outright from the shop? Don't kid yourself, people like you spend absolutely zero and they know it.

    Why are you even playing a game like this? All MMOs are horrible in respect to stories and player interaction with the story (choices you know), plus bad overall immersion, period. There's so many good quality games focused on stories (real RPGs and adventure games etc), I'm baffled why you even expect something from a MMO's story when it has zero choices and not even voice acting or more to do with immersion these days.

    Unless you only play it cause you're too poor to afford a real story-driven game and play this cause it's f2p, but then you shot yourself in the foot with the paying argument, so yeah.

    I am surprised you mentioned that I am "poor" and cant afford a real story driven game, so says the person who also plays a f2p game. Thanks for being concerned with my financial situation, which I am far from poor. Already done my christmas shopping, got my rsp maxed for this tax period, cell phone is paid off, credit card paid off, have a good sum in my bank account. Yup, so poor I have to play a f2p game. Maybe I should unsub from FFXIV and stop spending money on SWTOR, and stop paying for music, stop buying movies and tv shows, stop buying my kids clothes, stop buying food because I am playing a f2p MMO.

    Borsuc just got owned so hard :awesome: :+1:
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    StaceyFin wrote: »
    Miska wrote: »
    Borsuc wrote: »
    Spend on what? XP boosts? Elite? So you can level even faster? Or skip the majority of it outright from the shop? Don't kid yourself, people like you spend absolutely zero and they know it.

    Why are you even playing a game like this? All MMOs are horrible in respect to stories and player interaction with the story (choices you know), plus bad overall immersion, period. There's so many good quality games focused on stories (real RPGs and adventure games etc), I'm baffled why you even expect something from a MMO's story when it has zero choices and not even voice acting or more to do with immersion these days.

    Unless you only play it cause you're too poor to afford a real story-driven game and play this cause it's f2p, but then you shot yourself in the foot with the paying argument, so yeah.

    I am surprised you mentioned that I am "poor" and cant afford a real story driven game, so says the person who also plays a f2p game. Thanks for being concerned with my financial situation, which I am far from poor. Already done my christmas shopping, got my rsp maxed for this tax period, cell phone is paid off, credit card paid off, have a good sum in my bank account. Yup, so poor I have to play a f2p game. Maybe I should unsub from FFXIV and stop spending money on SWTOR, and stop paying for music, stop buying movies and tv shows, stop buying my kids clothes, stop buying food because I am playing a f2p MMO.

    Borsuc just got owned so hard :awesome: :+1:

    Not really, since he does have a point. People who care about story and such aren't really going to be spending money on Tera while leveling. Most of the cosmetics don't fit with the story (which is where they some of their money...), they aren't going to be buying a level 60 scroll, no experience boosts, and no Elite Status (due to the 100% exp). Standard MMORPGs really are a bad place to expect these sorts of things since they generally aren't thought out as much, and even if they are, it's only at the start. Eventually they get to a point where new content starts clashing with the story and things stop making sense as well. I'm also not sure if Koreans comment as much about Lore either, as from what I have seen, it's mostly a Western and in some cases a Chinese thing to care about lore and immersion.

    His statement was also more of a hypothetical and not an accusation anyways, it was just taken the wrong way for what ever reason.
  • Yamazuki wrote: »

    Not really, since he does have a point. People who care about story and such aren't really going to be spending money on Tera while leveling. Most of the cosmetics don't fit with the story (which is where they some of their money...), they aren't going to be buying a level 60 scroll, no experience boosts, and no Elite Status (due to the 100% exp). Standard MMORPGs really are a bad place to expect these sorts of things since they generally aren't thought out as much, and even if they are, it's only at the start. Eventually they get to a point where new content starts clashing with the story and things stop making sense as well. I'm also not sure if Koreans comment as much about Lore either, as from what I have seen, it's mostly a Western and in some cases a Chinese thing to care about lore and immersion.

    His statement was also more of a hypothetical and not an accusation anyways, it was just taken the wrong way for what ever reason.

    was being supportive to your cause T_T
  • BorsucBorsuc ✭✭✭
    Miska wrote: »
    What a sad arguement you have there.
    Yours doesn't even exist, resorting to strawman arguments is all you can do.
    Miska wrote: »
    I am surprised you mentioned that I am "poor" and cant afford a real story driven game, so says the person who also plays a f2p game. Thanks for being concerned with my financial situation, which I am far from poor. Already done my christmas shopping, got my rsp maxed for this tax period, cell phone is paid off, credit card paid off, have a good sum in my bank account. Yup, so poor I have to play a f2p game. Maybe I should unsub from FFXIV and stop spending money on SWTOR, and stop paying for music, stop buying movies and tv shows, stop buying my kids clothes, stop buying food because I am playing a f2p MMO.
    When did I say you are poor? For the record, I'm not going back on my word, here is EXACTLY what I said in respect to that (i.e actual quote = FACT):
    Borsuc wrote: »
    Unless you only play it cause you're too poor to afford a real story-driven game and play this cause it's f2p, but then you shot yourself in the foot with the paying argument, so yeah.
    Do you know basic english? Here let me help you:

    http://www.dictionary.com/browse/unless?s=t
    conjunction
    1.
    except under the circumstances that:
    I'll be there at nine, unless the train is late.

    So let's rephrase it. Under the circumstances that you play it only because you're too poor to afford a real story-driven [...]

    So when did I say you are poor? That was a condition. You know, I broke your entire argument on a case-by-case basis. I'm not interested in verbose nonsense, pure logic is what I use. Basically, here's the cases:

    Case 1: You are not poor and can afford to spend money on games. In this case, the whole post except the last paragraph, what would you spend it on? To level even faster? Please, you wouldn't spend on anything other than costumes, which also break the story since most costumes are not lore friendly and that is a fact. They won't improve the story anyway and people who like lore and stuff always use ingame armor and looks to role play.

    Plus, if you do indeed have money to spend on games, why play this game for the story? Go spend it on a real story-driven game, you will be happier and fulfilled in this regard. You will feel much better immersion and a real quality game, where your choices can impact the world too. The game will feel "alive". Note that I'm not saying this to belittle you. I do that myself, I'm a fan of real RPGs focused on story (not MMOs though) with great stories so I know what I'm talking about because I like them and play them.

    I don't play this game for the story and never will, or any MMO for that matter, unless they are absolutely innovative because every single MMO is garbage in the story and yes, that's a fact after playing a REAL RPG. People who don't won't understand of course because they haven't experienced just how good real immersive games are.

    Case 2: You are too poor to afford to pay for a game (and I never said it's a bad thing, for the record), so you play this game because it's f2p. But in this case, your entire paying argument (the part I replied to, you know?) goes out the window. It's as simple as that.


    So in both cases, your argument doesn't make sense (see what I quoted the first time), and that is how you argue properly, not with strawman and other bs.



    Now why did I have to be so verbose when my previous post should have been clear from the start? Seriously.
  • AulonAulon ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2016
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    StaceyFin wrote: »
    Miska wrote: »
    Borsuc wrote: »
    Spend on what? XP boosts? Elite? So you can level even faster? Or skip the majority of it outright from the shop? Don't kid yourself, people like you spend absolutely zero and they know it.

    Why are you even playing a game like this? All MMOs are horrible in respect to stories and player interaction with the story (choices you know), plus bad overall immersion, period. There's so many good quality games focused on stories (real RPGs and adventure games etc), I'm baffled why you even expect something from a MMO's story when it has zero choices and not even voice acting or more to do with immersion these days.

    Unless you only play it cause you're too poor to afford a real story-driven game and play this cause it's f2p, but then you shot yourself in the foot with the paying argument, so yeah.

    I am surprised you mentioned that I am "poor" and cant afford a real story driven game, so says the person who also plays a f2p game. Thanks for being concerned with my financial situation, which I am far from poor. Already done my christmas shopping, got my rsp maxed for this tax period, cell phone is paid off, credit card paid off, have a good sum in my bank account. Yup, so poor I have to play a f2p game. Maybe I should unsub from FFXIV and stop spending money on SWTOR, and stop paying for music, stop buying movies and tv shows, stop buying my kids clothes, stop buying food because I am playing a f2p MMO.

    Borsuc just got owned so hard :awesome: :+1:

    Not really, since he does have a point. People who care about story and such aren't really going to be spending money on Tera while leveling. Most of the cosmetics don't fit with the story (which is where they some of their money...), they aren't going to be buying a level 60 scroll, no experience boosts, and no Elite Status (due to the 100% exp). Standard MMORPGs really are a bad place to expect these sorts of things since they generally aren't thought out as much, and even if they are, it's only at the start. Eventually they get to a point where new content starts clashing with the story and things stop making sense as well. I'm also not sure if Koreans comment as much about Lore either, as from what I have seen, it's mostly a Western and in some cases a Chinese thing to care about lore and immersion.

    This is a false claim, RPers whom follow the story line are also ones that (and no I am not pulling this out of the air and no it is not a means to serve myself but over a decade of experience playing MMOs and being around RPers)

    -Buy EMP to sell so they can buy gear
    -Buy Mounts for each alt that matches the idea they have in which their character would fit into the story
    -Buy Elite because they feel like they have become engulfed into the story/world
    -ect ect ect

    TERA did start off heavily invested in the story,

    -Short stories published on fans sites as well as Amazon
    -Very detailed time line that lead up to release
    -Detailed race histories (See High Elf, Amani and Castanic)
    -Promo for example the dairy of Ellion that lead to him being on IoD that was on En Masse FB page long ago
    -Story in game and how quest gave hints of the lore in the zones

    the base lore and story line is complex but the call was made that it was not worth the investment. So it stopped growing and TERA has become a lot less diverse, for good or bad or indifferent.

    Take some time and get to understand those who you speak for please
  • BorsucBorsuc ✭✭✭
    You speak of ancient times. TERA wasn't even f2p back then so obviously we're talking about different types of monetization here.
  • AulonAulon ✭✭✭✭
    Borsuc wrote: »
    You speak of ancient times. TERA wasn't even f2p back then so obviously we're talking about different types of monetization here.

    Ancient times are over a 100 years ago, please try to be a little less extreme
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