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I'd prefer people to say that they simply don't enjoy the game's current PvP selection rather than opting for a generic finger pointing routine. You can't both enjoy the fundamentals and/or the concepts of TERA PvP and simultaneously opt-out of content citing the community as the reason its dead.
people seem to think it's the end of the world if you feel defeated. im willing to bet that manifest has lost more fights than any other guild on MT combined. If you enjoy PvP, youll keep going against any odds.
Oh, right. It's because they're afraid of losing and do everything they can to avoid it. Manifest doesn't want good fights. They only want fights they can win.
By the way, this is coming from someone who hasn't been in a guild for years now and has nothing to do with Civil Unrest, so you'll have to do better than "we won, you lost, cry more".
Why should they disband and dissolve into other guilds? It's not down to them to teach you suckers how to fight and such. At the end of the day it's always been easier for you guys to give up than it has been for you to have a bloody good scrap.
You can blame the high tier guilds all you like. Be they sponsored by a rich kid or just be simply better than you are. At the end of the day CU won't get any better if guilds keep sucking each other off so the top stay on top.
I've been guildless for sometime because I simply don't agree with allying your guild to another just so you can have an easier time. If you wanna have a good fight. Step up to the challenge, don't back out like a coward.
Because we can be proper human beings. Most guilds from the Anti-Manifest alliance stopped participating after the third CU. We had asked these people to be our allies and you want us to throw them in the trash now that we don't need them because the other alliance felt CU wasn't worth it?
the uninitiated will cling to anything that is remotely close to justifying their hurt feelings.
That's anti-competitive and anti-fun. Why have allies at all? Go in as a guild, fight everyone you see, and have fun. When you start blue balling the only guilds in the game that pose a threat to you, you're breaking PvP more than BHS ever did.
Manifest claims to have the best players in the game. You guys all have end-game gear and quite a lot of gold in your coffers, so it shouldn't matter if you lose CU. Yet you still do whatever you can to make sure you win.
So you either know you're not the best or you're too afraid to find out.
"They're breaking PvP, so we're going to break PvP too." Not something an elite group would say.
youre the only one citing quotes that were never said. alliances arent the reason why PvP is dead.
we're actually so far down the excuse ladder that people are blaming manifest for retaliating for the sake of competitive PvP. using your cranium, do you really think that a guild of 70 people can feasibly fight 150+ people that are attacking from every angle, relentlessly, for two hours? the noble thing to do is handicap yourself because youre the "rank 1 guild", disregarding the competitive drive to win?
Is manifest an unbeatable god, or are they trash? pick one, your theories cant involve us being both.
I'm a Slayer, I know I can't beat Reapers. But I still try, and if I lose, I lose. I don't call in other people to help me, I don't reroll to a class I know can win. I just play the class I have, no matter the disadvantage it puts me at, and I accept whatever happens.
I still go to VO to duel people. That's a fairly competitive scene. I'll even duel the people I know can beat me. Why? Because it's PvP and it's fun. I'm comfortable with my skill level and don't need to do whatever I can do win every fight I have.
Apparently Manifest doesn't feel the same. They do whatever they can do to win a fight, despite saying they're the best. If they were as skilled as they say they are, they'd rely on skill more than numbers, and fight 150+ people with only 70 of their own -- even if it means they could lose.
every group of competitive players do whatever they can to win, excluding cheating. why is it that, in your mind, manifest is demonized for striving to win, while other groups are glorified for striving to win?
your argument also implies you think we'd chose not to fight given a disadvantage, which is again untrue. Search for manifest tera gvg on youtube, im sure youll find dozens of videos of us losing in various situations.
I'm holding Manifest to a higher standard because they claim to be the best. If they come out and say, "no bro, we're [filtered] tier garbage," then alright.
Why do you need allies to ensure victory if you're comfortable with losing? If you already have the best players in the game, all with end-game gear, why do you need to form up an alliance to win CU? You don't need Ambush boxes or gold, so why not just shed all your allies and fight outnumbered?
being comfortable with losing =/= wanting to lose.
youre making it much more complex for yourself to understand. competitive guilds do what they can do win. just because we will fight at a disadvantage doesn't mean were going to seek that situation because its convenient for you.
Being comfortable with losing =/= doing everything in your power to win.
Competitive guilds do what they can to win, but in using others as meat shields they lose legitimacy to claim they're elite or earned a win. It has nothing to with seeking to fight at a disadvantage and more to do with not going out of your way to break PvP simply because others do the same.
Convenient for me? I don't participate in CU. I'm not even in a guild.