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Pamcake · December 2016

So far I can say that I'm too weak against elitist and in a sense that they bully me. While I have +12 gear with good stats and half unbreakable crystals. Gaming is something I'm not great at and I need a time to get used to. I can't even get into top hard dungeons, because I don't have experience in them. But how in the hell I can get experience if nobody wants me to take there. This game is becoming either you're are amazing with +15 gear or you're nothing. Crafting is dead and that's out the window of things I would like to do. Battlegrounds is something I can deal with and have some form of enjoyment, but I'm the only one from guild that goes. Tera isn't complicated, but damn I'm so weak when people take it so serious and don't even care about new players or people how need practice.

FinalArchon · December 2016

#1: +15 doesn't automatically mean you're good.
#2: As I mention before, people not willing to take you also doesn't mean they are bullying you. It's their group, and sadly, they get to decide who gets to join. Don't like it? Make your own group, meet similar minded people, and organize your own training run into hard mode dungeons. There are no rules anywhere that says skilled players have to take you and teach you.
#3: Just because they don't want to take you or train you for whatever reason doesn't make them elitist.

Also, If you're having trouble, try posting screenshots of your gear and rolls so we can take a look and see if there's anything wrong with it.

Pamcake · December 2016

I get if people don't want to take me, because too busy to grind 100 times again the same dungeon. It so often if I don't do okay enough I'm being called out and I do apologize, but nobody cares. And it's probobly just me who's unable to play gunner aka the easiest class in game.

FinalArchon · December 2016

On first glance, your rolls aren't that bad. Having that said, if you want perfect rolls, then I'll suggest this:

1: There are 2 versions of the Manor and Estate Jewelries, one is -guest, the other -borne. The -borne is of better quality, although they are unique so you can only equip one of the piece: for example, 1 manorborne ring, 1 manorborne earring, 1 estateborne ring, and 1 estateborne earring. Currently you're using the weaker version of the jewelries, so that's one area you can improved on.

2: Rolls on your jewelry. Usually for a DPS, the perfect rolls for jewelries should be 4%hp and 4 Endurance for earrings, rings are 4 power and 4 crit.

3: Necklace roll should be 4 power. And most DPS usually use the Manor version for more crit. Not too sure if gunner is the same, I haven't touch my gunner in the longest time.

4: Your chest roll for knockdown damage should be replaced with reduce damage from enraged monster, this roll helps a lot in instances.

5: Also Carving crystals are kinda pointless once you stack enough crits, at some point you'll want to swap to a pounding crystal.

All of these things are pretty minor and more of a min/max issue (with the exception of your chest roll), so you can slowly work on that. I am assuming you're trying to learn LKHM and RMHM? What server are you on?

Pamcake · December 2016

Thanks for suggestions and feedback. I'm on Tempest Reach. Yeah, it's true I'm trying to learn RMNM and HM.

xvct · December 2016

Ouch, you picked a bad patch for PVE Gunner. Oh well, if you stick with it, the tides come in and out for all classes soon enough. In general, find people on the same learning curve as you, and you'll have an easier time learning together. If you find someone nice and friendly that you've ran with, send them a friend request right after you clear the dungeon. Networking is a big part of enjoying and staying with this game.

Best English guide for RMNM/HM: https://sites.google.com/site/yoshasstuff/ruinousmanorguide
A random Gunner POV vid I found for RMHM:

I find it great to study your class POV for specific dungeons, because you can calmly study both the good and the bad moves that person makes, and study the boss's patterns without the stress and panic that comes with actually running the dungeon yourself.

So do both. Run RMNM a couple times, then return to the video for a review study. Find and skim more Gunner videos for the specific dungeon and see if you can't pick up any cool tricks.

Pamcake · December 2016

I stared gunner about two months ago or so. Before that I had sorcerer. Sorcerer is a bit tricky to learn (for me), but now I'm debating to switch back to sorcerer. Gunners have become one of the weakest dps classes atm. I have watched dungeons run to so that at least have idea what to do. Anyway, thank you for recommendations.

Catservant · December 2016

With the changes to Sorcerer it is much easier to play. Quicker and more fun than my poor gunner right now.

Yamazuki · December 2016

Would have to say your class probably has more weight than your gear for some groups. There are people in Guile that get into RMHM, but they are Lancers/Sorcs/Archers/Ninjas. Generally anything else only gets in if they're friends/skilled. There's also training runs throughout the day you could join, or start your own. It's a little unfair to expect people who already experienced the couple hours of wiping to potentially do that again with someone they don't know, and for free.

dinners · December 2016

Pamcake wrote: »

So far I can say that I'm too weak against elitist and in a sense that they bully me. While I have +12 gear with good stats and half unbreakable crystals. Gaming is something I'm not great at and I need a time to get used to. I can't even get into top hard dungeons, because I don't have experience in them. But how in the [filtered] I can get experience if nobody wants me to take there. This game is becoming either you're are amazing with +15 gear or you're nothing. Crafting is dead and that's out the window of things I would like to do. Battlegrounds is something I can deal with and have some form of enjoyment, but I'm the only one from guild that goes. Tera isn't complicated, but [filtered] I'm so weak when people take it so serious and don't even care about new players or people how need practice.

1. Try IM hard mode first. You can try SSHM, SCHM, RMNM, and LKHM IM for 1~2 times. These dungeons are not too hard for IM. Don't require +15. Me and my friend brawler, we do IM/ guild run these dungeons almost everyday. +12 is good enough for this.
2. PUG RMHM normally, take 2 healers. So, they want strong +15 dps or revamped +12 archer. Otherwise, it takes longer to clear it. It's not really hard, but Boss HP is just too high and annoying for +12.
3. You can make alt tank/ heal class. People don't kick or ignore +12 heals and tank. We need more tank.
4. Even, I said, +12 is good enough for most of pve. It's true that, there is too much dps diff/ between +12 and +15 weap and glove.

Dan0487 · December 2016

Pamcake wrote: »

So far I can say that I'm too weak against elitist and in a sense that they bully me. While I have +12 gear with good stats and half unbreakable crystals. Gaming is something I'm not great at and I need a time to get used to. I can't even get into top hard dungeons, because I don't have experience in them. But how in the [filtered] I can get experience if nobody wants me to take there. This game is becoming either you're are amazing with +15 gear or you're nothing. Crafting is dead and that's out the window of things I would like to do. Battlegrounds is something I can deal with and have some form of enjoyment, but I'm the only one from guild that goes. Tera isn't complicated, but [filtered] I'm so weak when people take it so serious and don't even care about new players or people how need practice.

people are very bad at this game and this patch atm you cannot reset instances you are a unknown it is not fun wiping due to one person
its their group do not complain and try to be the victim enough people do that and makes you look like a child

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