Plans for BGs once December is over?

13lackBlood · January 2017

This topic being revived almost each week lol.... they need to make equalized and unequalized versions of each battlegrounds (excluding tanks and kumas) to bring back interest in pvp, along with actual rewards worth playing towards. That most likely will never happen as Tera claimed by BHS is a pve focused game and loves to [filtered] on the pvper's since and i hate to use this word but..... are the minority in the game.

counterpoint · January 2017

13lackBlood wrote: »

This topic being revived almost each week lol.... they need to make equalized and unequalized versions of each battlegrounds (excluding tanks and kumas) to bring back interest in pvp, along with actual rewards worth playing towards. That most likely will never happen as Tera claimed by BHS is a pve focused game and loves to [filtered] on the pvper's since and i hate to use this word but..... are the minority in the game.

If they make both versions of each battleground, the only result will be splitting the queues so that it's longer everywhere. So I'm not sure if that's the real fix.

I think the bigger issue is that people would not hate equalized BGs so much if not for the fact that the equalized gear is not very good. If they at least made it so the equalized gear was equivalent to BiS with proper rolls, people likely would not complain about it as much.

13lackBlood · January 2017

With proper rewards and those wanting to use their hard earned pvp gear to queue for unequalized version of each BG, i don't think the queue's would be bad if not decent to what it was before the equalized patch hit. Also there is never just only one result to changes as there are multiple, for example if there were longer queues that is a common issue even now, but another if one version gave better rewards or certain group of players being elitist, or doing gear checks on people and kicking them if they find them unqualified. They could improvise a rank system in the game to pair players with other players with matching ELO rating. Of course that would have major rework on the system they have now and isn't really a possible outlook for BHS, it'd be better to do the console tera shift and see whether they can rework PC tera from that project.

Pamcake · January 2017

Though, it takes me less time to wait for BG's q than dungeon as a dps.

Deleted User · January 2017

Please do something to Frywind and CS really wanna play some Bgs

Koikoi · January 2017

Vysse wrote: »

I cannot say anything other then based off what I know it sounds like the power hours might be a more frequent thing. I am sure @Spacecats or @Noesis can give some clarity to this topic when they come in on Tuesday.

Power hours is not a fix, it's a band aid solution. "Power Hours" were also only for december, and ended yesterday with no update yet as to what we can expect for January.

BGs still do not pop as frequent as before the SB patch even with the vm8 mat jackpots and double credits.

Fleett wrote: »

@Pamcake Just because you're fine with it does not mean everyone else is too. Some people get op gear and they want to utilize it on at least one bg, and that bg was always fwc since 3's(team) has always been dead.

Exactly this. The community has spoke out quite loudly against FWC being EQ (or at least not having 2 versions). A lot of people work hard for their gear, let us use it.

Roly · January 2017

The only reason why BGs are completely dead is because PVE servers don't give a [filtered] grind PVP arenas cuz they can get the same item [filtered] in PVE content there aren't any unique item in Belli and KS Store that oblige you to grind arenas for points to get that hypothetical item.

Sylviette · January 2017

The PvP community is really small, and if you want BGs to pop more often you have to lure in PvE players. Unequalized FWC will only push them away, since nobody wants to be a dead weight with their pve gear. If you want pure PvP experience with your hard earned gear, queue 3s. CS and FWC are mostly zerg fest, spamming skills on top of gigas doesn't make you a better PvPer. If you just want to feel powerful and stomp other people without retaliation because of the gear difference, join Manifest and do CU.

Simple fix to BGs not popping: fix the dam equalized gears (for PvPers), and add better reward (for PvEers). Even without unique rewards it will still help BGs pop a lot more, since not everyone want to farm IoD all day everyday for fs. Make fs/alkahest jackpot permanent and increase the amount to encourage PvE players while prevent multi client botting at the same time (instead of adding them into BG store)

Cutechan · January 2017

Soooooooooo, unequalized fwc when?

Vysse · January 2017

Koikoi wrote: »

Vysse wrote: »

I cannot say anything other then based off what I know it sounds like the power hours might be a more frequent thing. I am sure @Spacecats or @Noesis can give some clarity to this topic when they come in on Tuesday.

Power hours is not a fix, it's a band aid solution. "Power Hours" were also only for december, and ended yesterday with no update yet as to what we can expect for January.

BGs still do not pop as frequent as before the SB patch even with the vm8 mat jackpots and double credits.

Fleett wrote: »

@Pamcake Just because you're fine with it does not mean everyone else is too. Some people get op gear and they want to utilize it on at least one bg, and that bg was always fwc since 3's(team) has always been dead.

Exactly this. The community has spoke out quite loudly against FWC being EQ (or at least not having 2 versions). A lot of people work hard for their gear, let us use it.

Then talk to BHS. EME is doing what they can.

Mistruss · January 2017

I don't think the PvP community is smaller than the PvE community, I think they're about the same in size.
However, there's just no more reason to run PvP content in Tera.

In the distant past we had a leaderboard where we could see the rankings of players from our own server and other servers.
I would love logging on each day to see myself top 10 in 3s and brag about my 500/0/1000 KDA in Corsairs like a scumbag.

Remember Bloodrave? You only got the best PvP gear by getting far in 3s.
Remember Murderous Intent? You got to turn smoky black with glowy whoawy eyes for being top 100. Much wow!

Sure, earning a lot of credits for playing a BG would help boost the activity in PvP, but that's not the only reason you can give players to play PvP.

Give them leader boards to stroke their epeen. Give them super cool elitist PvP gear for reaching crazy milestones. Anyone want to be edglord2529? Just be top 100 in 3s or something.

MMOs are a business and when you look at the numbers for DAU & PT and notice that PvE dominates PvP, it's because there's no reason to PvP.

Leader boards are a reason and so is giving players an edgy effect.

It's honestly an uphill battle, EME.
Trying to prove that doing all this will increase the PT for PvP when the numbers don't already exist is a nightmare.

Dunno if that's the fight you guys are fighting over there, but godbless.

FaytEsteem · January 2017

Or just raise the credits back, and lower the costs of some mats in the killing spree shop and bellicarium shop just like they did with Starfall & Imperator and BG's will be popular again.

Koikoi · January 2017

Vysse wrote: »

Koikoi wrote: »

Vysse wrote: »

I cannot say anything other then based off what I know it sounds like the power hours might be a more frequent thing. I am sure @Spacecats or @Noesis can give some clarity to this topic when they come in on Tuesday.

Power hours is not a fix, it's a band aid solution. "Power Hours" were also only for december, and ended yesterday with no update yet as to what we can expect for January.

BGs still do not pop as frequent as before the SB patch even with the vm8 mat jackpots and double credits.

Fleett wrote: »

@Pamcake Just because you're fine with it does not mean everyone else is too. Some people get op gear and they want to utilize it on at least one bg, and that bg was always fwc since 3's(team) has always been dead.

Exactly this. The community has spoke out quite loudly against FWC being EQ (or at least not having 2 versions). A lot of people work hard for their gear, let us use it.

Then talk to BHS. EME is doing what they can.

As most games each region has a different playbase. I would tend to say NA TERA has more PvPers than Ktera, therefore EME needs to push OUR wants on KTERA for a separate build if need be. We still have a 3 month delay between KTERA and NA TERA that should be more than enough time to work out kinks in a separate build.

What the community has expressed for changes in grid, fwc and cs are not big or difficult to implement in any case.

LancerJiva · January 2017

Roly wrote: »

The only reason why BGs are completely dead is because PVE servers don't give a [filtered] grind PVP arenas cuz they can get the same item [filtered] in PVE content there aren't any unique item in Belli and KS Store that oblige you to grind arenas for points to get that hypothetical item.

You're wrong. I know people who don't like PVE and prefer PVP. I'm the type of player that likes both. The reason why BG's are dead is because Fraywind is Equalized and people wanna use their hard worked for conflate gear which is useless atm. Another reason why they're dead is the prices in the BC and KS shop for ambush mats are so stupidly expensive, people have no reason to do battlegrounds other then for jewelry. Fraywind canyon is also dead, not only due to being equalized, but because the credit rewards are nerfed into the ground aswell.

Sylviette · January 2017

Raising credit rewards or reduce the price is not a good solution, since if it became profitable ppl will just bot more for it. Increase the reward for winning (like jackpot) is a better solution. Personally I saw a lot of ppl in PvE guilds queued for FWC and CS during the previous month not because of the double credit, but because of the ambush mat jackpot. Nobody would care for their "hard earned conflate" (lol, so hard right) if it's not because of the crappy equalized gears.

@Mistruss : I mean the PvP exclusive community. There're a lot of ppl who only PvE and other who do both PvP and PvE, but right now most ppl in the 2nd group focus on PvE for the easier ambush mat, thus reduces the number of ppl doing PvP even more. Ranking only matters for 3s, and it's not the main focal here since you can use your own gears in team 3s anyway.

Plans for BGs once December is over?

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