Question to Eme in regards of balance changes

THEPG · January 2017

Since all of TERA is based around how KTERA develops,there is a huge problem with balancing changes done to classes.

Mainly 90% of problems is because in KTERA they have talents which in other versions of TERA dont exist.
So does that mean that basically if KTERA decided to buff 3 classes with raw balance changes and remaining other classes with talents that we basically get just the raw balance changes for those 3 classes while the remaining ones get nothing?

There is a huge problem if thats the case.
NA TERA MUST NOT use exact KTERA balance changes because of the existence of Talents in KTERA as opposed to NA TERA.

Basically whichever classes get the most talent buffs will suffer in NA TERA because those buffs don't exist for them.

If we have the same patches as them,they will have balanced classes and there will never be balance in NA version of TERA.

Can anyone from Eme confirm this?And if possible contact BHS in regards to this problem?

THEPG · January 2017

If we're never gonna get the talent system then something must be changed and we must have different balance changes from KTERA otherwise you can forget about balance.
Slayers have been suffering from this for a very long time and now Reapers are the ones who are falling behind because the lack of talents.

Shikine · January 2017

BHS probably heard all your complaints, but since talents cant be taken outside of ktera and they dont want to make a separate patch for us (too much work, they [filtered] on other regions).
They created the new class so they have little to no use talents. Like warriors.
Just switch, they are not going to do anything about it, because they dont give a [filtered] about us

Endeva · January 2017

Talents are adjusted after class changes.

counterpoint · January 2017

Yes, on this issue, BHS has said multiple times that they balance pre-talents and then adjust the talents not the other way around. Now whether the classes are actually truly balanced or not is another question, but it's not because they balance them with the expectation of people using talents (nor because things actually are balanced when talents are in use; the whole talent system is fundamentally unbalanced).

Pixelator · January 2017

Valkala wrote: »

Welcome to why Slayers are hot garbage. This has been an issue since the start but EME doesn't care and BHS doesn't care.

They're hot garbage right now with or without talents. Even in KTERA they deal 10-20% less damage than other classes, after the slight december buffs. But here it's just... lol

Zoknahal · January 2017

On balance topic: Since the release of the Glaive user class, the ktera forums are full of dead man coffin threads... on the ninja forums. Yes, the new class is so overpowered that even ninjas, who are stupidly overpowered, are now garbage.

vkobe · January 2017

ye another OP sexy class to play at spring 2017

Yamazuki · January 2017

XR6GREJ4WD wrote: »

You do know class imbalances is done on purpose right? It's purposely done to make ppl reroll cause some people wants to stay relevant because of their insecurity. Rerolling is a pain to get VM gear again unless you spend... $$$ on selling EMP and then buy VM8 weapon from broker. If every class is balance, then there will be less discussion done about each classes to create dramas and such! We are but pawns.

Imbalance is also asked for by the community anyways. Bias gets in the way, so even if classes were balanced, there would still be complaints since x class would have something that y doesn't have.

Blerg · January 2017

In theory, they could just make a global buff (which cannot be removed and applies on login) to other regions that incorporates the most important buffs for each class. Every class gets a few extra power or w/e, and more specific stuff, like Ninja combo attacks generate extra chi, Skyfall and Burning Heart both get cd on crit or just flat cd buff. It would have to take into consideration which talents actually truly matter for each class, just ignore the rest.

Someone like Loriri, who knows a lot about ktera and ppl who play endgame there could easily tell EME which stuff to put in. But it would require a bunch of extra work from EME and BHS, and extra testing. Honestly it seems like it would be pretty hard for EME to justify the time and resources to BHS when international players are still clearing content just fine and they clearly half-[filtered] the class balance anyway.

Yamazuki wrote: »

Imbalance is also asked for by the community anyways. Bias gets in the way, so even if classes were balanced, there would still be complaints since x class would have something that y doesn't have.

As a Warrior player I am secretly stoked my class is getting an edge over the competition because our talents are pretty bad anyway. I know this is entirely irrational considering PVE is co-op lol.

As a Ninja player i am pretty salty about not getting Ninja talents which enable an somewhat different, slightly better, possibly more boring playstyle to at least try out.

kedros · January 2017

On topic of the class balances, i believe bhs said in an interview that for future balance, they wouldnt take the talent system in count.

which is why i expected them to rework slayer a long time ago, and nerf the slayer talents, but ... now I'm sure bhs is run by some mindless fools... (as apparent by how OP Lunar dancer is)

Ketoth · January 2017

I agree, give all other regions 20 power and endurance =D. and give the most broken talent of each class as default class mechanic.
I want face tank everything for 3s as archer =D

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