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Can We Talk About RMHM Drops...

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  • Noctenium boxes for last boss, currently we can get them via vanguards only and Harrowhold.

  • I think the drops are fine, I can run RMHM usually in like 15-30 minutes (not learning runs) with each group. I get about 3k-6k value from each run (2k from feed, 1k from the box, 3k if I win the Eau de Fascination). If you main a healer, you could also just have multiple healers like I do to run RMHM more if you want some decent gold. RMHM is the only dungeon worth running right now honestly given you don't need mats. The rest of the dungeons are [filtered] garbage.
  • TWMagimayTWMagimay ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2017
    Pixelator wrote: »
    TWMagimay wrote: »
    We've been discussing highlighting specific dungeons on weekends with increased drops as an "event".

    Your complaints regarding Ruinous Manor HM are well taken.

    What do you think would represent a worthy buff to the rewards?

    I'm gonna go against the general flow and say...drop event weekends is a terrible idea. It'll make running dungeons during the week a complete waste of time. What I would personally love to see is a non-trade-able dyad box distributed to every person in the party that gives a random dyad when opened, including Swiftly Hard/Relentless dyads. A touch-up on vm mats and feedstock wouldn't hurt either provided it's all the time and not just 2 days a week.
    Dyad Structures would be better just to get this VG Credit surplus out.

    Actually, the drop scheme they did in 2015 might be still pretty reasonable today. Increased VM material drops, Noctenium chests drop (there hasn't been any good source of nocts + we will need them to make Refined Noctenium in the future), dyad structures, goldfinger tokens and feedstock.

    Fair enough. Though I'd still really like to have a reliable source of swiftly dyads... Like, adding them to the dyad structures loot tables(both blue and golden). That might make vanguard credits useful again.
  • We've been discussing highlighting specific dungeons on weekends with increased drops as an "event".

    Your complaints regarding Ruinous Manor HM are well taken.

    What do you think would represent a worthy buff to the rewards?

    Feedstock, feedstock, and feedstock. Because of how large alk supply is from all the recent events and loot boxes there's nothing more incentivizing than feedstock atm and I would love to see it added in larger supply to the dungeon as there really is no other great way to obtain it apart from purchasing it off other players atm.
  • the buffed loot table could get one or several of these (just inspiration):

    1. a bit more feedstock (T11 ofc)
    2. or a bit larger stack of T10
    3. consumables (goddess' ress, noctenium, ...)
    4. Goldfinger tokens
    5. normal (blue) Dyad
    6. rare chance of smart Dyad
    7. very rare chance for 1 day elite voucher
    8. lachelith loot boxes
    9. Dragon scales
    10. Goddess tears
    11. Titan Embers
    12. caprin horns
    13. eau de fascination
    14. I'm sure there are more things... (look back 3 years ago and how you buffed BRHM, those were good changes)
  • LesbianViLesbianVi ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2017
    We've been discussing highlighting specific dungeons on weekends with increased drops as an "event".

    Your complaints regarding Ruinous Manor HM are well taken.

    What do you think would represent a worthy buff to the rewards?

    noice, Tnx. focus on mats I say. it could help a whole server if mats comes in better numbers, not so high, a balance there. When players make their own and sell extra, others can buy them too and that can lead to more HH runs, higher quality on servers.

    I barely see Ambush sets and weapons on sale.

    PS: please add Smart Dyad too. 100K KS for one piece for more focused pve players is being annoying. Also GF tokens as said might be good. needs more pantsu on servers ;)
  • Scrubs casuals if u seriously gunna increase drop rate Cuz these fools keep lfging all day don't know wat to say

    Keep it 100 real quick u don't LFG endgame dungeons and u shouldn't be relying on pugs to get ur gear period.

    It's literally easy to get hanks necessary as in guild runs ur teammates will pass since they either in full ambush already or behemoth or don't need more ambush gear since made weapon gloves already. Patch old ppl exploited double triple drop lachelith loot boxes.

    At this point in game if no ambush ur either new, suck n no1 will form static with u, or like most don't care cuz don't need ambush/ f rng no life grind. Really is no mystic ball unless u stupidly gunna do another Mongo and watch more ppl quit months later.

    Lack of lfgs in this mmo another issue altogether.
  • FleettFleett ✭✭✭✭
    @5H96Y49G6D What?...
  • LancerJivaLancerJiva ✭✭✭✭✭
    5H96Y49G6D wrote: »
    Scrubs casuals if u seriously gunna increase drop rate Cuz these fools keep lfging all day don't know wat to say

    Keep it 100 real quick u don't LFG endgame dungeons and u shouldn't be relying on pugs to get ur gear period.

    It's literally easy to get hanks necessary as in guild runs ur teammates will pass since they either in full ambush already or behemoth or don't need more ambush gear since made weapon gloves already. Patch old ppl exploited double triple drop lachelith loot boxes.

    At this point in game if no ambush ur either new, suck n no1 will form static with u, or like most don't care cuz don't need ambush/ f rng no life grind. Really is no mystic ball unless u stupidly gunna do another Mongo and watch more ppl quit months later.

    Lack of lfgs in this mmo another issue altogether.

    You're completely being ignorant to people who are guildless or don't like guilds. :/
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    LancerJiva wrote: »
    5H96Y49G6D wrote: »
    Scrubs casuals if u seriously gunna increase drop rate Cuz these fools keep lfging all day don't know wat to say

    Keep it 100 real quick u don't LFG endgame dungeons and u shouldn't be relying on pugs to get ur gear period.

    It's literally easy to get hanks necessary as in guild runs ur teammates will pass since they either in full ambush already or behemoth or don't need more ambush gear since made weapon gloves already. Patch old ppl exploited double triple drop lachelith loot boxes.

    At this point in game if no ambush ur either new, suck n no1 will form static with u, or like most don't care cuz don't need ambush/ f rng no life grind. Really is no mystic ball unless u stupidly gunna do another Mongo and watch more ppl quit months later.

    Lack of lfgs in this mmo another issue altogether.

    You're completely being ignorant to people who are guildless or don't like guilds. :/

    Even in lfgs people still pass if the lfg states to. This just requires people to actually lead their own lfg, but seems most people can't be bothered.
  • This is not about forming parties to get gear its about completing the dungeon and feeling unrewarded for clearing one of the hardest dungeons in the game. What works for some does not work for everyone else.

  • PinopyPinopy ✭✭✭
    5H96Y49G6D wrote: »
    Scrubs casuals if u seriously gunna increase drop rate Cuz these fools keep lfging all day don't know wat to say

    Keep it 100 real quick u don't LFG endgame dungeons and u shouldn't be relying on pugs to get ur gear period.

    It's literally easy to get hanks necessary as in guild runs ur teammates will pass since they either in full ambush already or behemoth or don't need more ambush gear since made weapon gloves already. Patch old ppl exploited double triple drop lachelith loot boxes.

    At this point in game if no ambush ur either new, suck n no1 will form static with u, or like most don't care cuz don't need ambush/ f rng no life grind. Really is no mystic ball unless u stupidly gunna do another Mongo and watch more ppl quit months later.

    Lack of lfgs in this mmo another issue altogether.

    - What about guildless people? They shouldn't have to be forced to join a guild if they don't want to. LFG runs are fine as long as you know how to not invite people with incorrect gear/skilled in nothing but sabex armory for a skilled run
    - What about people who are in guilds only for social reasons? I used to be in a very social guild that didn't/couldn't spam x4 of the hardmode dungeons and had no problem LFGing and getting a full set worth (not full set but the equivalent among main and alts) with little to no trouble.
    - You don't LFG endgame dungeons?? I see many RMH lfgs every single day
    - Rely on pugs to get gear? It's hella possible I do it all of the time lmao. If you want mats for sure but you don't have a static, simply add "Pass This Mat" in the title and boom, those lfgs fill up eventually.

    And say majority of the community made statics for endgame dungeons and never lfg? Doesn't that conflict with "Lack of lfgs in this mmo another issue altogether" All that does it kill LFG even more and make the game seem a lot more dead


    Plus, if they actually did buff drops, even if only for weekends, a lot more people would be LFGing as more people have a reason to want to run it more often.
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    Symn wrote: »
    This is not about forming parties to get gear its about completing the dungeon and feeling unrewarded for clearing one of the hardest dungeons in the game. What works for some does not work for everyone else.

    If the crafting mats become easy to get, the dungeon instantly becomes unrewarding anyways. Why would you run RMHM if you already completed your set? Get more for your alts if you can afford to? People are mostly complaining about AMbush Mats, not the rewards. You can make RMHM rewarding without having the Ambush Mats dropping like candy.
  • PinopyPinopy ✭✭✭
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Symn wrote: »
    This is not about forming parties to get gear its about completing the dungeon and feeling unrewarded for clearing one of the hardest dungeons in the game. What works for some does not work for everyone else.

    If the crafting mats become easy to get, the dungeon instantly becomes unrewarding anyways. Why would you run RMHM if you already completed your set? Get more for your alts if you can afford to? People are mostly complaining about AMbush Mats, not the rewards. You can make RMHM rewarding without having the Ambush Mats dropping like candy.

    I also agree with this. Once you have all of the gear you want/full set there is no reason to run RMH anymore because it is so unrewarding in other aspects. With this being the "hardest" dungeon (excluding HH) what will you do after you finished gearing what you wanted to gear? If it had more rewards or buffed drops even if it wasn't VM8 mats I would definitely want to run it more.

    Plus less reason to run RMH after you are done gearing = less people running RMH for the people who still need things.

    If it had other rewards it would give the people who don't need to roll on VM8 mats a reason to run, and give the people who need the mats more of a chance (less people in the party rolling on mats)
  • do you remember when brhm dropped dyads and ccb out the [filtered]? cant we at least have thisa common occurence for every hm now
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