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Masterworking Guile Gear

So I just tried to Masterwork my +9 Brawler Weapon, and after over 206 tries, it still isn't masterworked. What the [filtered] is going on with this Guile RNG? My archer took about 20 tries to masterwork an Imperator bow, so this can't seriously be just a bad case of RNG. I spent over 5k on materials just to masterwork a freaking mid tier gear piece, and now I have to grind for all of my gold back, and grind another months worth of mats to do the same thing all over again. That should not happen, not with mid tier gear. Anyone else have any problems like that or is it just me?
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  • PamcakePamcake ✭✭✭
    Maybe it really is bad case of RNG.
  • Dhrizzit wrote: »
    question, do you tried that 206 trys one by one all without stop?

    Yes, I had 206 IIS and about 210 MES (both tier 10 and tierless combined).
  • Use blessed enigmatic scroll. They're cheap and has much higher chance of masterworking compare to mes.
    Just mix them together ( a few mes, a few bes).
  • Sylviette wrote: »
    Use blessed enigmatic scroll. They're cheap and has much higher chance of masterworking compare to mes.
    Just mix them together ( a few mes, a few bes).

    Well I only had one of those, and they go for about 300 gold a piece. I only had about 5.5k gold on my Brawler, so I didn't want to spend any gold in the first place, but did anyway. Now I only have about 28 gold.
  • cheekibreekicheekibreeki ✭✭✭
    edited January 2017
    Here's what I always recommend for RNG stuff: try it 5 times, change channels. Repeat until masterwork/+12/+15/whatever.

    For whatever reason changing channels seems to help. Sorry you had bad luck. It happens to everyone in one way or another.
  • should of just bought like 10 blessed scrolls
  • Dhrizzit wrote: »
    Jordansb1 wrote: »
    Dhrizzit wrote: »
    question, do you tried that 206 trys one by one all without stop?

    Yes, I had 206 IIS and about 210 MES (both tier 10 and tierless combined).

    a few months ago i made a post about how to masterwork and enchant easy tier 10 gear, and any gear

    i have more than 20 characters in FF with tier 10, some others with ambush and imperator

    but this community in this forum started about my theory was a " troll " because i talked about magic logic, and probability.

    and how its affected by the space/time

    the post was deleted, and i was censored, and they quit me the liberty of speech as happend with copernic in 15xx

    but here you have an example



    its just science and logic

    ever thought of something called luck??
  • ReaperElenaReaperElena ✭✭✭
    edited January 2017
    Dhrizzit wrote: »
    Jordansb1 wrote: »
    Dhrizzit wrote: »
    question, do you tried that 206 trys one by one all without stop?

    Yes, I had 206 IIS and about 210 MES (both tier 10 and tierless combined).

    a few months ago i made a post about how to masterwork and enchant easy tier 10 gear, and any gear

    i have more than 20 characters in FF with tier 10, some others with ambush and imperator

    but this community in this forum started about my theory was a " troll " because i talked about magic logic, and probability.

    and how its affected by the space/time

    the post was deleted, and i was censored, and they quit me the liberty of speech as happend with copernic in 15xx

    but here you have an example

    its just science and logic

    Ever wonder that maybe it IS just RNG? I could post video of me getting such luck (if only I record 'em) when I enchant one of my guile piece without fail to +11, but even then I know it's just "luck". So yes, your "theory" and is b u l l i s h.
  • Here's what I always recommend for RNG stuff: try it 5 times, change channels. Repeat until masterwork/+12/+15/whatever.

    For whatever reason changing channels seems to help. Sorry you had bad luck. It happens to everyone in one way or another.

    UPDATE: Tried this theory out. I was successful. It took me

    *drum roll*

    6 tries.

    6

    [filtered]

    tries.


    So a total of 212 IIS and MES, and switching channels made me go from having to use 212 to 6.


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  • Jordansb1 wrote: »
    What the actual [filtered]...

    The most likely explanation is that it's just RNG and switching channels was just a placebo to make it feel like you were changing something. But still... it's kind of amazing in its own way.
  • Jordansb1 wrote: »
    What the actual [filtered]...

    The most likely explanation is that it's just RNG and switching channels was just a placebo to make it feel like you were changing something. But still... it's kind of amazing in its own way.

    I would usually agree with you 100%, but after 212 tries in a row with no success....it really makes me question this system.

    *puts on tinfoil hat*
  • I find certain character do have better RNG than others. When I failed to MW'd more than 10 tries in one go, I just switched to one of my better luck character and voila, got it the first try.
  • Jordansb1 wrote: »
    What the actual [filtered]...

    The most likely explanation is that it's just RNG and switching channels was just a placebo to make it feel like you were changing something. But still... it's kind of amazing in its own way.

    It's likely a placebo effect, I'll give you that. But that doesn't explain why it just...works. Even if it is just making me feel better, it seems to make me feel better by enchanting / MW'ing gear noticeably faster :no_mouth:
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jordansb1 wrote: »
    So I just tried to Masterwork my +9 Brawler Weapon, and after over 206 tries, it still isn't masterworked. What the [filtered] is going on with this Guile RNG? My archer took about 20 tries to masterwork an Imperator bow, so this can't seriously be just a bad case of RNG. I spent over 5k on materials just to masterwork a freaking mid tier gear piece, and now I have to grind for all of my gold back, and grind another months worth of mats to do the same thing all over again. That should not happen, not with mid tier gear. Anyone else have any problems like that or is it just me?

    you didnt sacrifice enough cute elin
  • Jordansb1 wrote: »
    What the actual [filtered]...

    The most likely explanation is that it's just RNG and switching channels was just a placebo to make it feel like you were changing something. But still... it's kind of amazing in its own way.

    It's likely a placebo effect, I'll give you that. But that doesn't explain why it just...works. Even if it is just making me feel better, it seems to make me feel better by enchanting / MW'ing gear noticeably faster :no_mouth:

    Not to mention that it not only seemed to work for you, but it also worked for me...

    *puts on another tinfoil hat*

    vkobe wrote: »
    Jordansb1 wrote: »
    So I just tried to Masterwork my +9 Brawler Weapon, and after over 206 tries, it still isn't masterworked. What the [filtered] is going on with this Guile RNG? My archer took about 20 tries to masterwork an Imperator bow, so this can't seriously be just a bad case of RNG. I spent over 5k on materials just to masterwork a freaking mid tier gear piece, and now I have to grind for all of my gold back, and grind another months worth of mats to do the same thing all over again. That should not happen, not with mid tier gear. Anyone else have any problems like that or is it just me?

    you didnt sacrifice enough cute elin

    Well, it's my Brawler I'm upgrading, so I'm not able to obtain the powers of the Sacrificial Elin Goddess unfortunately. D:
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