People going offline to avoid dropout

PacothePig · January 2017

i know alot of people are more concerned with server issues, the IM only with 410 dungeons and the like, but are we ever gonna have a proper solution to this stupidity? it really isnt fair that simply going offline allows them to avoid taking the 15 or some other punishment, and its worse when you cant report players in game that are of other servers and have to submit tickets which might end up just ignored.

sorry if this issue has been brought up before and answered, but it really bugs me when i get like say a healer that refuses to do their job correctly because they expect the rest of the party to be perfect only to go offline on purpose. same with dps.

are there trap parties? yes. we all go through them. just asked to be kicked if you dont want to be a part of it. if they dont vote through, then take the 15 if your so adamant about not being with that group.

Melyodis · January 2017

live with it

LesbianVi · January 2017

You know what is the biggest problem? We get the unwanted changes because most of those people are not playing the game.

Roly · January 2017

Asking for kick? is that a joke brotha?, if you said that the first answer you'll get is straight in you face " Kick yourself " and nobody want to take a risk to get a wipe cause under-geared assholes that do not respect the time of other when they go with Slaughter gear not even +12 to RM or lkhm or sshm, please deal with it and stop complain, or better get a friend party.

Deleted User · January 2017

That's ok, since 90% of IMS parties are trap. I do that when i see 1+ traps on a party, and they don't wanna kick me.

PacothePig · January 2017

If its a 417 dungeon, i get why you dont want to deal with traps. since by that point you really do expect people to have done some amount of research into their toon and gear.

but im talking about 410 dungeons. ive done plenty of runs with trap parties, and except for 2 out of every 25 parties, do i get ungrateful people when i take the time to help them out. it amazes me how may lfg's always list "Need Tank" yet when they have the chance to help new tanks, they just BM them.

Plus, id rather deal with trap teammates, than elitist teammates. since at least trap teammates tends to be either that they simply dont know or they refuse to accept help and get better. almost always i find the former. with elitist idiots, its always ignorance and idiocy.

Endeva · January 2017

PacothePig wrote: »

Plus, id rather deal with trap teammates, than elitist teammates. since at least trap teammates tends to be either that they simply dont know or they refuse to accept help and get better.

Isn't that just the same as...

PacothePig wrote: »

its always ignorance and idiocy.

Vysse · January 2017

Lol. The whole dropout debuff needs to be removed. It causes more problems then it solves.

aeee98 · January 2017

PacothePig wrote: »

i know alot of people are more concerned with server issues, the IM only with 410 dungeons and the like, but are we ever gonna have a proper solution to this stupidity? it really isnt fair that simply going offline allows them to avoid taking the 15 or some other punishment, and its worse when you cant report players in game that are of other servers and have to submit tickets which might end up just ignored.

sorry if this issue has been brought up before and answered, but it really bugs me when i get like say a healer that refuses to do their job correctly because they expect the rest of the party to be perfect only to go offline on purpose. same with dps.

are there trap parties? yes. we all go through them. just asked to be kicked if you dont want to be a part of it. if they dont vote through, then take the 15 if your so adamant about not being with that group.

Kicking people in Dungeon IMS doesn't put them on a 15min cd. Aside from actual disconnecting from the game or really needing to rush out he pulls plug in the middle (I actually did that once on accident lol, not gonna do that again), there is really no reason to not ask for a kick.

PacothePig · January 2017

Ginjitsu wrote: »

Isn't that just the same as...

no, because even for myself. i didnt know at first what the best rotations or gear rolls should be. yet i got help and started improving.

another point: why is wiping such a problem for you guys? you should have crystalbinds, and for 410 dungeons, even a minor solution is just fine, no need to waste your special consumables unless you want to take the risk.

and if your annoyed at traps in IM, why are you even using the system just to go "offline" when you dont like the party? if your complaining about wiping being a waste of time, you queing only to leave is a bigger waste of time for all.

one guy earlier in these very comments said "better get a friend party" so i say the same to you back that abuse the offline. dont que, go get an LFG so you can sit back and relax without any worries knowing your elitist self and elitist ego will not be touched (if such applies)

TheCatalyst · January 2017

Abuse what?
Just kick the guy that went offline. He wants to be kicked, right?
Or did he dc'ed? Which one is it?

Scythera · January 2017

PacothePig wrote: »

another point: why is wiping such a problem for you guys? you should have crystalbinds, and for 410 dungeons, even a minor solution is just fine, no need to waste your special consumables unless you want to take the risk.

and if your annoyed at traps in IM, why are you even using the system just to go "offline" when you dont like the party? if your complaining about wiping being a waste of time, you queing only to leave is a bigger waste of time for all.

one guy earlier in these very comments said "better get a friend party" so i say the same to you back that abuse the offline. dont que, go get an LFG so you can sit back and relax without any worries knowing your elitist self and elitist ego will not be touched (if such applies)

Because we have better things to do than wipe in a low ilevel dungeon..? Consumables are nothing it's a waste of time and irritating lol

Its not my problem if someone can't play their class, it's not my responsibility to carry them until they can? Doesn't mean I won't help when I have time but not everyone has hours to waste
'why are you even using the system' 'don't que get a LFG'
mate thats the point, we don't wanna use IM....... but we shouldn't be locked out of those dg its unfair to both

>Guilds can't run full parties
>Class restrictions (healers/tanks)
>People kick till they get someone they want
>Elitists are stuck with cancer
>Learners will get abused more
>Idiots who roll everything
>Forced to play in ways we don't want
>Can't use trade in IM
>People going offline @thread purpose

And not a single benefit from this change, please EME this is cancer for NA we don't need this

Dan0487 · January 2017

Scythera wrote: »

PacothePig wrote: »

another point: why is wiping such a problem for you guys? you should have crystalbinds, and for 410 dungeons, even a minor solution is just fine, no need to waste your special consumables unless you want to take the risk.

and if your annoyed at traps in IM, why are you even using the system just to go "offline" when you dont like the party? if your complaining about wiping being a waste of time, you queing only to leave is a bigger waste of time for all.

one guy earlier in these very comments said "better get a friend party" so i say the same to you back that abuse the offline. dont que, go get an LFG so you can sit back and relax without any worries knowing your elitist self and elitist ego will not be touched (if such applies)

Because we have better things to do than wipe in a low ilevel dungeon..? Consumables are nothing it's a waste of time and irritating lol

Its not my problem if someone can't play their class, it's not my responsibility to carry them until they can? Doesn't mean I won't help when I have time but not everyone has hours to waste
'why are you even using the system' 'don't que get a LFG'
mate thats the point, we don't wanna use IM....... but we shouldn't be locked out of those dg its unfair to both

>Guilds can't run full parties
>Class restrictions (healers/tanks)
>People kick till they get someone they want
>Elitists are stuck with cancer
>Learners will get abused more
>Idiots who roll everything
>Forced to play in ways we don't want
>Can't use trade in IM
>People going offline @thread purpose

And not a single benefit from this change, please EME this is cancer for NA we don't need this

pretty much this the only people that like this change are lazy people that are floormasters and will grab all the loot

TWMagimay · January 2017

PacothePig wrote: »

and its worse when you cant report players in game that are of other servers and have to submit tickets which might end up just ignored.

You...report people for going offline? I don't even have a good insult for that...

PS: I tried to resist and failed miserably:

Luhz · January 2017

what's funny is usually people will stay logged out for longer than the dropout penalty lmao
it's just kind of stupid to me imo

66ECX7NAN7 · January 2017

Automatically give people drop out if they're kicked while offline, problem solved. Of course you'd have people complain when they go offline through no fault of their own.

People going offline to avoid dropout

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