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Masterworking Guile Gear

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  • kamizumakamizuma ✭✭✭✭
    it's rng. I've Mw'd 10,000+ items and it's just rng
  • kamizuma wrote: »
    it's rng. I've Mw'd 10,000+ items and it's just rng
    I dont know why, but somehow I believe him with the 10.000. Well, it's Kamizuma.

    I lately did 2 sets of Guile and 200 MES for one single item really is bad luck for mid tier. At this point I have to say that I did the enchanting in one go per set (4 pieces) and it felt like enchanting a normal mid tier set. Uses up a bit more MES, but nothing ordinary.

    Whatever the reality might be, if using 200 MES drives you up that much, you should really split the enchanting by taking breaks, changing channels or even zones.
  • use this classic and myth method:

    once your failed to mw for 20 times, change your channel. and keep changing it until you are success mw it.

    i once tried to mw my guile boots and it failed like over 80 times... just change your channel..it might work. but its all about RNG actually.
  • KarmaTheAlligatorKarmaTheAlligator ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2017
    Jordansb1 wrote: »
    *puts on another tinfoil hat*:

    How many hats can you wear?

    As for the changing channel thing, that probably does affect the RNG (based on my understanding of RNG on the PS2, so I could be dead wrong). I'll give it a try next time (don't want to go through another 200 scrolls to MW something).
  • LesbianViLesbianVi ✭✭✭✭✭
    All bs RNG. there is no controlled RNG.

    I used 20 BES, 20 yeah on my weap, and guess what not masterworked, 80 times after with mes tier 10 and finally masteredworked.

    and 2 days ago, Armor for another char, I just used 1 MES tier 10. JUST ONE and it was masterworked.
  • 66ECX7NAN766ECX7NAN7 ✭✭✭✭
    I really doubt that the lazy programmers at BHS did anything other than make it simple RNG.
  • I've mw'd all of my 12 classes whenever they update the mid tier set. If rng hates you, you could waste 70+ BES per gear. From my personal experience, the average BES needed for 1 mid tier gear is 30. A total of 120 BES for a full guile set. I got one lucky Elin who only spent 10 BES for her full guile set. I also got one unlucky Elin who waste 200+ BES on her guile set. In the end, its simply RNG.
  • kamizumakamizuma ✭✭✭✭
    I've mw'd all of my 12 classes whenever they update the mid tier set. If rng hates you, you could waste 70+ BES per gear. From my personal experience, the average BES needed for 1 mid tier gear is 30. A total of 120 BES for a full guile set. I got one lucky Elin who only spent 10 BES for her full guile set. I also got one unlucky Elin who waste 200+ BES on her guile set. In the end, its simply RNG.

    average blessed is actually 8! Your sample size is too small!
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was intrigued by several post on this thread saying ways to get MW on gear easier.

    My curiosity get me to try it and guess what, Imperator Weapon 18 tries, Imperator Armor 16 tries.

    I didnt have to use BES and the scrolls i used were the ones i get when i did dungeons so i didn't spent gold on them.

    Didn't try the enchantment tip but i am sure it would work .

    A shame this cann't be done on Awakening Enchanting. I heard horror stories about that.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dhrizzit wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    I was intrigued by several post on this thread saying ways to get MW on gear easier.

    My curiosity get me to try it and guess what, Imperator Weapon 18 tries, Imperator Armor 16 tries.

    I didnt have to use BES and the scrolls i used were the ones i get when i did dungeons so i didn't spent gold on them.

    Didn't try the enchantment tip but i am sure it would work .

    A shame this cann't be done on Awakening Enchanting. I heard horror stories about that.

    wooooooooah woooooooah you write as me, people are going to say " alt dhrizzit"

    I play no more this game but i was just curious.
  • LesbianVi wrote: »
    All bs RNG. there is no controlled RNG.

    I used 20 BES, 20 yeah on my weap, and guess what not masterworked, 80 times after with mes tier 10 and finally masteredworked.

    and 2 days ago, Armor for another char, I just used 1 MES tier 10. JUST ONE and it was masterworked.

    There's no such thing as random in RNG. All random number generators in this world were created based on specific programmings that pick specific constantly changing factors (read "constantly changing", not "random") and put them into specific formulas to generate seemingly random results. In the past most of those generators were created using timestamps/previous results/number of requests/.... but nowadays they're mostly created using environmental datas (read "weather") such as humidity in A city reported from this online source put together with rain mm in B city reported from that online source.... The main reason for the change was to make it harder to manipulate, unlike old generators which used offline datas.

    Back to the matter of RNG in Tera, despite hasn't been proved (since BHS is the only one with the game source code), it can be observed that Tera's using some very outdated rng which utilized either time stamps or previous results as one of the biggest factors (crit chaining, box macro opening, reset chaining...). In other world, waiting/changing channel does work as a buffer to change your rng. As long as you dont constantly spam it you will get different results faster.

    For more info regarding this topic, you can try looking for the youtube video of a programmer finish the pokedek (151 pokemons - gameboy 1st gen) just by playing the game in a specific way until he reached the point where you can just count ingame time stamps combine with your number of steps to result in exactly what pokemon would be appearing, totally wiped out the so-called rng programmed into the game.
  • Jordansb1 wrote: »
    Jordansb1 wrote: »
    What the actual [filtered]...

    The most likely explanation is that it's just RNG and switching channels was just a placebo to make it feel like you were changing something. But still... it's kind of amazing in its own way.

    It's likely a placebo effect, I'll give you that. But that doesn't explain why it just...works. Even if it is just making me feel better, it seems to make me feel better by enchanting / MW'ing gear noticeably faster :no_mouth:

    Not to mention that it not only seemed to work for you, but it also worked for me...

    *puts on another tinfoil hat*

    vkobe wrote: »
    Jordansb1 wrote: »
    So I just tried to Masterwork my +9 Brawler Weapon, and after over 206 tries, it still isn't masterworked. What the [filtered] is going on with this Guile RNG? My archer took about 20 tries to masterwork an Imperator bow, so this can't seriously be just a bad case of RNG. I spent over 5k on materials just to masterwork a freaking mid tier gear piece, and now I have to grind for all of my gold back, and grind another months worth of mats to do the same thing all over again. That should not happen, not with mid tier gear. Anyone else have any problems like that or is it just me?

    you didnt sacrifice enough cute elin

    Well, it's my Brawler I'm upgrading, so I'm not able to obtain the powers of the Sacrificial Elin Goddess unfortunately. D:

    *Slowly places tinfoil hat on my head*...
    This just worked for me....Out of 3 characters I've tried to MW my Guile weapon, it works after my 4th try when I attempted this...
  • I literally had the same stroke of bad luck. Failed around 40 times with blessed enigmatics, went to channel 2 and succeeded first time.
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