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Dungeon Event: Ruinous Manor (Normal)

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  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2017
    I know that this will come too late but... Why don't make an event with "Double Daylies Reward Event".

    I mean, you have 8 daylies (I think) and you get from doing BAM's, dungeons or gattering (is there something on vg related?), x gold, x vanguard credits, x fs.

    With this event you will have 2x the rewards for daylies.

    I dont's think that would break the economy being done a couple of days.

    Daylies has already restrictions like you can't have more than 3 rewards from Tier 3 bam's, you can't spam high level dungeons like RMHM becuase elite can do 4 and normal accounts 2, with reset scrolls one more and a CD of 5 hours.

    I will read your thoughts in this matter.
  • PixelatorPixelator ✭✭✭✭
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    I know that this will come too late but... Why don't make an event with "Double Daylies Reward Event".

    I mean, you have 8 daylies (I think) and you get from doing BAM's, dungeons or gattering (is there something on vg related?), x gold, x vanguard credits, x fs.

    With this event you will have 2x the rewards for daylies.

    I dont's think that would break the economy being done a couple of days.

    Daylies has already restrictions like you can't have more than 3 rewards from Tier 3 bam's, you can't spam high level dungeons like RMHM becuase elite can do 4 and normal accounts 2, with reset scrolls one more and a CD of 5 hours.

    I will read your thoughts in this matter.
    Uh, that is on every day.
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    XR6GREJ4WD wrote: »
    Lionadias wrote: »
    For public knowledge

    Don't waste your vanguards on this "event" if you can do RMHM ( Also RMNM and RMHM have same HP pool for bosses )

    RMHM = 65 T11 feedstock ( WITH VANGUARDS )
    RMNM = 62.5 T11 feedstock ( WITH VANGUARDS ) ( WITH EVENT )

    Ah thanks for doing the math for me. I told my friends about this and they decided not to bother logging in and play RO instead. Guess I'll go back to my Resident Evil 7 then!

    --

    As for the player councils and whiteknighters, we are tired of suggesting feedback. Every time an event comes on, it's not well crafted. So I'm not going to bother cause future events are always a mess. Just tired. Tired of having to suggest feedback, every, single, time.

    stellaris, doom, dishinored 2 and deus ex for me ;) thanks enmasse to give me reason to finish those video game :3
  • CatservantCatservant ✭✭✭✭
    I understand why you guys are complaining and i too feel that it's not quite what i expected but i think we have to understand that not everyone can do RMHM- if you can good for you and should try to convince Spacecats to make this event apply to RMHM as well, rather than bashing on how this is a waste of time, etc. if anything, it might help the casual players to get a better economic footing from running RMNM, while those too lazy and relunctant to run RMNM because a) they outgear it, b) bored of it, c) don't find it rewarding enough relative to RMHM can just not participate.

    I see people complaining about the amount of feedstock available in game. this potentially is a great event for that- get something that everyone can participate, even though it might be a grind, and increase the number of people gaining feedstock. some might horde it, some might sell it, some might try to +15 their weapon, but overall that's still a surplus of feedstock in game. it's like chemistry- increase surface area makes faster reactions. increase the number of players able to farm feedstock and this will significantly increase the stock of feedstock in game assuming people participate. and that last part is important as well. if you're just complaining with putting the effort in, then obviously you're not worthwhile talking to.

    Not everyone is at endgame being skilled at RMHM and can choose to run Harrowhold so i consider this a choice made by the community manager that allows everyone to be able to participate, even though it might be underwhelming.

    It's working. I've been hesitating to learn the 4 star dungeons and now I'm finding this to be just the excuse I needed to make me stop dilly-dallying and get my hind end out there!

    I'll be studying the dungeon today and tomorrow but by Sunday I think I'll be queuing. :)
  • CatservantCatservant ✭✭✭✭
    Noctiv wrote: »
    Then Spacecats shouldn't have said it was for high level players? I would be less disappointed if it weren't for that fact.

    I think "high level" in this case refers to anyone willing and able to run 4 star dungeons.
  • DelusoDeluso ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2017
    High Tier players be like:
    meme-are-you-seriously.jpg

    Meanwhile at EME's office:
    wJTZIPB.gif
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pixelator wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    I know that this will come too late but... Why don't make an event with "Double Daylies Reward Event".

    I mean, you have 8 daylies (I think) and you get from doing BAM's, dungeons or gattering (is there something on vg related?), x gold, x vanguard credits, x fs.

    With this event you will have 2x the rewards for daylies.

    I dont's think that would break the economy being done a couple of days.

    Daylies has already restrictions like you can't have more than 3 rewards from Tier 3 bam's, you can't spam high level dungeons like RMHM becuase elite can do 4 and normal accounts 2, with reset scrolls one more and a CD of 5 hours.

    I will read your thoughts in this matter.
    Uh, that is on every day.

    Nope, ie, you get 20 t9 fs for killing 10 brutal basilisk with your daylies but if daylies get you double then it would be 40 tier 9 fs.

    The only thing you got double right now with elite is vanguard credits, nothing more.

    So an event like this can help those who need fs to enchant thier VM gears.
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Pixelator wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    I know that this will come too late but... Why don't make an event with "Double Daylies Reward Event".

    I mean, you have 8 daylies (I think) and you get from doing BAM's, dungeons or gattering (is there something on vg related?), x gold, x vanguard credits, x fs.

    With this event you will have 2x the rewards for daylies.

    I dont's think that would break the economy being done a couple of days.

    Daylies has already restrictions like you can't have more than 3 rewards from Tier 3 bam's, you can't spam high level dungeons like RMHM becuase elite can do 4 and normal accounts 2, with reset scrolls one more and a CD of 5 hours.

    I will read your thoughts in this matter.
    Uh, that is on every day.

    Nope, ie, you get 20 t9 fs for killing 10 brutal basilisk with your daylies but if daylies get you double then it would be 40 tier 9 fs.

    The only thing you got double right now with elite is vanguard credits, nothing more.

    So an event like this can help those who need fs to enchant thier VM gears.

    The rewards you see for credits/feedstock is doubled permanently by an event, without the incrase by EME it would be lowered. This was turned on since Ninja's release, I believe since people complained the rewards were too low. Originally it was a temporary event but anytime it ended they would turn it back on due to complaints. It also originally doubled the gold, but later it was changed to not impact the gold.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Pixelator wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    I know that this will come too late but... Why don't make an event with "Double Daylies Reward Event".

    I mean, you have 8 daylies (I think) and you get from doing BAM's, dungeons or gattering (is there something on vg related?), x gold, x vanguard credits, x fs.

    With this event you will have 2x the rewards for daylies.

    I dont's think that would break the economy being done a couple of days.

    Daylies has already restrictions like you can't have more than 3 rewards from Tier 3 bam's, you can't spam high level dungeons like RMHM becuase elite can do 4 and normal accounts 2, with reset scrolls one more and a CD of 5 hours.

    I will read your thoughts in this matter.
    Uh, that is on every day.

    Nope, ie, you get 20 t9 fs for killing 10 brutal basilisk with your daylies but if daylies get you double then it would be 40 tier 9 fs.

    The only thing you got double right now with elite is vanguard credits, nothing more.

    So an event like this can help those who need fs to enchant thier VM gears.

    The rewards you see for credits/feedstock is doubled permanently by an event, without the incrase by EME it would be lowered. This was turned on since Ninja's release, I believe since people complained the rewards were too low. Originally it was a temporary event but anytime it ended they would turn it back on due to complaints. It also originally doubled the gold, but later it was changed to not impact the gold.

    Then, EME does listen to complains but there are ppl who doesn't want to acept that fact.

    xD.

    Double rewards permanently from daylies and ppl are still crying for more gold, for more fs and other things.

    xD.
  • I recommend be all dungeons the event respective Tier Feedstock asy amuses the one who like farm any dugeon.
    As economy tier is already by the floors
    ;););););)
  • Spacecats wrote: »
    By the way, we're paying attention to the feedback you guys have here. This is the first event in a series of dungeon highlights. We're interested to get your opinions once the weekend is over as well to see how much players benefited from the extra drops.

    Most players aren't going to be benefiting much, if at all, when they can only run it once a day without a reset scroll, or twice with elite.

    And lets be real, an extra 120 feedstock per character, per day isn't much when awaken enchanting costs more than that per rng attempt. I guess that part has less weight to it when you can just give yourself 15k through GM commands, like during the stream, right? ;)

    Complaining aside, a suggestion would be increasing feedstock per bam, per run as a step in the right direction for everyone, not just end game players.
  • edited January 2017
    I think the intention of this event is clearly not to introduce a sudden influx of feedstock onto the market, but rather to shift it gradually over time with different dungeons being featured every weekend. So rather than "oh finally, here's a reason to play again!" that some people are looking for, this is a bonus to encourage some people (this week, less-highly-geared people) to play some dungeons. And I suspect the reason, as they allude to, is because they've been accused repeatedly of being too reckless in past events by not having them be properly balanced, so this is more of a "slow and steady" approach.

    Overall, I tend to think there actually should be small events going on all the time, so I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with this (maybe the quantity is a bit low to start), but I think there does need to be some larger-scale events to go along with it. I think the anger in this thread is mostly because people are frustrated with the state of the game and are looking for some sort of major revolution that's going to convince people to play again, and this certainly isn't that. But that doesn't mean that having things like this as a regular event is necessarily a bad thing, as long as it's not the only thing.

  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Pixelator wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    I know that this will come too late but... Why don't make an event with "Double Daylies Reward Event".

    I mean, you have 8 daylies (I think) and you get from doing BAM's, dungeons or gattering (is there something on vg related?), x gold, x vanguard credits, x fs.

    With this event you will have 2x the rewards for daylies.

    I dont's think that would break the economy being done a couple of days.

    Daylies has already restrictions like you can't have more than 3 rewards from Tier 3 bam's, you can't spam high level dungeons like RMHM becuase elite can do 4 and normal accounts 2, with reset scrolls one more and a CD of 5 hours.

    I will read your thoughts in this matter.
    Uh, that is on every day.

    Nope, ie, you get 20 t9 fs for killing 10 brutal basilisk with your daylies but if daylies get you double then it would be 40 tier 9 fs.

    The only thing you got double right now with elite is vanguard credits, nothing more.

    So an event like this can help those who need fs to enchant thier VM gears.

    The rewards you see for credits/feedstock is doubled permanently by an event, without the incrase by EME it would be lowered. This was turned on since Ninja's release, I believe since people complained the rewards were too low. Originally it was a temporary event but anytime it ended they would turn it back on due to complaints. It also originally doubled the gold, but later it was changed to not impact the gold.

    Then, EME does listen to complains but there are ppl who doesn't want to acept that fact.

    xD.

    Double rewards permanently from daylies and ppl are still crying for more gold, for more fs and other things.

    xD.

    Well, when you double zero, you're still at zero. Awakening costs a couple thousand up front, with another couple hundred per attempt on a system with no cap to failure, meaning multiple hundred attempts with the low success rate isn't exactly abnormal. Even not factoring Awakening Enchant, going up to +12 on a weapon can exceed 2,000 feedstock.

    Feedstock gains are balanced around the Korean way of progressing. This is why instances, even mid tier, reward lower tier spellbinds, and why VM boxes reward an extremely small number of the lowest tier feedstock, 2 tiers lower than the gear the mats are for. A big chunk of feedstock people have used for a while now have mostly came from events, and not the actual game itself, and even then, T11 had still been over 30g/unit despite the "excessive" amount of "free" feedstock.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Pixelator wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    I know that this will come too late but... Why don't make an event with "Double Daylies Reward Event".

    I mean, you have 8 daylies (I think) and you get from doing BAM's, dungeons or gattering (is there something on vg related?), x gold, x vanguard credits, x fs.

    With this event you will have 2x the rewards for daylies.

    I dont's think that would break the economy being done a couple of days.

    Daylies has already restrictions like you can't have more than 3 rewards from Tier 3 bam's, you can't spam high level dungeons like RMHM becuase elite can do 4 and normal accounts 2, with reset scrolls one more and a CD of 5 hours.

    I will read your thoughts in this matter.
    Uh, that is on every day.

    Nope, ie, you get 20 t9 fs for killing 10 brutal basilisk with your daylies but if daylies get you double then it would be 40 tier 9 fs.

    The only thing you got double right now with elite is vanguard credits, nothing more.

    So an event like this can help those who need fs to enchant thier VM gears.

    The rewards you see for credits/feedstock is doubled permanently by an event, without the incrase by EME it would be lowered. This was turned on since Ninja's release, I believe since people complained the rewards were too low. Originally it was a temporary event but anytime it ended they would turn it back on due to complaints. It also originally doubled the gold, but later it was changed to not impact the gold.

    Then, EME does listen to complains but there are ppl who doesn't want to acept that fact.

    xD.

    Double rewards permanently from daylies and ppl are still crying for more gold, for more fs and other things.

    xD.

    Well, when you double zero, you're still at zero. Awakening costs a couple thousand up front, with another couple hundred per attempt on a system with no cap to failure, meaning multiple hundred attempts with the low success rate isn't exactly abnormal. Even not factoring Awakening Enchant, going up to +12 on a weapon can exceed 2,000 feedstock.

    Feedstock gains are balanced around the Korean way of progressing. This is why instances, even mid tier, reward lower tier spellbinds, and why VM boxes reward an extremely small number of the lowest tier feedstock, 2 tiers lower than the gear the mats are for. A big chunk of feedstock people have used for a while now have mostly came from events, and not the actual game itself, and even then, T11 had still been over 30g/unit despite the "excessive" amount of "free" feedstock.

    I did post my self that enchanting full imperator gear +15 cost me about 2 million gold on mats.

    I think +15 shouldn't be for everyone, like HH.

    Just now i count the tier 11 fs on broker and that amount were around 30k units plus tier 10 fs.

    I sold more than 8k tier 11 fs this month, and have more than 3k on my inventory.

    I don't think is a fs shortage but ppl wanting to have everything with the minimun effort.
  • ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Pixelator wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    I know that this will come too late but... Why don't make an event with "Double Daylies Reward Event".

    I mean, you have 8 daylies (I think) and you get from doing BAM's, dungeons or gattering (is there something on vg related?), x gold, x vanguard credits, x fs.

    With this event you will have 2x the rewards for daylies.

    I dont's think that would break the economy being done a couple of days.

    Daylies has already restrictions like you can't have more than 3 rewards from Tier 3 bam's, you can't spam high level dungeons like RMHM becuase elite can do 4 and normal accounts 2, with reset scrolls one more and a CD of 5 hours.

    I will read your thoughts in this matter.
    Uh, that is on every day.

    Nope, ie, you get 20 t9 fs for killing 10 brutal basilisk with your daylies but if daylies get you double then it would be 40 tier 9 fs.

    The only thing you got double right now with elite is vanguard credits, nothing more.

    So an event like this can help those who need fs to enchant thier VM gears.

    The rewards you see for credits/feedstock is doubled permanently by an event, without the incrase by EME it would be lowered. This was turned on since Ninja's release, I believe since people complained the rewards were too low. Originally it was a temporary event but anytime it ended they would turn it back on due to complaints. It also originally doubled the gold, but later it was changed to not impact the gold.

    Then, EME does listen to complains but there are ppl who doesn't want to acept that fact.

    xD.

    Double rewards permanently from daylies and ppl are still crying for more gold, for more fs and other things.

    xD.

    Well, when you double zero, you're still at zero. Awakening costs a couple thousand up front, with another couple hundred per attempt on a system with no cap to failure, meaning multiple hundred attempts with the low success rate isn't exactly abnormal. Even not factoring Awakening Enchant, going up to +12 on a weapon can exceed 2,000 feedstock.

    Feedstock gains are balanced around the Korean way of progressing. This is why instances, even mid tier, reward lower tier spellbinds, and why VM boxes reward an extremely small number of the lowest tier feedstock, 2 tiers lower than the gear the mats are for. A big chunk of feedstock people have used for a while now have mostly came from events, and not the actual game itself, and even then, T11 had still been over 30g/unit despite the "excessive" amount of "free" feedstock.

    I did post my self that enchanting full imperator gear +15 cost me about 2 million gold on mats.

    I think +15 shouldn't be for everyone, like HH.

    Just now i count the tier 11 fs on broker and that amount were around 30k units plus tier 10 fs.

    I sold more than 8k tier 11 fs this month, and have more than 3k on my inventory.

    I don't think is a fs shortage but ppl wanting to have everything with the minimun effort.

    I think m]ost people complaining just want to get their weapon to +15, they aren't crazy enough to enchant (or even make) a full set. But for people who don't already have loads of in-game wealth, the rng element can make the weapon alone crazy expensive, and feedstock is bottleneck.
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