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We got a good patch (from patch notes) but some issues I want to be addressed too please.

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  • sanj66 wrote: »
    Apen wrote: »
    tiama wrote: »
    Apen wrote: »
    tiama wrote: »
    I would not agree to any of the above 3 being 'priorities' at all. They are honestly not of even a moderate concern to the average short or long term player

    They're all priorities to players who care enough about the game to bring their issues to the forums in hope of change. The average short term player doesn't matter unless they're spending absurd amounts of money on EMP. The average long term player obviously cares about their ability to enchant their gear efficiently, as they'll have to repeat the process every few months on their main and any alts they may have. These are things that the community has been asking for for ages, and the majority of loyal players share this sentiment.

    Not trying to be a [filtered], but you hurt our chances of fixing the game when you downplay issues that the community want to see solved.

    You say 'fixing the game' like the current system is broken, there is plenty of feedstock in circulation, the same with alkahest. It is not hard in any way to get these materials at all. Do some mindless iod bam VG's and a couple celestial arena's, switch toons and do it again. Or, if that doesn't take your fancy, just do some dungeons. Viola you have plenty of feedstock and VG credits to spend on alkahest. I've played this game for 4 years and getting 8 alt's into midtier gear +12 has never been easier, 7 toons took me 1 day each and the 8th took 2 because I was being lazy. Maybe you guys just need to get off your lazy butts and go and get what you need/want instead of asking for it all to be handed to you in greater proportions than it already is. It takes very little time and effort. Not trying to be a [filtered], but just saying :)

    I have every class geared in at least Guile on MT, but I can play for most of the day. If you say can get full +12 Guile in one day on every one of your alts you either already had lots of money to begin with, swiped for it, or you're a liar. As a matter of fact I made a Berserker on Fey Forest just to test it out, and it took 3 days to get from level one with no money to full +12 Guile. Only a minority of active players can spend 8+ hours grinding every day, so don't act like having a job, classes to attend, or a family to support and care for is being lazy. Also what about VM gear? I want to see how fast you can get +15 ambush with no money or mats stashed away.

    vm +15 is not meant to be obtained immediately its meant to be grind for, to first get the gear and obtain it. you can get guile +12 in a day, just be smart how you farm and what you farm, at 65 you get tons of t9 feed from the 65 story quest, then you have your dailies and even after completing 8 dailies you can still farm more, getting the pick up drops in dungeons or farming bg creds in the power hours for boxes. you cant expect to play casual and get +15 ambush in a snap of your fingers even though some people have been lucky to get +15 in single digit attempts.

    Please point me to where I said VM was meant to be obtained easily. I was only referring to the enchantment materials for +15, not the materials to craft it. I was asking a specific question to a specific person on a specific topic. If you can get Guile +12 in one day from nothing then please go do it and upload a video showing us your "smart" method of farming. That goes for both of you.
  • sanj66sanj66 ✭✭✭✭
    LesbianVi wrote: »
    is it about farming? why people continuously wanna say I am better than you? It is not about farming, The need for them is obvious, enchantment boon is there and it is obsolete, we need more ways to spend our VG credits, is it really hard to understand? Also some players don't like PVP at all, so they should be forced to do BG to get bonanza box? and from dungeon you are gonna get the heavy number of SES, MES, SB?

    Things that should happen doesn't look for agreement, as I said before, if you are good at game and you got hours to play don't expect others to be the same. Lots of players have altitus, they play the game on various chars on various servers. They don't farm stuff on one char then chill on HW.

    i dont think you understand what you, yourself posted in the opening post,
    LesbianVi wrote: »

    3: Enchantmen Bonanza Box on Vanguard merchant: It is about enchanting mats, so it goes to enchant gears, would be nice to force some strict pve players to do PVP to get that. Also with other stuff in the PVP shop, so it will be nice to be able to get it with Vanguard credits.
    you literally said here to remove the boon boxes and add it to pvp and now you are saying why force pve players to do bgs to get boxes.......so if you dont want to put any effort into the game you should get rewarded? yes there should be more ways to spend vg credits, but there is no issue with feedstock etc. pvp players have the bonanza boxes, pve players have dungeon and bam drops, they both get a bonus from a vanguard daily. ye the boon box needs updating but not to make it uneven to the pve side.
  • LesbianViLesbianVi ✭✭✭✭✭
    sanj66 wrote: »
    LesbianVi wrote: »
    is it about farming? why people continuously wanna say I am better than you? It is not about farming, The need for them is obvious, enchantment boon is there and it is obsolete, we need more ways to spend our VG credits, is it really hard to understand? Also some players don't like PVP at all, so they should be forced to do BG to get bonanza box? and from dungeon you are gonna get the heavy number of SES, MES, SB?

    Things that should happen doesn't look for agreement, as I said before, if you are good at game and you got hours to play don't expect others to be the same. Lots of players have altitus, they play the game on various chars on various servers. They don't farm stuff on one char then chill on HW.

    i dont think you understand what you, yourself posted in the opening post,
    LesbianVi wrote: »

    3: Enchantmen Bonanza Box on Vanguard merchant: It is about enchanting mats, so it goes to enchant gears, would be nice to force some strict pve players to do PVP to get that. Also with other stuff in the PVP shop, so it will be nice to be able to get it with Vanguard credits.
    you literally said here to remove the boon boxes and add it to pvp and now you are saying why force pve players to do bgs to get boxes.......so if you dont want to put any effort into the game you should get rewarded? yes there should be more ways to spend vg credits, but there is no issue with feedstock etc. pvp players have the bonanza boxes, pve players have dungeon and bam drops, they both get a bonus from a vanguard daily. ye the boon box needs updating but not to make it uneven to the pve side.

    Are you OK?
  • sanj66sanj66 ✭✭✭✭
    LesbianVi wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    LesbianVi wrote: »
    is it about farming? why people continuously wanna say I am better than you? It is not about farming, The need for them is obvious, enchantment boon is there and it is obsolete, we need more ways to spend our VG credits, is it really hard to understand? Also some players don't like PVP at all, so they should be forced to do BG to get bonanza box? and from dungeon you are gonna get the heavy number of SES, MES, SB?

    Things that should happen doesn't look for agreement, as I said before, if you are good at game and you got hours to play don't expect others to be the same. Lots of players have altitus, they play the game on various chars on various servers. They don't farm stuff on one char then chill on HW.

    i dont think you understand what you, yourself posted in the opening post,
    LesbianVi wrote: »

    3: Enchantmen Bonanza Box on Vanguard merchant: It is about enchanting mats, so it goes to enchant gears, would be nice to force some strict pve players to do PVP to get that. Also with other stuff in the PVP shop, so it will be nice to be able to get it with Vanguard credits.
    you literally said here to remove the boon boxes and add it to pvp and now you are saying why force pve players to do bgs to get boxes.......so if you dont want to put any effort into the game you should get rewarded? yes there should be more ways to spend vg credits, but there is no issue with feedstock etc. pvp players have the bonanza boxes, pve players have dungeon and bam drops, they both get a bonus from a vanguard daily. ye the boon box needs updating but not to make it uneven to the pve side.

    Are you OK?

    the question is for you, your opening statement and what you posted just now contradict each other completely asi pointed out with YOUR own posts quoted.
  • sanj66sanj66 ✭✭✭✭
    Apen wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Apen wrote: »
    tiama wrote: »
    Apen wrote: »
    tiama wrote: »
    I would not agree to any of the above 3 being 'priorities' at all. They are honestly not of even a moderate concern to the average short or long term player

    They're all priorities to players who care enough about the game to bring their issues to the forums in hope of change. The average short term player doesn't matter unless they're spending absurd amounts of money on EMP. The average long term player obviously cares about their ability to enchant their gear efficiently, as they'll have to repeat the process every few months on their main and any alts they may have. These are things that the community has been asking for for ages, and the majority of loyal players share this sentiment.

    Not trying to be a [filtered], but you hurt our chances of fixing the game when you downplay issues that the community want to see solved.

    You say 'fixing the game' like the current system is broken, there is plenty of feedstock in circulation, the same with alkahest. It is not hard in any way to get these materials at all. Do some mindless iod bam VG's and a couple celestial arena's, switch toons and do it again. Or, if that doesn't take your fancy, just do some dungeons. Viola you have plenty of feedstock and VG credits to spend on alkahest. I've played this game for 4 years and getting 8 alt's into midtier gear +12 has never been easier, 7 toons took me 1 day each and the 8th took 2 because I was being lazy. Maybe you guys just need to get off your lazy butts and go and get what you need/want instead of asking for it all to be handed to you in greater proportions than it already is. It takes very little time and effort. Not trying to be a [filtered], but just saying :)

    I have every class geared in at least Guile on MT, but I can play for most of the day. If you say can get full +12 Guile in one day on every one of your alts you either already had lots of money to begin with, swiped for it, or you're a liar. As a matter of fact I made a Berserker on Fey Forest just to test it out, and it took 3 days to get from level one with no money to full +12 Guile. Only a minority of active players can spend 8+ hours grinding every day, so don't act like having a job, classes to attend, or a family to support and care for is being lazy. Also what about VM gear? I want to see how fast you can get +15 ambush with no money or mats stashed away.

    vm +15 is not meant to be obtained immediately its meant to be grind for, to first get the gear and obtain it. you can get guile +12 in a day, just be smart how you farm and what you farm, at 65 you get tons of t9 feed from the 65 story quest, then you have your dailies and even after completing 8 dailies you can still farm more, getting the pick up drops in dungeons or farming bg creds in the power hours for boxes. you cant expect to play casual and get +15 ambush in a snap of your fingers even though some people have been lucky to get +15 in single digit attempts.

    Please point me to where I said VM was meant to be obtained easily. I was only referring to the enchantment materials for +15, not the materials to craft it. I was asking a specific question to a specific person on a specific topic. If you can get Guile +12 in one day from nothing then please go do it and upload a video showing us your "smart" method of farming. That goes for both of you.

    and again the enchantment materials are not hard to get, do your dailies farm boxes and play an alt or 2. +15 is not meant to be gotten easily, thats the point of it being rng, and you dont even need +15 for anything, i was doing rmhm etc in gear from 2 patches ago. it took you 3 days, did you do all your story quests from dougal and iod, celestial arena and do bgs? or did you jsut get to 65 and then tried to do dungeons straight away? i will be honest i am too lazy to go make a video but it also seems alot of you are too lazy to play the game and just want hand outs. i came into this patch and left it with the same if not more materials for enchanting in my bank and i +15ed 4 characters from the mats i farmed and i didnt have luck like some people, nothing took me less than 40-50 attempts, so if you cant figure out how to effectively get enchantment materials then that is your own fault and problem, not anyone else and not enmasse for them to do another poor mongo event for free handouts.
  • sanj66 wrote: »
    Apen wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Apen wrote: »
    tiama wrote: »
    Apen wrote: »
    tiama wrote: »
    I would not agree to any of the above 3 being 'priorities' at all. They are honestly not of even a moderate concern to the average short or long term player

    They're all priorities to players who care enough about the game to bring their issues to the forums in hope of change. The average short term player doesn't matter unless they're spending absurd amounts of money on EMP. The average long term player obviously cares about their ability to enchant their gear efficiently, as they'll have to repeat the process every few months on their main and any alts they may have. These are things that the community has been asking for for ages, and the majority of loyal players share this sentiment.

    Not trying to be a [filtered], but you hurt our chances of fixing the game when you downplay issues that the community want to see solved.

    You say 'fixing the game' like the current system is broken, there is plenty of feedstock in circulation, the same with alkahest. It is not hard in any way to get these materials at all. Do some mindless iod bam VG's and a couple celestial arena's, switch toons and do it again. Or, if that doesn't take your fancy, just do some dungeons. Viola you have plenty of feedstock and VG credits to spend on alkahest. I've played this game for 4 years and getting 8 alt's into midtier gear +12 has never been easier, 7 toons took me 1 day each and the 8th took 2 because I was being lazy. Maybe you guys just need to get off your lazy butts and go and get what you need/want instead of asking for it all to be handed to you in greater proportions than it already is. It takes very little time and effort. Not trying to be a [filtered], but just saying :)

    I have every class geared in at least Guile on MT, but I can play for most of the day. If you say can get full +12 Guile in one day on every one of your alts you either already had lots of money to begin with, swiped for it, or you're a liar. As a matter of fact I made a Berserker on Fey Forest just to test it out, and it took 3 days to get from level one with no money to full +12 Guile. Only a minority of active players can spend 8+ hours grinding every day, so don't act like having a job, classes to attend, or a family to support and care for is being lazy. Also what about VM gear? I want to see how fast you can get +15 ambush with no money or mats stashed away.

    vm +15 is not meant to be obtained immediately its meant to be grind for, to first get the gear and obtain it. you can get guile +12 in a day, just be smart how you farm and what you farm, at 65 you get tons of t9 feed from the 65 story quest, then you have your dailies and even after completing 8 dailies you can still farm more, getting the pick up drops in dungeons or farming bg creds in the power hours for boxes. you cant expect to play casual and get +15 ambush in a snap of your fingers even though some people have been lucky to get +15 in single digit attempts.

    Please point me to where I said VM was meant to be obtained easily. I was only referring to the enchantment materials for +15, not the materials to craft it. I was asking a specific question to a specific person on a specific topic. If you can get Guile +12 in one day from nothing then please go do it and upload a video showing us your "smart" method of farming. That goes for both of you.

    and again the enchantment materials are not hard to get, do your dailies farm boxes and play an alt or 2. +15 is not meant to be gotten easily, thats the point of it being rng, and you dont even need +15 for anything, i was doing rmhm etc in gear from 2 patches ago. it took you 3 days, did you do all your story quests from dougal and iod, celestial arena and do bgs? or did you jsut get to 65 and then tried to do dungeons straight away? i will be honest i am too lazy to go make a video but it also seems alot of you are too lazy to play the game and just want hand outs. i came into this patch and left it with the same if not more materials for enchanting in my bank and i +15ed 4 characters from the mats i farmed and i didnt have luck like some people, nothing took me less than 40-50 attempts, so if you cant figure out how to effectively get enchantment materials then that is your own fault and problem, not anyone else and not enmasse for them to do another poor mongo event for free handouts.

    Okay, now I see that you literally can't comprehend what you read. Good day sir.
  • LesbianViLesbianVi ✭✭✭✭✭
    sanj66 wrote: »
    LesbianVi wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    LesbianVi wrote: »
    is it about farming? why people continuously wanna say I am better than you? It is not about farming, The need for them is obvious, enchantment boon is there and it is obsolete, we need more ways to spend our VG credits, is it really hard to understand? Also some players don't like PVP at all, so they should be forced to do BG to get bonanza box? and from dungeon you are gonna get the heavy number of SES, MES, SB?

    Things that should happen doesn't look for agreement, as I said before, if you are good at game and you got hours to play don't expect others to be the same. Lots of players have altitus, they play the game on various chars on various servers. They don't farm stuff on one char then chill on HW.

    i dont think you understand what you, yourself posted in the opening post,
    LesbianVi wrote: »

    3: Enchantmen Bonanza Box on Vanguard merchant: It is about enchanting mats, so it goes to enchant gears, would be nice to force some strict pve players to do PVP to get that. Also with other stuff in the PVP shop, so it will be nice to be able to get it with Vanguard credits.
    you literally said here to remove the boon boxes and add it to pvp and now you are saying why force pve players to do bgs to get boxes.......so if you dont want to put any effort into the game you should get rewarded? yes there should be more ways to spend vg credits, but there is no issue with feedstock etc. pvp players have the bonanza boxes, pve players have dungeon and bam drops, they both get a bonus from a vanguard daily. ye the boon box needs updating but not to make it uneven to the pve side.

    Are you OK?

    the question is for you, your opening statement and what you posted just now contradict each other completely asi pointed out with YOUR own posts quoted.

    well, I sense that it might destroy some players market, so they deny things that are simple and are in game and just needs updates. Also I said it would be nice to force them cause that makes pvp ques lower I don't have to get details if you are as good as you say you are, I said it will be also nice to add that to merchant box, not to remove it. lols
  • sanj66sanj66 ✭✭✭✭
    Apen wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Apen wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Apen wrote: »
    tiama wrote: »
    Apen wrote: »
    tiama wrote: »
    I would not agree to any of the above 3 being 'priorities' at all. They are honestly not of even a moderate concern to the average short or long term player

    They're all priorities to players who care enough about the game to bring their issues to the forums in hope of change. The average short term player doesn't matter unless they're spending absurd amounts of money on EMP. The average long term player obviously cares about their ability to enchant their gear efficiently, as they'll have to repeat the process every few months on their main and any alts they may have. These are things that the community has been asking for for ages, and the majority of loyal players share this sentiment.

    Not trying to be a [filtered], but you hurt our chances of fixing the game when you downplay issues that the community want to see solved.

    You say 'fixing the game' like the current system is broken, there is plenty of feedstock in circulation, the same with alkahest. It is not hard in any way to get these materials at all. Do some mindless iod bam VG's and a couple celestial arena's, switch toons and do it again. Or, if that doesn't take your fancy, just do some dungeons. Viola you have plenty of feedstock and VG credits to spend on alkahest. I've played this game for 4 years and getting 8 alt's into midtier gear +12 has never been easier, 7 toons took me 1 day each and the 8th took 2 because I was being lazy. Maybe you guys just need to get off your lazy butts and go and get what you need/want instead of asking for it all to be handed to you in greater proportions than it already is. It takes very little time and effort. Not trying to be a [filtered], but just saying :)

    I have every class geared in at least Guile on MT, but I can play for most of the day. If you say can get full +12 Guile in one day on every one of your alts you either already had lots of money to begin with, swiped for it, or you're a liar. As a matter of fact I made a Berserker on Fey Forest just to test it out, and it took 3 days to get from level one with no money to full +12 Guile. Only a minority of active players can spend 8+ hours grinding every day, so don't act like having a job, classes to attend, or a family to support and care for is being lazy. Also what about VM gear? I want to see how fast you can get +15 ambush with no money or mats stashed away.

    vm +15 is not meant to be obtained immediately its meant to be grind for, to first get the gear and obtain it. you can get guile +12 in a day, just be smart how you farm and what you farm, at 65 you get tons of t9 feed from the 65 story quest, then you have your dailies and even after completing 8 dailies you can still farm more, getting the pick up drops in dungeons or farming bg creds in the power hours for boxes. you cant expect to play casual and get +15 ambush in a snap of your fingers even though some people have been lucky to get +15 in single digit attempts.

    Please point me to where I said VM was meant to be obtained easily. I was only referring to the enchantment materials for +15, not the materials to craft it. I was asking a specific question to a specific person on a specific topic. If you can get Guile +12 in one day from nothing then please go do it and upload a video showing us your "smart" method of farming. That goes for both of you.

    and again the enchantment materials are not hard to get, do your dailies farm boxes and play an alt or 2. +15 is not meant to be gotten easily, thats the point of it being rng, and you dont even need +15 for anything, i was doing rmhm etc in gear from 2 patches ago. it took you 3 days, did you do all your story quests from dougal and iod, celestial arena and do bgs? or did you jsut get to 65 and then tried to do dungeons straight away? i will be honest i am too lazy to go make a video but it also seems alot of you are too lazy to play the game and just want hand outs. i came into this patch and left it with the same if not more materials for enchanting in my bank and i +15ed 4 characters from the mats i farmed and i didnt have luck like some people, nothing took me less than 40-50 attempts, so if you cant figure out how to effectively get enchantment materials then that is your own fault and problem, not anyone else and not enmasse for them to do another poor mongo event for free handouts.

    Okay, now I see that you literally can't comprehend what you read. Good day sir.

    you complained about enchanting materials and i showed you that its literally faceroll once you play the game to get it, even while having bad luck, so whats your problem now? what are you going to complain about next?
  • sanj66sanj66 ✭✭✭✭
    LesbianVi wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    LesbianVi wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    LesbianVi wrote: »
    is it about farming? why people continuously wanna say I am better than you? It is not about farming, The need for them is obvious, enchantment boon is there and it is obsolete, we need more ways to spend our VG credits, is it really hard to understand? Also some players don't like PVP at all, so they should be forced to do BG to get bonanza box? and from dungeon you are gonna get the heavy number of SES, MES, SB?

    Things that should happen doesn't look for agreement, as I said before, if you are good at game and you got hours to play don't expect others to be the same. Lots of players have altitus, they play the game on various chars on various servers. They don't farm stuff on one char then chill on HW.

    i dont think you understand what you, yourself posted in the opening post,
    LesbianVi wrote: »

    3: Enchantmen Bonanza Box on Vanguard merchant: It is about enchanting mats, so it goes to enchant gears, would be nice to force some strict pve players to do PVP to get that. Also with other stuff in the PVP shop, so it will be nice to be able to get it with Vanguard credits.
    you literally said here to remove the boon boxes and add it to pvp and now you are saying why force pve players to do bgs to get boxes.......so if you dont want to put any effort into the game you should get rewarded? yes there should be more ways to spend vg credits, but there is no issue with feedstock etc. pvp players have the bonanza boxes, pve players have dungeon and bam drops, they both get a bonus from a vanguard daily. ye the boon box needs updating but not to make it uneven to the pve side.

    Are you OK?

    the question is for you, your opening statement and what you posted just now contradict each other completely asi pointed out with YOUR own posts quoted.

    well, I sense that it might destroy some players market, so they deny things that are simple and are in game and just needs updates. Also I said it would be nice to force them cause that makes pvp ques lower I don't have to get details if you are as good as you say you are, I said it will be also nice to add that to merchant box, not to remove it. lols
    your post literally said to remove it and force pve players to do bgs, how can you now say you never said to remove it.......people still wont queue pvp if they dont like pvp especially for a 2nd rng box and next patch pvp is already getting rewards that you cant obtain in pve.
  • AyiAyi ✭✭✭
    edited January 2017
    tiama wrote: »
    You mentioned how fast you can get ambush+15, this conversation and the points that I'm trying to make are about enchantment materials and not things like ladies handkerchief. By the time you have got all the caprin handles and handkerchiefs you should have enough feedstock and alk easily to enchant those gears.
    Uhh... Are we playing the same game?
  • NotArisaNotArisa
    edited January 2017
    Btw, forcing pve ppl to pvp for mats is anything EXCEPT nice, pvp players used to whine a lot about how they needed to do PvE dungeons to get their PvP gears, now that we're all "independent" lets not go right back to that.

    Pvp can get ses/universal mes/spellbinds easier? (only real thing harder to get for pve is ses really) Fine, i'll sell them thousands of t11 feed/mwa/lily/lache boxes cuz i sure as hell have more than i'll ever need, and it'll surely pay for any amount of ses i might need, it all balances out.(problem comes when u need to have all the cosmetics in existence i guess)

    Lastly to all this "i can get guile in 1 day, it takes me 3 so u cant" chat, uhh if you are a new player with 0 gold you should even be expecting to get all the way to mid tier perfect rolls, perfect everything, with access to all dungeons (the point that is the end of progression for many players) in no time at all and without any effort, not in TERA, not in any other MMO so even if it takes 3 days or 5 days, it does not matter, it still proves its easy af.
  • Apen wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Apen wrote: »
    tiama wrote: »
    Apen wrote: »
    tiama wrote: »
    I would not agree to any of the above 3 being 'priorities' at all. They are honestly not of even a moderate concern to the average short or long term player

    They're all priorities to players who care enough about the game to bring their issues to the forums in hope of change. The average short term player doesn't matter unless they're spending absurd amounts of money on EMP. The average long term player obviously cares about their ability to enchant their gear efficiently, as they'll have to repeat the process every few months on their main and any alts they may have. These are things that the community has been asking for for ages, and the majority of loyal players share this sentiment.

    Not trying to be a [filtered], but you hurt our chances of fixing the game when you downplay issues that the community want to see solved.

    You say 'fixing the game' like the current system is broken, there is plenty of feedstock in circulation, the same with alkahest. It is not hard in any way to get these materials at all. Do some mindless iod bam VG's and a couple celestial arena's, switch toons and do it again. Or, if that doesn't take your fancy, just do some dungeons. Viola you have plenty of feedstock and VG credits to spend on alkahest. I've played this game for 4 years and getting 8 alt's into midtier gear +12 has never been easier, 7 toons took me 1 day each and the 8th took 2 because I was being lazy. Maybe you guys just need to get off your lazy butts and go and get what you need/want instead of asking for it all to be handed to you in greater proportions than it already is. It takes very little time and effort. Not trying to be a [filtered], but just saying :)

    I have every class geared in at least Guile on MT, but I can play for most of the day. If you say can get full +12 Guile in one day on every one of your alts you either already had lots of money to begin with, swiped for it, or you're a liar. As a matter of fact I made a Berserker on Fey Forest just to test it out, and it took 3 days to get from level one with no money to full +12 Guile. Only a minority of active players can spend 8+ hours grinding every day, so don't act like having a job, classes to attend, or a family to support and care for is being lazy. Also what about VM gear? I want to see how fast you can get +15 ambush with no money or mats stashed away.

    vm +15 is not meant to be obtained immediately its meant to be grind for, to first get the gear and obtain it. you can get guile +12 in a day, just be smart how you farm and what you farm, at 65 you get tons of t9 feed from the 65 story quest, then you have your dailies and even after completing 8 dailies you can still farm more, getting the pick up drops in dungeons or farming bg creds in the power hours for boxes. you cant expect to play casual and get +15 ambush in a snap of your fingers even though some people have been lucky to get +15 in single digit attempts.

    Please point me to where I said VM was meant to be obtained easily. I was only referring to the enchantment materials for +15, not the materials to craft it. I was asking a specific question to a specific person on a specific topic. If you can get Guile +12 in one day from nothing then please go do it and upload a video showing us your "smart" method of farming. That goes for both of you.

    You are just one of these people that wants it all and wants it now. Feedstock is easy to get, alk is easy to get. We don't NEED these boxes fixed right now. It is not a serious problem to the game. It is not a priority. 3 people in this thread have said the same thing to you, but you refuse to believe what we say, I don't see how that is our problem. People like you and Vi are the ones that stand afkand 'chill in Highwatch' all day and wonder why you don't profit from it. Come onto the forums, have a little whine if it makes you feel better but don't get all snarky when people tell you that you're wrong
  • xoBarbxoBarb ✭✭✭
    Why do only PVE vgs give noct?
  • LesbianViLesbianVi ✭✭✭✭✭
    as I said before, only possible reasons I see for people doesn't want updates like these and saying you want things easy are the people that see this as a threat to their marketing and afking on HW.
  • ApenApen
    edited January 2017
    tiama wrote: »
    Apen wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Apen wrote: »
    tiama wrote: »
    Apen wrote: »
    tiama wrote: »
    I would not agree to any of the above 3 being 'priorities' at all. They are honestly not of even a moderate concern to the average short or long term player

    They're all priorities to players who care enough about the game to bring their issues to the forums in hope of change. The average short term player doesn't matter unless they're spending absurd amounts of money on EMP. The average long term player obviously cares about their ability to enchant their gear efficiently, as they'll have to repeat the process every few months on their main and any alts they may have. These are things that the community has been asking for for ages, and the majority of loyal players share this sentiment.

    Not trying to be a [filtered], but you hurt our chances of fixing the game when you downplay issues that the community want to see solved.

    You say 'fixing the game' like the current system is broken, there is plenty of feedstock in circulation, the same with alkahest. It is not hard in any way to get these materials at all. Do some mindless iod bam VG's and a couple celestial arena's, switch toons and do it again. Or, if that doesn't take your fancy, just do some dungeons. Viola you have plenty of feedstock and VG credits to spend on alkahest. I've played this game for 4 years and getting 8 alt's into midtier gear +12 has never been easier, 7 toons took me 1 day each and the 8th took 2 because I was being lazy. Maybe you guys just need to get off your lazy butts and go and get what you need/want instead of asking for it all to be handed to you in greater proportions than it already is. It takes very little time and effort. Not trying to be a [filtered], but just saying :)

    I have every class geared in at least Guile on MT, but I can play for most of the day. If you say can get full +12 Guile in one day on every one of your alts you either already had lots of money to begin with, swiped for it, or you're a liar. As a matter of fact I made a Berserker on Fey Forest just to test it out, and it took 3 days to get from level one with no money to full +12 Guile. Only a minority of active players can spend 8+ hours grinding every day, so don't act like having a job, classes to attend, or a family to support and care for is being lazy. Also what about VM gear? I want to see how fast you can get +15 ambush with no money or mats stashed away.

    vm +15 is not meant to be obtained immediately its meant to be grind for, to first get the gear and obtain it. you can get guile +12 in a day, just be smart how you farm and what you farm, at 65 you get tons of t9 feed from the 65 story quest, then you have your dailies and even after completing 8 dailies you can still farm more, getting the pick up drops in dungeons or farming bg creds in the power hours for boxes. you cant expect to play casual and get +15 ambush in a snap of your fingers even though some people have been lucky to get +15 in single digit attempts.

    Please point me to where I said VM was meant to be obtained easily. I was only referring to the enchantment materials for +15, not the materials to craft it. I was asking a specific question to a specific person on a specific topic. If you can get Guile +12 in one day from nothing then please go do it and upload a video showing us your "smart" method of farming. That goes for both of you.

    You are just one of these people that wants it all and wants it now. Feedstock is easy to get, alk is easy to get. We don't NEED these boxes fixed right now. It is not a serious problem to the game. It is not a priority. 3 people in this thread have said the same thing to you, but you refuse to believe what we say, I don't see how that is our problem. People like you and Vi are the ones that stand afkand 'chill in Highwatch' all day and wonder why you don't profit from it. Come onto the forums, have a little whine if it makes you feel better but don't get all snarky when people tell you that you're wrong

    Still waiting on that video.
    NotArisa wrote: »
    Lastly to all this "i can get guile in 1 day, it takes me 3 so u cant" chat, uhh if you are a new player with 0 gold you should even be expecting to get all the way to mid tier perfect rolls, perfect everything, with access to all dungeons (the point that is the end of progression for many players) in no time at all and without any effort, not in TERA, not in any other MMO so even if it takes 3 days or 5 days, it does not matter, it still proves its easy af.

    That's coming from two people who've been playing for years. Most new players take weeks just to get 65....
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