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We got a good patch (from patch notes) but some issues I want to be addressed too please.

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  • tiamatiama ✭✭
    LesbianVi wrote: »
    as I said before, only possible reasons I see for people doesn't want updates like these and saying you want things easy are the people that see this as a threat to their marketing and afking on HW.

    I did not say I did not want them. I said they are NOT at 'Highest PRIORITY' for EME and it isn't something they should start working on or even looking into right now. Learn to actually read what people post before you comment back. ALL the post I ever see you make on these forums is you moaning about something or asking for something more. No wonder you have a materials problem, you spend all your time here complaining and asking for stuff. ie.
    Change boxes they are not good enough
    Heavy lag spikes from Eu.. (I play from EU and rarely spike)
    Free compensation for the forums being down (asking for something for nothing..again)
    3-10 second lag spikes (complaining again... maybe you should get better net. Just a tip)
    Another Forum post about enchantment boon box!
    Etching NEEDS a revamp
    Unbalanced Kumas
    We NEED pants for female characters
    ANOTHER FORUM POST ABOUT ENCHANTMENT BOON BOX!!
    Store and Marketing NEEDS more improvement

    Like, do you even play the game or are just sat on forums 24/7 making "suggestions" of how the game can be "better"
    i.Am.Out

  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2017
    Apen wrote: »
    Okay, now I see that you literally can't comprehend what you read. Good day sir.
    They aren't going to answer your question because they're exaggerating. Would also like to point out 1,000 T10 feedstock a day isn't really a whole lot either, that's only 15,000 T11, enough to 1->15 a weapon assuming you aren't unlucky, if you are, then you're looking at ~2 months to +15 a single piece without buying feedstock.
    tiama wrote: »
    By the time you have got all the caprin handles and handkerchiefs you should have enough feedstock and alk easily to enchant those gears.
    Interesting, I have made Ambush this patch for 4 of my own characters, and another 3 full sets for 3 other people. Did not earn enough feedstock doing RMHM/IOD during that period to even +15 one of the sets, the vast majority of feedstock I used to +15 multiple full sets came from assets accumulated over the years of playing. It's also how I +15ed full sets in the previous patch as well. I would also like to point out my own characters weren't even unlucky from 1 to 15.

    By the way, I also don't think these should be priority issues, I don't think feed stock should come from VG Shops.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    LesbianVi wrote: »
    I like that patch, many good things about it. But what issues I was talking about?

    1: Enchantment Boon Box: This one needs update and improve to solve the problem with feedstock. This is a priority.

    2: Enchantment scrolls update; Both friendship scrolls and also Emporium Reward store. Tier 8 and Tier 9 doesn't really help the player to +12 or +9. Change all scrolls to +9 Tier (Mid Tier whenever added) for low tier Reward Store and Enchantment scroll update.

    3: Enchantmen Bonanza Box on Vanguard merchant: It is about enchanting mats, so it goes to enchant gears, would be nice to force some strict pve players to do PVP to get that. Also with other stuff in the PVP shop, so it will be also nice to be able to get it with Vanguard credits.

    These are priorities for now I think :D

    @Spacecats & @Noesis , Thanks for the patch and consider these anytime soon plz o:)

    1: Aggree, is just ridiculous to get 15 t9 fs from them.
    2: Those must be updated according new mid gear, so they should enchant +9 t10 and t11 when new VM gear arrives.
    3: I do think almost everything is too expensive in Bellicarium and Killing Spree shops, I think that whould be better if those would give you credits to buy stuff from only one shop and not split the stuff in 2 stores.

    I aggree that info about posibles changes on credits and shops from BG's should be priority.
  • sanj66sanj66 ✭✭✭✭
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Apen wrote: »
    Okay, now I see that you literally can't comprehend what you read. Good day sir.
    They aren't going to answer your question because they're exaggerating. Would also like to point out 1,000 T10 feedstock a day isn't really a whole lot either, that's only 15,000 T11, enough to 1->15 a weapon assuming you aren't unlucky, if you are, then you're looking at ~2 months to +15 a single piece without buying feedstock.
    tiama wrote: »
    By the time you have got all the caprin handles and handkerchiefs you should have enough feedstock and alk easily to enchant those gears.
    Interesting, I have made Ambush this patch for 4 of my own characters, and another 3 full sets for 3 other people. Did not earn enough feedstock doing RMHM/IOD during that period to even +15 one of the sets, the vast majority of feedstock I used to +15 multiple full sets came from assets accumulated over the years of playing. It's also how I +15ed full sets in the previous patch as well. I would also like to point out my own characters weren't even unlucky from 1 to 15.

    By the way, I also don't think these should be priority issues, I don't think feed stock should come from VG Shops.

    its not exaggerating, you get enough feed and alks from the story quest to +12 a guile set easy, you do know you can literally enchant +10-12 with using the base feed and the bound premium alks and get +12 with less feed and way less feed than it took you to get to +9? thats how you have people walking around with sets that took less than 1k feed total or just above it.
  • LesbianViLesbianVi ✭✭✭✭✭
    tiama wrote: »
    LesbianVi wrote: »
    as I said before, only possible reasons I see for people doesn't want updates like these and saying you want things easy are the people that see this as a threat to their marketing and afking on HW.

    I did not say I did not want them. I said they are NOT at 'Highest PRIORITY' for EME and it isn't something they should start working on or even looking into right now. Learn to actually read what people post before you comment back. ALL the post I ever see you make on these forums is you moaning about something or asking for something more. No wonder you have a materials problem, you spend all your time here complaining and asking for stuff. ie.
    Change boxes they are not good enough
    Heavy lag spikes from Eu.. (I play from EU and rarely spike)
    Free compensation for the forums being down (asking for something for nothing..again)
    3-10 second lag spikes (complaining again... maybe you should get better net. Just a tip)
    Another Forum post about enchantment boon box!
    Etching NEEDS a revamp
    Unbalanced Kumas
    We NEED pants for female characters
    ANOTHER FORUM POST ABOUT ENCHANTMENT BOON BOX!!
    Store and Marketing NEEDS more improvement

    Like, do you even play the game or are just sat on forums 24/7 making "suggestions" of how the game can be "better"
    i.Am.Out

    I have been playing the game each day for 2 to 3 hours, so shut up, tnx. Also if it takes you hours to BS ppl, it takes me couple of minutes. Also what I pointed out in those threads shows I play way more than you, how many Kumas changed happened? Feedstock events, why they happened? and what is the point of reading all my threads and pointing out them here? don't you have a life? You are by far the most idiot user I have encountered in forums.

    We need to block more than 5 people.

    and stay out, tnx.
  • sanj66sanj66 ✭✭✭✭
    LesbianVi wrote: »
    tiama wrote: »
    LesbianVi wrote: »
    as I said before, only possible reasons I see for people doesn't want updates like these and saying you want things easy are the people that see this as a threat to their marketing and afking on HW.

    I did not say I did not want them. I said they are NOT at 'Highest PRIORITY' for EME and it isn't something they should start working on or even looking into right now. Learn to actually read what people post before you comment back. ALL the post I ever see you make on these forums is you moaning about something or asking for something more. No wonder you have a materials problem, you spend all your time here complaining and asking for stuff. ie.
    Change boxes they are not good enough
    Heavy lag spikes from Eu.. (I play from EU and rarely spike)
    Free compensation for the forums being down (asking for something for nothing..again)
    3-10 second lag spikes (complaining again... maybe you should get better net. Just a tip)
    Another Forum post about enchantment boon box!
    Etching NEEDS a revamp
    Unbalanced Kumas
    We NEED pants for female characters
    ANOTHER FORUM POST ABOUT ENCHANTMENT BOON BOX!!
    Store and Marketing NEEDS more improvement

    Like, do you even play the game or are just sat on forums 24/7 making "suggestions" of how the game can be "better"
    i.Am.Out

    I have been playing the game each day for 2 to 3 hours, so shut up, tnx. Also if it takes you hours to BS ppl, it takes me couple of minutes. Also what I pointed out in those threads shows I play way more than you, how many Kumas changed happened? Feedstock events, why they happened? and what is the point of reading all my threads and pointing out them here? don't you have a life? You are by far the most idiot user I have encountered in forums.

    We need to block more than 5 people.

    and stay out, tnx.

    you know why they changed? because they are fed up of people whining on the forums and just trying to please everyone to keep their player base, its pr, it doesnt mean there is a legit problem or they identify it as one.
  • LesbianViLesbianVi ✭✭✭✭✭
    sanj66 wrote: »
    LesbianVi wrote: »
    tiama wrote: »
    LesbianVi wrote: »
    as I said before, only possible reasons I see for people doesn't want updates like these and saying you want things easy are the people that see this as a threat to their marketing and afking on HW.

    I did not say I did not want them. I said they are NOT at 'Highest PRIORITY' for EME and it isn't something they should start working on or even looking into right now. Learn to actually read what people post before you comment back. ALL the post I ever see you make on these forums is you moaning about something or asking for something more. No wonder you have a materials problem, you spend all your time here complaining and asking for stuff. ie.
    Change boxes they are not good enough
    Heavy lag spikes from Eu.. (I play from EU and rarely spike)
    Free compensation for the forums being down (asking for something for nothing..again)
    3-10 second lag spikes (complaining again... maybe you should get better net. Just a tip)
    Another Forum post about enchantment boon box!
    Etching NEEDS a revamp
    Unbalanced Kumas
    We NEED pants for female characters
    ANOTHER FORUM POST ABOUT ENCHANTMENT BOON BOX!!
    Store and Marketing NEEDS more improvement

    Like, do you even play the game or are just sat on forums 24/7 making "suggestions" of how the game can be "better"
    i.Am.Out

    I have been playing the game each day for 2 to 3 hours, so shut up, tnx. Also if it takes you hours to BS ppl, it takes me couple of minutes. Also what I pointed out in those threads shows I play way more than you, how many Kumas changed happened? Feedstock events, why they happened? and what is the point of reading all my threads and pointing out them here? don't you have a life? You are by far the most idiot user I have encountered in forums.

    We need to block more than 5 people.

    and stay out, tnx.

    you know why they changed? because they are fed up of people whining on the forums and just trying to please everyone to keep their player base, its pr, it doesnt mean there is a legit problem or they identify it as one.

    you keep failing to deliver any actual bias. drop it.
  • ApenApen ✭
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Apen wrote: »
    Okay, now I see that you literally can't comprehend what you read. Good day sir.
    They aren't going to answer your question because they're exaggerating. Would also like to point out 1,000 T10 feedstock a day isn't really a whole lot either, that's only 15,000 T11, enough to 1->15 a weapon assuming you aren't unlucky, if you are, then you're looking at ~2 months to +15 a single piece without buying feedstock.
    tiama wrote: »
    By the time you have got all the caprin handles and handkerchiefs you should have enough feedstock and alk easily to enchant those gears.
    Interesting, I have made Ambush this patch for 4 of my own characters, and another 3 full sets for 3 other people. Did not earn enough feedstock doing RMHM/IOD during that period to even +15 one of the sets, the vast majority of feedstock I used to +15 multiple full sets came from assets accumulated over the years of playing. It's also how I +15ed full sets in the previous patch as well. I would also like to point out my own characters weren't even unlucky from 1 to 15.

    By the way, I also don't think these should be priority issues, I don't think feed stock should come from VG Shops.

    its not exaggerating, you get enough feed and alks from the story quest to +12 a guile set easy, you do know you can literally enchant +10-12 with using the base feed and the bound premium alks and get +12 with less feed and way less feed than it took you to get to +9? thats how you have people walking around with sets that took less than 1k feed total or just above it.

    The story quests barely give enough to +12 slaughter. Try again.
  • sanj66sanj66 ✭✭✭✭
    Apen wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Apen wrote: »
    Okay, now I see that you literally can't comprehend what you read. Good day sir.
    They aren't going to answer your question because they're exaggerating. Would also like to point out 1,000 T10 feedstock a day isn't really a whole lot either, that's only 15,000 T11, enough to 1->15 a weapon assuming you aren't unlucky, if you are, then you're looking at ~2 months to +15 a single piece without buying feedstock.
    tiama wrote: »
    By the time you have got all the caprin handles and handkerchiefs you should have enough feedstock and alk easily to enchant those gears.
    Interesting, I have made Ambush this patch for 4 of my own characters, and another 3 full sets for 3 other people. Did not earn enough feedstock doing RMHM/IOD during that period to even +15 one of the sets, the vast majority of feedstock I used to +15 multiple full sets came from assets accumulated over the years of playing. It's also how I +15ed full sets in the previous patch as well. I would also like to point out my own characters weren't even unlucky from 1 to 15.

    By the way, I also don't think these should be priority issues, I don't think feed stock should come from VG Shops.

    its not exaggerating, you get enough feed and alks from the story quest to +12 a guile set easy, you do know you can literally enchant +10-12 with using the base feed and the bound premium alks and get +12 with less feed and way less feed than it took you to get to +9? thats how you have people walking around with sets that took less than 1k feed total or just above it.

    The story quests barely give enough to +12 slaughter. Try again.

    u get like 1500+ feed from the story quests, plus alks and you failed to +12 slaughter?
  • ApenApen ✭
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Apen wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Apen wrote: »
    Okay, now I see that you literally can't comprehend what you read. Good day sir.
    They aren't going to answer your question because they're exaggerating. Would also like to point out 1,000 T10 feedstock a day isn't really a whole lot either, that's only 15,000 T11, enough to 1->15 a weapon assuming you aren't unlucky, if you are, then you're looking at ~2 months to +15 a single piece without buying feedstock.
    tiama wrote: »
    By the time you have got all the caprin handles and handkerchiefs you should have enough feedstock and alk easily to enchant those gears.
    Interesting, I have made Ambush this patch for 4 of my own characters, and another 3 full sets for 3 other people. Did not earn enough feedstock doing RMHM/IOD during that period to even +15 one of the sets, the vast majority of feedstock I used to +15 multiple full sets came from assets accumulated over the years of playing. It's also how I +15ed full sets in the previous patch as well. I would also like to point out my own characters weren't even unlucky from 1 to 15.

    By the way, I also don't think these should be priority issues, I don't think feed stock should come from VG Shops.

    its not exaggerating, you get enough feed and alks from the story quest to +12 a guile set easy, you do know you can literally enchant +10-12 with using the base feed and the bound premium alks and get +12 with less feed and way less feed than it took you to get to +9? thats how you have people walking around with sets that took less than 1k feed total or just above it.

    The story quests barely give enough to +12 slaughter. Try again.

    u get like 1500+ feed from the story quests, plus alks and you failed to +12 slaughter?

    1500 t9 is enough to +12 guile?
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Apen wrote: »
    Okay, now I see that you literally can't comprehend what you read. Good day sir.
    They aren't going to answer your question because they're exaggerating. Would also like to point out 1,000 T10 feedstock a day isn't really a whole lot either, that's only 15,000 T11, enough to 1->15 a weapon assuming you aren't unlucky, if you are, then you're looking at ~2 months to +15 a single piece without buying feedstock.
    tiama wrote: »
    By the time you have got all the caprin handles and handkerchiefs you should have enough feedstock and alk easily to enchant those gears.
    Interesting, I have made Ambush this patch for 4 of my own characters, and another 3 full sets for 3 other people. Did not earn enough feedstock doing RMHM/IOD during that period to even +15 one of the sets, the vast majority of feedstock I used to +15 multiple full sets came from assets accumulated over the years of playing. It's also how I +15ed full sets in the previous patch as well. I would also like to point out my own characters weren't even unlucky from 1 to 15.

    By the way, I also don't think these should be priority issues, I don't think feed stock should come from VG Shops.

    its not exaggerating, you get enough feed and alks from the story quest to +12 a guile set easy, you do know you can literally enchant +10-12 with using the base feed and the bound premium alks and get +12 with less feed and way less feed than it took you to get to +9? thats how you have people walking around with sets that took less than 1k feed total or just above it.

    The story quest is for Slaughter, not Guile.
  • sanj66sanj66 ✭✭✭✭
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Apen wrote: »
    Okay, now I see that you literally can't comprehend what you read. Good day sir.
    They aren't going to answer your question because they're exaggerating. Would also like to point out 1,000 T10 feedstock a day isn't really a whole lot either, that's only 15,000 T11, enough to 1->15 a weapon assuming you aren't unlucky, if you are, then you're looking at ~2 months to +15 a single piece without buying feedstock.
    tiama wrote: »
    By the time you have got all the caprin handles and handkerchiefs you should have enough feedstock and alk easily to enchant those gears.
    Interesting, I have made Ambush this patch for 4 of my own characters, and another 3 full sets for 3 other people. Did not earn enough feedstock doing RMHM/IOD during that period to even +15 one of the sets, the vast majority of feedstock I used to +15 multiple full sets came from assets accumulated over the years of playing. It's also how I +15ed full sets in the previous patch as well. I would also like to point out my own characters weren't even unlucky from 1 to 15.

    By the way, I also don't think these should be priority issues, I don't think feed stock should come from VG Shops.

    its not exaggerating, you get enough feed and alks from the story quest to +12 a guile set easy, you do know you can literally enchant +10-12 with using the base feed and the bound premium alks and get +12 with less feed and way less feed than it took you to get to +9? thats how you have people walking around with sets that took less than 1k feed total or just above it.

    The story quest is for Slaughter, not Guile.

    i knw but you can convert the feed you get to t10 then min feed your gear with the extensive and premium alks you get to +12.
  • tiamatiama ✭✭
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Apen wrote: »
    Okay, now I see that you literally can't comprehend what you read. Good day sir.
    They aren't going to answer your question because they're exaggerating. Would also like to point out 1,000 T10 feedstock a day isn't really a whole lot either, that's only 15,000 T11, enough to 1->15 a weapon assuming you aren't unlucky, if you are, then you're looking at ~2 months to +15 a single piece without buying feedstock.
    tiama wrote: »
    By the time you have got all the caprin handles and handkerchiefs you should have enough feedstock and alk easily to enchant those gears.
    Interesting, I have made Ambush this patch for 4 of my own characters, and another 3 full sets for 3 other people. Did not earn enough feedstock doing RMHM/IOD during that period to even +15 one of the sets, the vast majority of feedstock I used to +15 multiple full sets came from assets accumulated over the years of playing. It's also how I +15ed full sets in the previous patch as well. I would also like to point out my own characters weren't even unlucky from 1 to 15.

    By the way, I also don't think these should be priority issues, I don't think feed stock should come from VG Shops.

    1000 is from a lazy day when I do some iod on a few toons. Why would I exaggerate something so small and petty. 2 months to +15 a weapon is literally a joke though.. and you accuse me of exaggerating. 160 for x3 ilvl 417 bams, 120 for x3 ilvl 410 bams, 60+24 for x2 celestial arena. x14 toons. I would say 'you do the math' but obviously people in this thread are severe potatos and cant do simple things.. This equals 5096 t10 feedstock PER DAY for a few hours of farm.. obviously that is taking to the extreme and is extremely mindlessly boring, I do only USUALLY do around 2-3k. but it is still very simple and there is NOT a feedstock problem and we're NOT exaggerating anything lol. Now considering my average to + guile to 12 is 700-800 feeds.. you can +12 2 chars in full guile in 1 single day, without even using the free bunch of feedstock you get from the quests when you reach 65.. The math is slap bang right here in your face.. get off your butts, get out of HW and go get some feedstock and please stop complaining about the boxes. Thankyou for at least agreeing that it is not a priority issue.
    LesbianVi wrote: »
    tiama wrote: »
    LesbianVi wrote: »
    as I said before, only possible reasons I see for people doesn't want updates like these and saying you want things easy are the people that see this as a threat to their marketing and afking on HW.

    I did not say I did not want them. I said they are NOT at 'Highest PRIORITY' for EME and it isn't something they should start working on or even looking into right now. Learn to actually read what people post before you comment back. ALL the post I ever see you make on these forums is you moaning about something or asking for something more. No wonder you have a materials problem, you spend all your time here complaining and asking for stuff. ie.
    Change boxes they are not good enough
    Heavy lag spikes from Eu.. (I play from EU and rarely spike)
    Free compensation for the forums being down (asking for something for nothing..again)
    3-10 second lag spikes (complaining again... maybe you should get better net. Just a tip)
    Another Forum post about enchantment boon box!
    Etching NEEDS a revamp
    Unbalanced Kumas
    We NEED pants for female characters
    ANOTHER FORUM POST ABOUT ENCHANTMENT BOON BOX!!
    Store and Marketing NEEDS more improvement

    Like, do you even play the game or are just sat on forums 24/7 making "suggestions" of how the game can be "better"
    i.Am.Out

    I have been playing the game each day for 2 to 3 hours, so shut up, tnx. Also if it takes you hours to BS ppl, it takes me couple of minutes. Also what I pointed out in those threads shows I play way more than you, how many Kumas changed happened? Feedstock events, why they happened? and what is the point of reading all my threads and pointing out them here? don't you have a life? You are by far the most idiot user I have encountered in forums.

    We need to block more than 5 people.

    and stay out, tnx.

    'Also what I pointed out in those threads shows I play way more than you'

    We can compare play times if you like but considering I started playing in 2013, have 10 toons in full guile, 3 in imp and 1 in ambush I highly doubt this is the case.
  • ApenApen ✭
    edited January 2017
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Apen wrote: »
    Okay, now I see that you literally can't comprehend what you read. Good day sir.
    They aren't going to answer your question because they're exaggerating. Would also like to point out 1,000 T10 feedstock a day isn't really a whole lot either, that's only 15,000 T11, enough to 1->15 a weapon assuming you aren't unlucky, if you are, then you're looking at ~2 months to +15 a single piece without buying feedstock.
    tiama wrote: »
    By the time you have got all the caprin handles and handkerchiefs you should have enough feedstock and alk easily to enchant those gears.
    Interesting, I have made Ambush this patch for 4 of my own characters, and another 3 full sets for 3 other people. Did not earn enough feedstock doing RMHM/IOD during that period to even +15 one of the sets, the vast majority of feedstock I used to +15 multiple full sets came from assets accumulated over the years of playing. It's also how I +15ed full sets in the previous patch as well. I would also like to point out my own characters weren't even unlucky from 1 to 15.

    By the way, I also don't think these should be priority issues, I don't think feed stock should come from VG Shops.

    its not exaggerating, you get enough feed and alks from the story quest to +12 a guile set easy, you do know you can literally enchant +10-12 with using the base feed and the bound premium alks and get +12 with less feed and way less feed than it took you to get to +9? thats how you have people walking around with sets that took less than 1k feed total or just above it.

    The story quest is for Slaughter, not Guile.

    i knw but you can convert the feed you get to t10 then min feed your gear with the extensive and premium alks you get to +12.

    lol that'd leave you with well under 1k t10 feedstock... Which is in no way enough to +12 a set of Guile.
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2017
    tiama wrote: »
    1000 is from a lazy day when I do some iod on a few toons. Why would I exaggerate something so small and petty. 2 months to +15 a weapon is literally a joke though.. and you accuse me of exaggerating. 160 for x3 ilvl 417 bams, 120 for x3 ilvl 410 bams, 60+24 for x2 celestial arena. x14 toons. I would say 'you do the math' but obviously people in this thread are severe potatos and cant do simple things.. This equals 5096 t10 feedstock PER DAY for a few hours of farm.. obviously that is taking to the extreme and is extremely mindlessly boring, I do only USUALLY do around 2-3k. but it is still very simple and there is NOT a feedstock problem and we're NOT exaggerating anything lol. Now considering my average to + guile to 12 is 700-800 feeds.. you can +12 2 chars in full guile in 1 single day, without even using the free bunch of feedstock you get from the quests when you reach 65.. The math is slap bang right here in your face.. get off your butts, get out of HW and go get some feedstock and please stop complaining about the boxes.
    Awakening is a flat 2,000 t11, and per try is 200. It is considered that 50 is "generous", 50x200=10,000. We'll say 13,000 total. At 500 a day that is 26 days for the weapon alone if you aren't unlucky and go up to 100+. Also, remind me again how everyone has a bunch of level 65 alts? The time you have to play doesn't have anything to do with laziness, if all you do is IOD everyday then you're not actually even playing. This also isn't taking into account other expenses. It seems none of you are aware converting up a tier is a 2:1. I was talking about Ambush, like you were, so I'm unsure as to why you responded talking about Guile. I can get Guile to +12 with 0 feedstock for all it matters.
    tiama wrote: »
    Thankyou for at least agreeing that it is not a priority issue.
    You misunderstand, I think feedstock should have steady gains and not reliant on either playing for multiple years, having 14+ alts, or being here for events that gave a ton of free stuff. I just don't find their particular problems to be a priority and is a poor way of handling it anyways.
    tiama wrote: »

    We can compare play times if you like but considering I started playing in 2013, have 10 toons in full guile, 3 in imp and 1 in ambush I highly doubt this is the case.
    Only 1 in Ambush? Why not more since you get enough to fully enchant sets each week? I'm also not sure why this is a contest anyways. It doesn't make your stance any more valid. I have 2 full Ambush Lancers, had Archer in Ambush, a War in Ambush, Ninja, Sorc, Brawler, and 2 other Lancers in Imperator and another Warrior in Imperator. I fund 14 of my own characters on m main account
    sanj66 wrote: »
    i knw but you can convert the feed you get to t10 then min feed your gear with the extensive and premium alks you get to +12.
    Converting divides by 2. Also talking about Ambush anyways, so you would be diving by 2 from 9 to 10, then by 2 again for 10 to 11.
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