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Bring Back Alliance Mask, Please? Or Similar Mask

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  • CatatonicCatatonic ✭✭✭
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Nootiful wrote: »
    How about keep legacy items as legacy items and not put them on the fed bill store just because a few people who couldn't be bothered to do alliance want them

    how about the majority that didnt really earn it to begin with? like how people fed when they heard alliance was being removed, or some just did basic dailies to get points for ech etc. if you want to talk about who deserve to have a say it should be from people who earned it when it came out and the alliance was actually active and the way it should be. too many people call for it not to be included and yet they are ones, not saying you, who fed, for just did the daily quests and never really took part in alliance. i had all of my masks for years, right after it replaced the vanarch system and i see no problem with it, it doesnt give stats, it doesnt boost anything, its the same as what they did with the noble moon and timber, some of us paid what near $300 for them from the golden box event and then they release it for basically free ingame and you all want to complain about a mask that cost you nothing.

    Okay as someone that earned it when alliance first came out I still disagree with them being added. The biggest issue is that it devalues the effort put into them to get something unique. Sure a lot of people fed for them near the end, but that doesnt negate the effort people put into before that. I was opposed to all the other legacy items added to the federation bill shop (except the nexus death charger because that [filtered] became literally impossible to get even when the content was still around).
  • SprocketDevSprocketDev ✭
    Catatonic wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Nootiful wrote: »
    How about keep legacy items as legacy items and not put them on the fed bill store just because a few people who couldn't be bothered to do alliance want them

    how about the majority that didnt really earn it to begin with? like how people fed when they heard alliance was being removed, or some just did basic dailies to get points for ech etc. if you want to talk about who deserve to have a say it should be from people who earned it when it came out and the alliance was actually active and the way it should be. too many people call for it not to be included and yet they are ones, not saying you, who fed, for just did the daily quests and never really took part in alliance. i had all of my masks for years, right after it replaced the vanarch system and i see no problem with it, it doesnt give stats, it doesnt boost anything, its the same as what they did with the noble moon and timber, some of us paid what near $300 for them from the golden box event and then they release it for basically free ingame and you all want to complain about a mask that cost you nothing.

    Okay as someone that earned it when alliance first came out I still disagree with them being added. The biggest issue is that it devalues the effort put into them to get something unique. Sure a lot of people fed for them near the end, but that doesnt negate the effort people put into before that. I was opposed to all the other legacy items added to the federation bill shop (except the nexus death charger because that [filtered] became literally impossible to get even when the content was still around).

    Thing is, newer players would gladly put in the effort to earn it...if they could, so its a moot argument to be had, and in no way "devalues" a soulbound item anyway. It's laughable to think that something that you can't trade nor sell holds any actual "value" outside of sentiment.
  • aeee98aeee98 ✭✭✭✭
    I will put it this way.

    Alliance masks was given as an achievement for attaining a ranking in the alliance system. As much as it is not free (being able to farm dailies as well as actually knowing how to handle keys + PvP during PvP timings), it is literally a prestige cosmetic for being there, especially the exarch mask.

    I honestly don't think we should bring back the masks, because prestige items are meant to be a prestige for a reason. At the worst scenario, bring back the echelon common ones, because I am very sure getting to echelon to begin with is already effortless patches before it closed, if anyone even dares say echelon needing actual effort, you just need dailies and keys in most servers, some even less than that.

    Bring back however, items that were temporary to begin with. Crusade mount, dark wings "animation", FWC mount, those are the things that aren't in our inventories once crusade ended. Bring back items that didn't hold permanent prestige value at all
  • MirakaelMirakael ✭✭✭
    Yes, I 100% understand. But I played the game when alliance is about to be removed. And I was still leveling up to 65 and exploring the game that time. So I don't know, if only I could bring back time :/
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2017
    SprocketDev wrote: »
    Catatonic wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Nootiful wrote: »
    How about keep legacy items as legacy items and not put them on the fed bill store just because a few people who couldn't be bothered to do alliance want them

    how about the majority that didnt really earn it to begin with? like how people fed when they heard alliance was being removed, or some just did basic dailies to get points for ech etc. if you want to talk about who deserve to have a say it should be from people who earned it when it came out and the alliance was actually active and the way it should be. too many people call for it not to be included and yet they are ones, not saying you, who fed, for just did the daily quests and never really took part in alliance. i had all of my masks for years, right after it replaced the vanarch system and i see no problem with it, it doesnt give stats, it doesnt boost anything, its the same as what they did with the noble moon and timber, some of us paid what near $300 for them from the golden box event and then they release it for basically free ingame and you all want to complain about a mask that cost you nothing.

    Okay as someone that earned it when alliance first came out I still disagree with them being added. The biggest issue is that it devalues the effort put into them to get something unique. Sure a lot of people fed for them near the end, but that doesnt negate the effort people put into before that. I was opposed to all the other legacy items added to the federation bill shop (except the nexus death charger because that [filtered] became literally impossible to get even when the content was still around).

    Thing is, newer players would gladly put in the effort to earn it...if they could, so its a moot argument to be had, and in no way "devalues" a soulbound item anyway. It's laughable to think that something that you can't trade nor sell holds any actual "value" outside of sentiment.

    There is a reason for it be called "Legacy".

    It won't matter if new players want it or not, Legacy items should be only for those who were in the right time and did the required things to earn them.

    Legacy items somehow let some ppl feel special, not that I have any of those Legacy items (i think) but it would be impolite to those players who did the effort to earn them and then just now being allow to obtain without the same effort it required before to get them.
  • ZoknahalZoknahal ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2017
    Catatonic wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Nootiful wrote: »
    How about keep legacy items as legacy items and not put them on the fed bill store just because a few people who couldn't be bothered to do alliance want them

    how about the majority that didnt really earn it to begin with? like how people fed when they heard alliance was being removed, or some just did basic dailies to get points for ech etc. if you want to talk about who deserve to have a say it should be from people who earned it when it came out and the alliance was actually active and the way it should be. too many people call for it not to be included and yet they are ones, not saying you, who fed, for just did the daily quests and never really took part in alliance. i had all of my masks for years, right after it replaced the vanarch system and i see no problem with it, it doesnt give stats, it doesnt boost anything, its the same as what they did with the noble moon and timber, some of us paid what near $300 for them from the golden box event and then they release it for basically free ingame and you all want to complain about a mask that cost you nothing.

    Okay as someone that earned it when alliance first came out I still disagree with them being added. The biggest issue is that it devalues the effort put into them to get something unique. Sure a lot of people fed for them near the end, but that doesnt negate the effort people put into before that. I was opposed to all the other legacy items added to the federation bill shop (except the nexus death charger because that [filtered] became literally impossible to get even when the content was still around).

    I agree with this point. Check what happened when they added some of the Achievement pets to the shop, with the ability to loot. The exact same pet you earned through an achievement which you put effort into, now available for everyone who did not completed the achievement, in an even better version that could loot items.

    While i myself would like the Exarch Mask, i think it is gonna receive the same treatment the Ghost Knight Helmet got. People screamed for it for months and when the update happened for the federation bill shop, we were greeted with stuff we never ever suggested to EME to add, even tho they asked themselves to us to suggest which items we would want in the Federation Bill shop.

    Speaking of that, since that was some time ago when the old team of EME was still present, this is a message to @Spacecats : Mind if i suggest you to remake a thread suggesting the forum community which items we would like to see in the Federation Bill Shop, which changes we would like to see made for that shop, and lets add to that the Fashion Coupon Shop too. Community insight on in game shops is always good.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Margarethe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    SprocketDev wrote: »
    Catatonic wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Nootiful wrote: »
    How about keep legacy items as legacy items and not put them on the fed bill store just because a few people who couldn't be bothered to do alliance want them

    how about the majority that didnt really earn it to begin with? like how people fed when they heard alliance was being removed, or some just did basic dailies to get points for ech etc. if you want to talk about who deserve to have a say it should be from people who earned it when it came out and the alliance was actually active and the way it should be. too many people call for it not to be included and yet they are ones, not saying you, who fed, for just did the daily quests and never really took part in alliance. i had all of my masks for years, right after it replaced the vanarch system and i see no problem with it, it doesnt give stats, it doesnt boost anything, its the same as what they did with the noble moon and timber, some of us paid what near $300 for them from the golden box event and then they release it for basically free ingame and you all want to complain about a mask that cost you nothing.

    Okay as someone that earned it when alliance first came out I still disagree with them being added. The biggest issue is that it devalues the effort put into them to get something unique. Sure a lot of people fed for them near the end, but that doesnt negate the effort people put into before that. I was opposed to all the other legacy items added to the federation bill shop (except the nexus death charger because that [filtered] became literally impossible to get even when the content was still around).

    Thing is, newer players would gladly put in the effort to earn it...if they could, so its a moot argument to be had, and in no way "devalues" a soulbound item anyway. It's laughable to think that something that you can't trade nor sell holds any actual "value" outside of sentiment.

    There is a reason for it be called "Legacy".

    It won't matter if new players want it or not, Legacy items should be only for those who were in the right time and did the required things to earn them.

    Legacy items somehow let some ppl feel special, not that I have any of those Legacy items (i think) but it would be impolite to those players who did the effort to earn them and then just now being allow to obtain without the same effort it required before to get them.

    World Bosses?

    Edit:
    Also, for the last part, simply means you didn't do any of those.
    Or simply give it no value.

    Or I wasn't around in the time those where avaliable.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Margarethe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Margarethe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    SprocketDev wrote: »
    Catatonic wrote: »
    sanj66 wrote: »
    Nootiful wrote: »
    How about keep legacy items as legacy items and not put them on the fed bill store just because a few people who couldn't be bothered to do alliance want them

    how about the majority that didnt really earn it to begin with? like how people fed when they heard alliance was being removed, or some just did basic dailies to get points for ech etc. if you want to talk about who deserve to have a say it should be from people who earned it when it came out and the alliance was actually active and the way it should be. too many people call for it not to be included and yet they are ones, not saying you, who fed, for just did the daily quests and never really took part in alliance. i had all of my masks for years, right after it replaced the vanarch system and i see no problem with it, it doesnt give stats, it doesnt boost anything, its the same as what they did with the noble moon and timber, some of us paid what near $300 for them from the golden box event and then they release it for basically free ingame and you all want to complain about a mask that cost you nothing.

    Okay as someone that earned it when alliance first came out I still disagree with them being added. The biggest issue is that it devalues the effort put into them to get something unique. Sure a lot of people fed for them near the end, but that doesnt negate the effort people put into before that. I was opposed to all the other legacy items added to the federation bill shop (except the nexus death charger because that [filtered] became literally impossible to get even when the content was still around).

    Thing is, newer players would gladly put in the effort to earn it...if they could, so its a moot argument to be had, and in no way "devalues" a soulbound item anyway. It's laughable to think that something that you can't trade nor sell holds any actual "value" outside of sentiment.

    There is a reason for it be called "Legacy".

    It won't matter if new players want it or not, Legacy items should be only for those who were in the right time and did the required things to earn them.

    Legacy items somehow let some ppl feel special, not that I have any of those Legacy items (i think) but it would be impolite to those players who did the effort to earn them and then just now being allow to obtain without the same effort it required before to get them.

    World Bosses?

    Edit:
    Also, for the last part, simply means you didn't do any of those.
    Or simply give it no value.

    Or I wasn't around in the time those where avaliable.

    They should have the original value.
    After all, those players were playing before you.

    Not sure what are you talking about or why you quote me in the first place.

    I said "Legacy" should remain "Legacy".

    If my previous post has bad wording, writting, grammar issues then I excuse myself.

    For what I read from you seems you think also "Legacy" should stay that way.

    Am I wrong?
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