warrior vs slayer? new player

Elinerd · February 2017

Pixelator wrote: »

This practically. Don't pick Slayer unless you're dedicated to the thematics and gameplay. It's a class that's consistently at the bottom of the dps rung. See also: Wonderholme era, Timescape to FINM era, Manglemore to now. Not only that, but it's a class that has always offered zero, zip, zilch to party utility. To add insult to injury, it's the class that has the hardest time knocking down and staggering the 2nd boss in RMHM right now - entirely ironic considering that the whole identity of the class was designed around knockdowns. They even has a skill called "Knockdown Strike" ffs.

Slayer was clearly top DPS in Wonderholme. They could break many bowling [filtered] for the buff and were by far the best for Bandersnatch's shield,because of Overpower giving you constant crit. I practically solo'd the shield a few times which was afaik beyond impossible for other classes. Slayer was still way up there for dps years after that too. You must have never grouped with a decent one because even if the class is kicked into the dirt as far as dps standing goes, you could abuse fury strike's damage boost by keeping yourself at low HP. A lot of the fastest clears for all kinds of bosses involved a slayer.

Yamazuki · February 2017

Elinerd wrote: »

Pixelator wrote: »

This practically. Don't pick Slayer unless you're dedicated to the thematics and gameplay. It's a class that's consistently at the bottom of the dps rung. See also: Wonderholme era, Timescape to FINM era, Manglemore to now. Not only that, but it's a class that has always offered zero, zip, zilch to party utility. To add insult to injury, it's the class that has the hardest time knocking down and staggering the 2nd boss in RMHM right now - entirely ironic considering that the whole identity of the class was designed around knockdowns. They even has a skill called "Knockdown Strike" ffs.

Slayer was clearly top DPS in Wonderholme. They could break many bowling [filtered] for the buff and were by far the best for Bandersnatch's shield,because of Overpower giving you constant crit. I practically solo'd the shield a few times which was afaik beyond impossible for other classes. Slayer was still way up there for dps years after that too. You must have never grouped with a decent one because even if the class is kicked into the dirt as far as dps standing goes, you could abuse fury strike's damage boost by keeping yourself at low HP. A lot of the fastest clears for all kinds of bosses involved a slayer.

To add onto Slayer was still good at the start of last year too, it wasn't until after all the other classes were consistently buffed multiple times that they fell behind. This is the same reason why Gunner is down there too. All Slayer got were marginal buffs, since they were at the top with Gunner originally.

Deleted User · February 2017

It seems that everyone just wants to hate on slayer, and that's fine, I am not saying it's great, and of course you can have whatever opinion you wish.

I will just go on my way and let you guys do you, busy bringing the pain anyway. xD

5H96Y49G6D · February 2017

Vanellope wrote: »

I mean slayer is far from as trash as people make it out to be, I can reach a million plus per second, (Imperator weapon) but you have to tryhard it to achieve those numbers while other classes exceed that with ease, but it's not like slayer is absolute garbage like everyone makes it seem.

Also slayer is a little more ping friendly than warrior.

No by definition that makes the class garbage.

That indicates for example if you went tryhard mode on lets say a Ninja or Acher you'd easily exceed 1m or closer to/ above 2m. [filtered] class is [filtered] class and at end of day this is a casual MMO really nothing to prove just a game.

10 toes down only slayers I'm inv are guildies pug can go [filtered] off with that class cuz in truth many slayers have alts and just wasting ppls time for the sake of f-u-n. To hell with that MMORPGS are dominated by metas and not gunna change anytime soon its no coincidence the top RMHM runs replaced Ninjas with now Sorc/Archers. If Lancer went to [filtered] the next day I to would make a cheese Brawler and help support my team instead of sticking to a dead-weight class.

This goes for Zerks-Gunners-Wars

Only b/c for some reason ppl really do not understand how to use those classes especially Zerks.

Pixelator · February 2017

Elinerd wrote: »

Pixelator wrote: »

This practically. Don't pick Slayer unless you're dedicated to the thematics and gameplay. It's a class that's consistently at the bottom of the dps rung. See also: Wonderholme era, Timescape to FINM era, Manglemore to now. Not only that, but it's a class that has always offered zero, zip, zilch to party utility. To add insult to injury, it's the class that has the hardest time knocking down and staggering the 2nd boss in RMHM right now - entirely ironic considering that the whole identity of the class was designed around knockdowns. They even has a skill called "Knockdown Strike" ffs.

Slayer was clearly top DPS in Wonderholme. They could break many bowling [filtered] for the buff and were by far the best for Bandersnatch's shield,because of Overpower giving you constant crit. I practically solo'd the shield a few times which was afaik beyond impossible for other classes. Slayer was still way up there for dps years after that too. You must have never grouped with a decent one because even if the class is kicked into the dirt as far as dps standing goes, you could abuse fury strike's damage boost by keeping yourself at low HP. A lot of the fastest clears for all kinds of bosses involved a slayer.

I'm pretty sure that the WH times were dominated by Berserkers and Sorcs. Slayers were always stronger than usual at shield phases, since that Overpowered glitch practically gives them a free persistent 30-40% damage boost. But shield phases only composes a small fraction of the fight duration. By the time Reaper was released, Slayer was practically unanimously viewed as the worst.
I've been theorycrafting around Fury Strike for years, including setting up for a lite-version in normal runs (Do that and you just [filtered] healers off though). It's been largely overrated you can see that even on a certain site that lets you track dps.
This was the video that brought Fury Strike into the limelight during FoA (the time where Slayers were at their peak for quite a while):

Which promptly gets outshined by post-revamp Warrior+Berserker:

nightmare2x2x · February 2017

did people forget that slayer need to rely on rng to do decent damage...

and for the record, slaying ability is what handicapped slayers from getting any improvements...

PRRM74NEM9 · February 2017

I don't know, I am on TR and I have run with that laser sword slayer a few times and they throw down more damage than most tanks that we have had can handle. I figured they had some crazy gear or something but it's just imp. Maybe Slayer isn't bad, just the players of it are.

Deleted User · February 2017

Slayer will never be near the top in NA Tera like it is in Ktera. Go find videos if you want proof of slayer being near the top on Ktera.

Yamazuki · February 2017

PRRM74NEM9 wrote: »

I don't know, I am on TR and I have run with that laser sword slayer a few times and they throw down more damage than most tanks that we have had can handle. I figured they had some crazy gear or something but it's just imp. Maybe Slayer isn't bad, just the players of it are.

Slayer is on the weak side, but part of it is also the skill level. Considering it's unpopular not many are going to be good with it, some are just playing it to be hipsters and aren't that good with it. Take in the fact that the best slayers deal double the dps that even other "top" Slayers can.

nightmare2x2x · February 2017

PRRM74NEM9 wrote: »

I don't know, I am on TR and I have run with that laser sword slayer a few times and they throw down more damage than most tanks that we have had can handle. I figured they had some crazy gear or something but it's just imp. Maybe Slayer isn't bad, just the players of it are.

you compare yourself with people on the same level as you wearing the same set of gear then you see the difference... any decent player can out-dps scrubs...

vkobe · February 2017

Minazuki wrote: »

I didn't know WH/TS/FI era that slayer was the bottom DPS. I only know is very hard to meet skilled slayer that really know what they need to do.

ok i thought it was berserker or archer bottom dps while wh

i am sure ts and fi time it was archer that suffer the most

Dakuryon wrote: »

SAIXUNO wrote: »

Go slayer, the slayer revamp is inc Soon TM, even tho it's not out on KTERA atm it will be here in 2017, at least then you'll have a slayer with more damage than a revamped war

Ahahahaha. Nice joke! You forgot about no talent system outside of KTERA. Talent system is what make Slayers special in KTERA.

and we dont know if revamp slayer would come before the end of tera

Minazuki · February 2017

I didn't know zerker was the bottom dps while WH either...

vkobe · February 2017

Minazuki wrote: »

I didn't know zerker was the bottom dps while WH either...

mystic, wh best time to see mystic been mad

ILikeTeddyBears · February 2017

Vanellope wrote: »

I mean slayer is far from as trash as people make it out to be, I can reach a million plus per second, (Imperator weapon) but you have to tryhard it to achieve those numbers while other classes exceed that with ease, but it's not like slayer is absolute garbage like everyone makes it seem.

Also slayer is a little more ping friendly than warrior.

You can do like anywhere from 800k to 1m/s with just guile which is what I get and I barely play slayer. You could probably even higher if you know dungeons as a DPS better.

Elinerd · February 2017

Pixelator wrote: »

I'm pretty sure that the WH times were dominated by Berserkers and Sorcs. Slayers were always stronger than usual at shield phases, since that Overpowered glitch practically gives them a free persistent 30-40% damage boost. But shield phases only composes a small fraction of the fight duration. By the time Reaper was released, Slayer was practically unanimously viewed as the worst.
I've been theorycrafting around Fury Strike for years, including setting up for a lite-version in normal runs (Do that and you just [filtered] healers off though). It's been largely overrated you can see that even on a certain site that lets you track dps.
This was the video that brought Fury Strike into the limelight during FoA (the time where Slayers were at their peak for quite a while):
Which promptly gets outshined by post-revamp Warrior+Berserker:

I did 5man WHHMs and yes berserkers were good but sorcs weren't better than Slayer for the reasons I outlined. Even in that cage slayer and berserker were the best, they could solo it. Sorcs were pretty good around that time though but so were all classes.

Very clear that I'm speaking to a troll if you think Slayer was ever viewed as the worst anything though(until maybe recently I don't even know the current standings). And I've been using fury strike since 2man NT and didn't ever stop. That video is nothing new and there's a reason slayers could 2man queen before nocts and other buffs came out.

warrior vs slayer? new player

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