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warrior vs slayer? new player

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  • sanj66sanj66 ✭✭✭✭
    InFRaReD28 wrote: »
    @sanj66 that literally makes no sense. Warrior is the highest dps, therefore the highest dps a warrior is gonna pull is with another warrior dps.

    However I do agree needs buffs, but they are not as bad as you guys claim. If you're not inept at the class, you should pull similar dps to every class minus the big 3.

    i would beg to differ on that warrior dps is really really good but an archer or sorc can out dps it played at eh same level of skill or ping the margin wont be extremely huge like before but a couple hundred ks, like i said there are players out there that do not upload their dps scores and only run meters for their own knowledge of how they perform. i have seen archers pull really close to those values without using the full load out of consumables used or one in particular doesnt even have a dragon mount.
  • PixelatorPixelator ✭✭✭✭
    InFRaReD28 wrote: »
    @sanj66 that literally makes no sense. Warrior is the highest dps, therefore the highest dps a warrior is gonna pull is with another warrior dps.

    However I do agree needs buffs, but they are not as bad as you guys claim. If you're not inept at the class, you should pull similar dps to every class minus the big 3.
    "Not as bad as you claim" - you do realize that your highest score (and I admit, you're by far the best Slayer on NA atm) is less than 2/3rds that of the best Warrior's. You've been playing this class for years and reached its pinnacle, and you're fine with just being on-par or slightly better than some shitter who's had his Archer/Sorcerer/Warrior for a month or two?
  • @InFRaReD28
    Give up. Let them think that they will think. Too many bad Slayers have ruined people's view of the good ones. Arguing with these people is fruitless.
  • I will do a quick review for you : Average of the top 10 in Lachelith and Phase 4 fight respectively:
    - Archer : 3.1M - 460K
    - Berserker : 2.5M - 320K
    - Gunner : 2.1M - 300K
    - Ninja : 2.7M - 320K
    - Reaper : 2.3M - 270K
    - Sorc : 3M - 345K
    - Warrior : 3.2M - 370K
    - Slayer : 2.2M - 240K

    #notasbad

    The class change won't even buff slayer's dps by 10%. So it will stay garbage for the foreseeable future. No Talents doesn't help either.

    Yeah the thing is HH is more representative of class potential because the fight is longer. Lol at it as much as you want, it doesn't make you look better.
  • SaabiSaabi ✭✭✭
    @Pixelator I'm not okay with it, but Slayer isn't the only class that's bad in comparison to warrior. Also keep in mind, that warrior parse is Hella inflated due to that comp. If I replaced the 3.2 warrior, Im confident I would have pulled 2.8 or so. Hell, I don't even known howmuch I could hit because I don't play with lancers who can pull brawler dps.

    Sure I may be #1 atm, but I don't think I've reached the limit of slayer. I did a run with a brawler party yesterday and I was maintaining 2.5m.. I just choked and ate the floor. Anyways.. that 2.4 that I hit is just the beginning, def not the max for the class
  • SaabiSaabi ✭✭✭
    @VirtualON um no.. the next patchs' buff to slayer is way more than a 10% dps increase. Quote me, I will have a well over 3m/s video out for atleast 1st and last boss RMHM after that patch; Slayer PoV.

    Also, lol parse runs in HH is stupid. HH favors ranged why are you so insistent on bringing it up.

    Sidenote: "30man Hella easy"
  • PixelatorPixelator ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2017
    Vanellope wrote: »
    @InFRaReD28
    Give up. Let them think that they will think. Too many bad Slayers have ruined people's view of the good ones. Arguing with these people is fruitless.
    I would try to at least do much more than 1mil/s before having the gall to call others "bad".
  • You guys are talking as if you're all the top tier players in Tera who actually cares about min-maxing when pugging. Aside from InFRaReD28 none of you even has any proof of being qualified to talk about this. Get in game and do a high score run with him, if you can easily beat his dps then we can keep going. Acting all high and mighty as if you're at the top of the food chain while pulling other's static, I don't even know what to say.

    As far as I've experienced, rarely when lfg there's someone who can do more than 2mps regardless of class, it's only possible with specific parties doing high score runs. For common runs, as long as it's smooth nobody cares, play whatever classes you enjoy the most.
  • SaabiSaabi ✭✭✭
    Ok I think I strayed from my initial intentions with my post. So

    1. Yes Slayer is weak, it needs buffs; not disputing this.

    2. Although it is "weak", it can still pull nice DPS. If you want to epeen and do the highest dps ever, then yeah Slayer is a trash irrelevant class and you should not play it.

    However....

    3. If you genuinely enjoy the class, you will not be disappointed if you put in the time; Slayer is extremely fun when played at a high level ; ICB is so dope.You don't need to do 3m/s, "even though you can after changes". Parties rarely see that kind of DPS.
    I just want to see more people playing what they enjoy and playing it to a high level, it builds a stronger player base.


    But yeah, buff my class lol.
  • In support of @InFRaReD28 ,

    To be able to deal over 2M as a slayer is not hopeless but in my view it should rather earn respect from people. It's sad really that the negativity from people in this thread and/or in the game, always finding something to complain about.

    I know slayer class has been long due for a revamp or changes but that doesn't mean that they are a bad class to play. It's like anyone can play any class that they enjoy and get really good at it through dedication. But you know what, some people are just clueless in this game and yes I agree with you, people don't learn their class well and cry a lot. I even noticed myself as well that top players don't talk a lot on forums either and there are really good reasons why. It's just not worth it.

    To add a bit: Most people don't see god tier slayers or other god tier people who play different classes (lancers, zerks, etc) as much because well they have their own statics or special groups, am I right? So yeah there are a lot of other players out there who may give bad impression that slayers are low tier dps in pugs/ims but that still doesn't mean that slayers are bad. A god tier warrior for example, of course will do a lot more than a god tier slayer assuming they are still at the same skill level but overall to see a god tier slayer compete like that is a rarity. Not many people (archer, warrior, sorc) can average over 2m+ at lach in rmhm anyway, because of their skill level. Everyone has different skill levels and caps at a certain point. AT this point it's all about dedication and how much are they doing to push themselves to the limit. I'd rather take someone who knows their class well vs someone who bandwagons a class with p2w gear thinking they're all that and get greedy over their dps meter.

    All I want to say is keep up what you do, you have my respect.
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2017
    xxsaber wrote: »
    Xplato wrote: »
    NOT EVEN CLOSE.

    Slayer is garbage Tier. it's the worst class without any compeition for that title. and until it get's massive Buffs to MS, and most of it's skills(at least +40% damage for every skill) it will always be trash tier, slayer should have Damage on par with lunar dancer, archer. it does not. so until it get's it's rework it needs to be at that tier, you shouldn't play it.

    play lunar dancer once it's out, it's how slayers are supposed to perform. slayers will not be played after it's out, since lunar dancer is better than it in every way.

    What is lunar dancer? When is that coming out?

    pole dancer with very hawt pole weapon to do sexy dance agasint monsters, she will come in the next blue moon :3
    InFRaReD28 wrote: »
    @VirtualON Dude you are a true memester if you really think the big 3 can EASILY pull 3mill dps. Please. The highest parsing sorc can't even EASILY pull 3mill dps. Stop making things up. All classes sit naturally in between 2-3mill . Only with stacked parties can 3mill be broken and that's assuming the player using that class is using it at the highest level, which pretty much means it won't apply to any of you here lmao.

    Also. Lol Harrowhold...

    it is also true than not everyone can easily 2 millions with slayer
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    InFRaReD28 wrote: »
    Ok I think I strayed from my initial intentions with my post. So

    1. Yes Slayer is weak, it needs buffs; not disputing this.

    2. Although it is "weak", it can still pull nice DPS. If you want to epeen and do the highest dps ever, then yeah Slayer is a trash irrelevant class and you should not play it.

    However....

    3. If you genuinely enjoy the class, you will not be disappointed if you put in the time; Slayer is extremely fun when played at a high level ; ICB is so dope.You don't need to do 3m/s, "even though you can after changes". Parties rarely see that kind of DPS.
    I just want to see more people playing what they enjoy and playing it to a high level, it builds a stronger player base.


    But yeah, buff my class lol.

    May I ask you in-game for some things that I don't get with my Slayer such as HT won't hit even in point blank.

    I like the class, I'm not an skilled player but I think some things just seems weird for many ppl has told me about my "luck" on resets and strikes.
  • SaabiSaabi ✭✭✭
    @ElinUsagi
    Yeah, I play on MT hit me up anytime there. As far as HT desyncing, its race dependent. Happens the most on elin for me so I never play elin, aside from their silly animations lmfao.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2017
    InFRaReD28 wrote: »
    @ElinUsagi
    Yeah, I play on MT hit me up anytime there. As far as HT desyncing, its race dependent. Happens the most on elin for me so I never play elin, aside from their silly animations lmfao.

    First time someone tell me that, sucks to be race dependent. -.-

    Edit: I will stick playin Slayer on Elin thought. Is the toon I like most and spend more time playing.
  • It's rather rare to see HT miss point blank in PvE though. You can desync to the front and get hit, but you would still hit the bosses most of the time because of their huge hit box.
    Try lowering your camera so that the cursor doesn't point straight into the ground.
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