There is actual Owpvp on this game still.

xoBarb · February 2017

Yes its pretty clear Zings word would hold more weight on a topic that you have clear bias on due to you being a PRESENT member of said alliance. Hes looking for pvp not politics can't say the same for you.

We only started to work with TS after a cluster of 5 (now 7) towers appeared in a corner of the CU map. That google doc is the same copy paste from months ago when Divine was working with TS just they swapped the names. You people are a joke and whats wrong with pvp if you actually think you're helping TERA pvp by trying to monotonize the only PVP content this game has with /rolling for rank1 instead of letting the better guild strive.

Did you guys try to do the same on HW with crusades? all the guilds would /roll for top10 crusade spots for rewards?

6F6JJH7TD7 · February 2017

NotHereSenpai wrote: »

xoBarb wrote: »

Its your word vs Zings; The word of someone who's been loosely lying and exaggerating this entire thread vs the GM of a guild who was in your alliance and left after too many pointless rules and restrictions were trying to be forced on him and his guild-members

So because Zing is the former GM of a guild that was formerly in the alliance, his word is worth more than one of the GMs in the alliance? I'm the GM of Discord, characters are Tangent, Not.Here.Senpai, and Reread, as well as a few others that aren't relevant. My entire goal here was to stop the misinformation, and I haven't been loosely lying or exaggerating at all, everything I've stated has been the truth as I know it. We also saw a document from Tainted Souls outlining your alliance pretty much the day ours was formed, here is the Google Docs link https://docs.google.com/document/d/19QD_thgLsos77Nn7qq_ChdYR2bqT25x6-GcaiDv4q2M/edit . I have a backup of this saved as well, in case the original author goes back to delete it.

The merge has nothing to do with the alliance, it was the threat of 2 guilds monopolizing CU every week that sparked it. Our alliance had plans to /roll for the winner each week, and each winner would be excluded from being able to win until every guild in the alliance had won. I've probably said too much already, and other leads may be unhappy, but I just want to make sure the record is set straight.

Damn son, this alliance seems pretty much like a monopoly. Instead of 2 guilds owning CU it's ONE alliance that owns it. You must be pretty stupid to believe this is actually how you handle a strong guild, I can also probably guess exactly what will happen ["{(IF)}"] Honor ever gets rank one and feel confident enough. All the other guilds in the alliance are gonna get thrown into the curb and Honor will run it solo, cause honestly whose going to split the winning that many times. Good luck with that plan there buddy.

Also honestly Ping's word carries more weight than yours since he managed to hold a guild up that stood against top guilds and (relatively) held their ground. And if someone like that can look at an alliance and say that's BS then guess what buddy your alliance is pretty BS

Blurberry · February 2017

6F6JJH7TD7 wrote: »

NotHereSenpai wrote: »

xoBarb wrote: »

Its your word vs Zings; The word of someone who's been loosely lying and exaggerating this entire thread vs the GM of a guild who was in your alliance and left after too many pointless rules and restrictions were trying to be forced on him and his guild-members

So because Zing is the former GM of a guild that was formerly in the alliance, his word is worth more than one of the GMs in the alliance? I'm the GM of Discord, characters are Tangent, Not.Here.Senpai, and Reread, as well as a few others that aren't relevant. My entire goal here was to stop the misinformation, and I haven't been loosely lying or exaggerating at all, everything I've stated has been the truth as I know it. We also saw a document from Tainted Souls outlining your alliance pretty much the day ours was formed, here is the Google Docs link https://docs.google.com/document/d/19QD_thgLsos77Nn7qq_ChdYR2bqT25x6-GcaiDv4q2M/edit . I have a backup of this saved as well, in case the original author goes back to delete it.

The merge has nothing to do with the alliance, it was the threat of 2 guilds monopolizing CU every week that sparked it. Our alliance had plans to /roll for the winner each week, and each winner would be excluded from being able to win until every guild in the alliance had won. I've probably said too much already, and other leads may be unhappy, but I just want to make sure the record is set straight.

[filtered] son, this alliance seems pretty much like a monopoly. Instead of 2 guilds owning CU it's ONE alliance that owns it. You must be pretty stupid to believe this is actually how you handle a strong guild, I can also probably guess exactly what will happen ["{(IF)}"] Honor ever gets rank one and feel confident enough. All the other guilds in the alliance are gonna get thrown into the curb and Honor will run it solo, cause honestly whose going to split the winning that many times. Good luck with that plan there buddy.

Also honestly Ping's word carries more weight than yours since he managed to hold a guild up that stood against top guilds and (relatively) held their ground. And if someone like that can look at an alliance and say that's BS then guess what buddy your alliance is pretty BS

As much as I am not on good terms with "Ping", his word does mean more. He knows what it's like to be against the top guilds, and to be the top guild. Hence why he left your alliance due to terms and tactics being that of a mass recruiting leveling guild...oh wait.

NotHereSenpai · February 2017

Full disclosure, the only reason Discord is even in the alliance to begin with was to participate in the massive scale of PvP coming out of it. We don't particularly want to win, and only have people helping lead the raids to help keep things exciting... and there aren't exactly an abundance of competent leaders for that scale of combat. I've tried to speak with the least level of bias possible, but I'm going to opt out of the conversation now since its no longer constructive. I understand Desync's perspective, just like I understand Honor, Turn Up, Tainted Souls, etc. Everyone is in it for their own reason, and in my opinion if only 1 alliance is alive, then CU dies just like it did on MT. In the end, nothing can be gained from this discussion except flame and [filtered] talk, so let the 3 alliances continue to duke it out until one gives in and/or breaks.

xoBarb · February 2017

NotHereSenpai wrote: »

Full disclosure, the only reason Discord is even in the alliance to begin with was to participate in the massive scale of PvP coming out of it. We don't particularly want to win, and only have people helping lead the raids to help keep things exciting... and there aren't exactly an abundance of competent leaders for that scale of combat. I've tried to speak with the least level of bias possible, but I'm going to opt out of the conversation now since its no longer constructive. I understand Desync's perspective, just like I understand Honor, Turn Up, Tainted Souls, etc. Everyone is in it for their own reason, and in my opinion if only 1 alliance is alive, then CU dies just like it did on MT. In the end, nothing can be gained from this discussion except flame and [filtered] talk, so let the 3 alliances continue to duke it out until one gives in and/or breaks.

you /roll for this decision?

Pretty bold of you to state a reason for MT pvp dying when your pvp experience consists of /rolling for ranks.

Blurberry · February 2017

collar pull

Automated · February 2017

NotHereSenpai wrote: »

The first 2 weeks of the alliance, TU lost. This is also real life. To prevent this happening again, they found a spot in Velika that allows them to choke off almost every type of access except through one small entrance, allowing their Gunners and Reapers to win with AOE. I also can not stress this enough, there are not 5 raids in the alliance. The PvE raid has had literally no coordination with us the past 2 weeks, they just do whatever until BAMs spawn and we're just as surprised as anyone else is when they begin attacking and destroying towers. Hellspawns/Virtual/Seven Gates are not with us, and we actually had a raid defending our towers almost the entire CU, which goes back to 2 raids attacking TU at a time. 2 raids that aren't even completely full, and has a pretty significant amount of undergeared people in it. Turn Up has become a symbol for smaller guilds to fight against, they do whatever they want pretty much whenever they want, to the point where no single guild can fight back. The week before the Alliance formed, TU made an alliance with TS as well. This makes over a raid to defend a point thats nearly impossible to take, while another raid can attack towers, and since TS has so many people, they can attack towers rather well while TU defends. Sure, there may be an alliance against TU, but TU is also in an alliance, and in the end neither of them would be healthy for the server if they win. Either be in TU or TS and die any time you go to VO, or be in one of the 7ish alliance guilds or never win CU.

All the talk about you having a lot of people not participating is also true for us, you've already said you have 3 raids. We've heard 3-5, but either way. Then there's the pve raid (granted it's led by ez.fight which is a handicap that we can acknowledge) and Hellspawns. Even if you do not work with them, they're still only hitting us. Frankly, it doesn't matter if they coordinate with you or not, the fact is that their idea of "doing whatever until bams spawn" is attacking us which means we have to defend against them. For the record, we usually have one full raid or just below and almost always someone who has to leave early, dies who can't respawn nearby or for other reasons is not by our tower leaving us with about 25 people at any given time. Among these 25 people are also plenty of pieces of guile and even the occasional piece of slaughter. TS usually has 20-25 people in their raids and we never keep both raids defending our choke because of friendly fire. So again, the 3-5 raids attacking us have constantly been beaten by about 25 people in our raid. There have been several occasions where people have slipped through and summoned a raid behind us at the same time as another raid has attacked from the front and we still beat you to a pulp every time. You make of it whatever you will with numbers, gear and whatever.

I take the note on our tower placement as a compliment. We have no problem admitting we're smarter than you too! :pleased:

Kosami · February 2017

Holy [filtered] and this is why i moved to FF

Server is lit all these trashtalks alive and pvp is dope. Not as skilled as mt pvp but its getting there maybe it will just be as good as mt pretty soon

I suggest more ppl to move to fey actually server is active haha
- helden/remy

GearsSick · February 2017

I talked to a friend about this and he said there is actually pvp... but the raid fights are basically like 20 people 1v1ing which sounds aids. I think this can go well with practice and like coordination dunno. I'm just coming back to the game too, I know alot of people that would actually come back to the game if there were gvgs and raids that are fun.

Regoren · February 2017

This thread started neutral and is turning into a damn embarrassment of the pvp community of Gey Forrest.

First of, to the point, OWPVP (VO + CU) is more lively right now. This is a good thing, we want MORE people pvping, not less.

Secondly, let me knock Turnips down from their imaginary high horse and point out some simple facts.
- Having 5 raids of 30, 20, 10, 7, 8 people is not the same as having 5 raids of 30
- Picking a narrow chokehold renders numbers useless. Haven't you watched 300? (put your tower in the open, then you can say you legit beat 5 unfilled raids)
- Both sides have Guile players in their raids, that doesn't make you special, just less useful.
- Weighing/comparing peoples word/credibility in a video game is meaningless

Thirdly, it seems that we are moving into an era of LoT vs everyone else. However, as long as things stay competitive this can also be beneficial. The problem is when people bandwagon to one side and then pvp dies. Unfortunately, pvpers are notorious for such migrations, as well as crying that there is no pvp in the game AFTER they were the cause.

Forth, the agreements of the both alliances (im excluding Hellspawn alliance for a reason) are quite clear - roll for rank 1 on a rotational basis vs TU takes rank 1, TS takes the BAMS. The fun part here is that neither side is getting what they want/agreed to.

And don't you dare use your troll tactic of changing the subject Barb. You do not want to bring me into this arguement, not after you unofficially lost both GvGs.

xoBarb · February 2017

You weren't even in CU, Zing was; There were 5 FULL(semi full 25+) badly unorganized raids working together, this is a fact.

There was a google doc linked of how TS and TU are working together and you didn't even bother to read it. TS doesn't get the bams and we get first we split with eachother so each guild/member that shows up for CU profits for their time spent there. Lastly, we've been consistently getting bams each week and the Laurel, INFACT the only thing our side isn't getting that we wanted was quality pvp.

You've had an unhealthy obsession with name dropping me whenever you can..... should talk to someone.

xoBarb · February 2017

You haven't even participated in CU for the past few weeks; Zing has. Its not up for discussion there WAS 5 raids that were either full or nearly full (25+) confirmed by someone who was apart of the unorganized, poorly led 5 raid alliance.

You're clearly uninformed and it shows, A google doc was linked about how we work out CU with TS. They DO NOT get the bams and we get first, We split the loot so each member of both guilds gets paid for their time spent in CU. The google doc is old and for the most part hasn't been updated since Divine days minus the loot part on the bottom of the page. TS isn't there to get us first we're there to work together and if our tower goes down first we'll help and contribute to hopefully TS getting first and vice versa.

As for the, "neither side is getting what they want/agreed to." We have been getting bams consistently each week on-top of getting the Laurel. The only thing our side is missing from getting what we want is quality pvp. I can only assume the other side is struggling intensely with getting what they want with the amount of transfers I'm seeing come and go from MT after being apart of their guild for more then a few days.

You've had an un-healthy obsession with me since HW you even went as far to chase me down on MT and plead with my gms/officers to kick me from the guilds I was apart of even though It never worked I still gotta give you credit for how petty you are.

If you want to try to get me kicked out of a guild again you can contact our new GM "Xx.Cya.Hick"

fun times, shame your guild died

Regoren · February 2017

Wants quality pvp, hides tower in a narrow choke hold. Turnip logic 101. The stupidity of Blur's minions is beyond me...

Funny guy though. Who is the one to be poorly informed? I haven't been on MT since VM2. You just talking out of your [filtered] like always.

Cute picture of the one Hostile gvg where a bunch of people fed. Tell me, how many crusades did Hostile win? One. And Primal? More than six. Let me break it down for you, we had the individual skill, you had the numbers. We starved your sad guild of pvp and Hostile died. Then what happened to your guild prior to TU? Oh right, it also died. Interesting pattern.

Here is another pattern - everywhere you go, you trash talk in Say, Area, Global chat, and forums. What sort of person cries for that much attention?

But go on, I am sure you have some new story to make up, or some wise [filtered] remark. As always, just another troll.

Blurberry · February 2017

Regoren wrote: »

Wants quality pvp, hides tower in a narrow choke hold. Turnip logic 101. The stupidity of Blur's minions is beyond me...

Funny guy though. Who is the one to be poorly informed? I haven't been on MT since VM2. You just talking out of your [filtered] like always.

Cute picture of the one Hostile gvg where a bunch of people fed. Tell me, how many crusades did Hostile win? One. And Primal? More than six. Let me break it down for you, we had the individual skill, you had the numbers. We starved your sad guild of pvp and Hostile died. Then what happened to your guild prior to TU? Oh right, it also died. Interesting pattern.

Here is another pattern - everywhere you go, you trash talk in Say, Area, Global chat, and forums. What sort of person cries for that much attention?

But go on, I am sure you have some new story to make up, or some wise [filtered] remark. As always, just another troll.

You just indicated how you were embarrassed at how this thread has turned into a FF bashing thread, and now you're personally bashing someone? xdXDxDxDDDXXDXDxdxdxddddddddd

xoBarb · February 2017

You're going to try to flame our 1 raid for using a choke vs 5 raids? I know your pvp experience only consists of feeding in crusades and killing afk people but this is simply tragic

When I was in Inspire on MT, Are you not the GM of Primal?

I didn't post the cellphone ## I was already on MT at the time. It was Brice and Taiiga I was just the fall guy since I had the notoriety of being the villain of HW and I couldn't have cared less about it

A common occasion to ensure your guild getting rank 1 in those 6 times you wanted to point out

Must of made these up I guess. Majority if not all of the Hostile core still plays though and are apart of TU or still in Manifest on MT since we transferred....... hows the primal core looking? :silenced:

There is actual Owpvp on this game still.

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