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Advice for ninja's

If you are in a party with a tank. Meaning Warrior, or Brawler, or Lancer. Attack on the sides and stay out of their way. You block them with your skills going back and forth. Big Salt for ya.
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  • KarmaTheAlligatorKarmaTheAlligator ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2017
    Why would a ninja be anywhere but the back, unless the boss decides to chase the ninja? The only time a ninja should be in front of the boss is if it's something like the first boss of SS who can target anyone.

    Edited for clarity
  • Maybe we wouldn't have to if you all tank properly and actually hold aggro more then 30s so we DON'T have to jump back and forth, i see so many dps tanking rather then the tanks lately.
  • @KarmaTheAlligator

    I hold aggro just fine as a lancer, it's the party ninja's that have this habit to jump around all the time never sit stil llong enough to use their other skills and get in my path. Besides, Why the heck would a lancer be in the back..? Lancers belong in the face of the boss not on his butt, Hello? That's why they have a shield?!. I might as well take all my aggro skills off, as well as my glyphs to assist in holding aggro if you think an lancer is designed to be attacking behind the boss. A real lancer gets in the face of the boss, doesn't pat his bum thank you. I'd be happy if ninja's attacked side to side and still did their thing as long as they stayed out of my path. Just stay out of the front of the boss.
  • @KarmaTheAlligator

    I hold aggro just fine as a lancer, it's the party ninja's that have this habit to jump around all the time never sit stil llong enough to use their other skills and get in my path. Besides, Why the heck would a lancer be in the back..? Lancers belong in the face of the boss not on his [filtered], Hello? That's why they have a shield?!. I might as well take all my aggro skills off, as well as my glyphs to assist in holding aggro if you think an lancer is designed to be attacking behind the boss. A real lancer gets in the face of the boss, doesn't pat his [filtered] thank you. I'd be happy if ninja's attacked side to side and still did their thing as long as they stayed out of my path. Just stay out of the front of the boss.

    I'm talking about the ninjas, not you specifically. Sorry, guess I wasn't clear enough. Ninjas should never be in the front in the first place.
  • @KarmaTheAlligator
    Ok. No problem.
  • CandyMomokoCandyMomoko ✭✭✭
    edited February 2017
    XR6GREJ4WD wrote: »
    Stop doing IMS man. Unless this is part of a glitch to you.

    Sadly I'm going to have to agree with this salty comment.
    It seems you should stop imsing if everything everyone does bothers you enough to make a post about it. This is not even useful advice for anyone. It doesn't even describe a "problem" in detail or look for advice. It contributes to nothing :/!

    :-1: for you sir :c!
  • Oh it does contribute most assuredly. Ninja's do not belong in the face of bosses in dungeons. Unless they wish to keep dying in front of them ofcourse, or blocking their tank. I agree with Karma on that point. As far as imsing.. haha well. I'll have to consider that.
  • Decoy jutsu will always take ninja to the boss behind.
    There is no front or side attack.
    What is lancer's skill to get to the boss front?

    Rubberbanding and phasing through the boss is a thing in this game.
    U should be a little bit more tolerant especially on things that no one can control.
  • Decoy jutsu will always take ninja to the boss behind.
    There is no front or side attack.
    What is lancer's skill to get to the boss front?

    Rubberbanding and phasing through the boss is a thing in this game.
    U should be a little bit more tolerant especially on things that no one can control.

    Ummm what? You have totally lost me or misunderstand the topic entirely. Not trying to be rude. I'm just not following what you are trying to actually say. I said nothing about Decoy, I know what it does. You can use that skill on the sides too and you will still show up behind the boss. no big deal.

    So let me be more clear. If I am generally always having the boss face ME (Agro) With the exception of the one player that is too far away to be targeted now. When I generally am facing the boss front and boss if facing me..

    Why in the heck would a ninja feel it necessary to face tank? Why? it's called playing intelligently. The Answer is very simple stay out of the way of the Lancer or other tank classes. There are plenty of side and rear attacks that ninja's can do.
    At most some just feel this need to be hopping around.

    Do you have any idea how difficult it is to heal ninja's with a priest. Heck mystics are generally better at this thanks to motes. That's if the player is smart enough to pick them up.

    The point is, there is absolutely no excuse and no reason for a ninja to get between me and the boss. yes if the boss happens to suddenly turn around because of perhaps the ninja being too far away, iframes closer and uses Decoy it's going to happen. Be the fact is there are plenty of skills aninja can use with out having to get between the tank all the time.
  • NobupakNobupak ✭✭✭
    edited February 2017
    I had to re-read this multiple times just to understand what's going on here, and hopefully I could clarify it for everyone. To remind you, not everyone is perfect, and no one needs to be perfect to be a part of the forum. Everyone has rights to opinions, but it isn't okay to push certain opinions about personal details of a player to underline who they are as a player. Please try to keep personal opinions to yourself, and not to spread personal information about players, this is against the forum rules and En Masse's ToS for TERA.

    To start off, the original poster was making a brief suggestion for players who play as a ninja to make sure they are fighting behind the boss. This is probably because both in dungeons and in the open-world environment, you can collide with other players which could block attacks or targeting. Now due to certain bosses being weirdly placed and their size, including the boss from DFNM/DFHM, some times certain skills can push players inside the boss, then out the closest end. This is called rubber banding and phasing, this is something that's been in many MMORPGs, and it's something we have to deal with everyday playing one.

    Some times new comers wouldn't know where to be when fighting a boss or bam because during leveling, it doesn't really explain where certain DPS would be, and because of how easy it is to take out a monster, people can hold onto the idea that where to land DPS wouldn't matter, because it would be destroyed in the end. All we can do is give our time to teach these players proper mechanics of their class and the dungeon and hope they are successful after building experience. Communication is the key in a MMORPG, hence why it's multiplayer and comes with a chat with different channels.

    To conclude my statement, I can offer the original poster here to give more detail on how ninja can fight properly in dungeons, by offering guides you can make or by other players, or even mentioning the Player Guide section of this forum. But overall, it's best to just communicate before starting a boss, as every word matters when teaching new players about how to play TERA. Again, I do agree that were has been some misunderstanding between players in this discussion, but that doesn't mean it's okay for certain players abuse them and vice versa.

    Let's cooperate as a community to make this MMORPG a better place, and try to offer clean information on what's related to this discussion, and not other players. Thank you.
  • 66ECX7NAN766ECX7NAN7 ✭✭✭✭
    A ninja can only move in between you and the boss if there was a gap between you in the boss. And unless you needed to dodge something, there shouldn't be a gap.
  • IMS is for the strong willed people only. You must assume your tank is bad, your dps is bad, your healer is bad, and you have to carry B)
  • 66ECX7NAN766ECX7NAN7 ✭✭✭✭
    Solo queue on the weekend is the ultimate test of patience.
  • Against my better judgment, I am making a ninja. And I am going to take NPCPak's advice as far as giving advice in the future. With Video's and screen shots. I'll make that a project.
    IMS is for the strong willed people only. You must assume your tank is bad, your dps is bad, your healer is bad, and you have to carry B)
    That's a pretty biased opinion there.
    Just because someone uses IMS does not mean they are strong willed or not. I"m sure there are reasons as to why someone would prefer to do an IMS versus other options available to them. And that doesn't mean they are a bad player either.
  • @RimbaldiOfTera biased or not, it still holds true. I've had dps doing 100k/s in ssnm and i had dps that killed the boss in record time. I'm not saying everyone is bad, just don't expect everyone to know what they're doing and then post threads on forums when it happens.
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