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Paragon -> Valkyrie Wins [Updated]

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  • ElyannElyann ✭✭✭
    Paragon sucks.
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    Elyann wrote: »
    Paragon sucks.

    nah in guild war they were good in the hall of heroe, their party buff was OP in pvp ;)
  • SpacecatsSpacecats admin
    edited March 2017
    Idi0ticGenius wrote: »
    Spacecats wrote: »
    kamalr wrote: »
    'Moonlight Warrior'/'Lunar Dancer' were good names because they at least referenced their moon-based abilities, and what they do in combat.

    Not to shoot down anyone's suggestions, but as far as I've seen none of the class moves have a direct reference to a moon in their appearance.

    I'm sorry, but I am 100% sure that this class has several references to the moon. Let's start with the Official Developer's Note about this new class. Please read the translated version of official BHS developer's note:

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vHWmTaTjWIH054_u81Mw5gLxJRhQlgI5XHdhWSrOfhc/edit?usp=sharing

    Here, there have been several references to the moon for this class. Even using skills show Moon as well.

    Very first thing you notice is this line
    To emphasize on character skill traits, we’ve chosen the Moon as the concept.
    The moon brought the symbol of sharpness and coldness,
    and we’ve set the powerful final blow Lunar Scar and Blood Moon as the base concept.

    Moon was the very base concept for this class, thus leading to the choice of weapon being Glaive. Without the concept of moon in mind, this class would never have been created.
    In order to find the right weapon and motion, we’ve investigated and thought through carefully from Korean Woldo arts, 24 Martial Arts, Chinese Podao*Guandao arts, Japanese Naginata, etc.
    (We’ve even tried to mimic them with a large umbrella in empty meeting room too...)
    In the end, we decided on Glaives (to be exact with original text: Chinese Guandao) that focuses striking with large blade at the tip and swinging around spinning motion to attack, and a Leather armor to match the dextrous movements.

    Here, Woldo (월도; 月刀) literally means Moon Blade, which we can call it Crescent Blade. Podao (朴刀; Plain Blade) and Guandao(关刀 ; Blade of Guan Yu). Guandao is also called Crescent Moon Blade (偃月刀) and if you've read Romance of Three Kingdoms or seen any works related to it, you will never miss this weapon called Green Dragon Crescent Blade (青龍偃月刀). Notice that we see 月刀 again, which is Crescent Blade portion of the word, and like I said, this literally means Moon Blade. Guandao is famous enough to appear in several works aside from anything related to three kingdoms.

    And if people still don't understand why I called it Lunar Dancer, it's because they literally described it as one
    At last, a Castanic Female who cuts through enemies at melee range while gathering powers from moonlight to infuse on to their glaives, Lunar Dancer was born. Now we’ll go over more details about the traits that Lunar Dancer has.
    [...]
    There are other various attack motions other than wide swings, and her fluid like chain skills as she slices through her enemies,
    is almost as if she is dancing under the moonlight.

    A melee class that slices through enemies swiftly and elegantly with her weapon infused with the power of moonlight, almost as if she is dancing under moonlight.

    Again, BHS emphasizes their main concept of Moon.

    My translations are mostly rewritten word-for-word without much of modification to keep their original meanings. So "Lunar Dancer" is not simply a fan-made, but the combination of both concept and design that the developer had in mind. I respected the ideas and concepts so I tried to keep them at best of my abilities to translate.

    Also, majority of their skill names are based on Moon. I'll even specify what Chinese derived words they used for their names in parentheses, so see how many Moon (月) you find:

    I am giving you three different naming for them:
    1. Direct Translation
    2. Names for the skill icon in English given by BHS
    3. What Sam and I translated as

    Consecutive Hit Slash (連擊斬)- Combo - Combo Attack
    Dodge (回避) - Moon Shadow - Evasive Roll (though, Moon Shadow sounds pretty nice)
    Moonlight Resonance (月光의 孔明)- Moonlight Burst - Moonlight Dash
    Rise Hit Slash (昇擊斬) - Rising Shot - Skyward Slash
    Wind Slash (風斬) - Cross Way - Gale Slash
    Rupture Slash (破裂斬) - Burst - Piercing Moonlight
    Earth Hit Slash (地擊斬) - Cutting - Fracture
    Moon Wave Slash (月波斬) - Split - Moon Fang
    Moonlight Lunge (月光跳躍) - Dash Cut - Lunar Rush
    Rise Attack (起床攻擊) - Rising Attack - Retaliate
    Moonlight Gravity (月光의 引力)- Moon Gravity - Lunar Gravity
    Moonlight Blast (月光爆)- Throw Glaive - Lunar Crash
    Consecutive Spin Slash (連廻斬)- Helicopter Cuts - Rolling Moon
    Moonlight Follow (月光沿) - Moon Catch - Umbra Slash
    Soul Hit Slash (魂擊斬)- Fatal Shot - Soul Scythe
    True Moon Light (眞月明)- Moonlight - Gathering Moonlight
    Spin Wind Slash (旋風斬)- Twister - Typhoon
    New Moon: Moonlight Resonance (新月:月光의 孔明) - Crescent Cut - New Moon: Moonlight Burst
    Moonlight's Blessing (月光의 加護) - Moon Grace Buff - Moonlight Sanctuary
    Red Moon (赤月) - Red Moon - Blood Moon
    Full Moon (滿月) - Full Moon - Full Moon

    You may have noticed (明) this character has sun(日) and moon (月) together, creating Bright (明) since both sun and moon provides light to the word day and night.

    With the amount of "moon" present in the original text, (not counting 明), that's 11/21. At least half of their skills are based on moon.

    Also check out how some skill animation shows Moon:

    Moonlight Blast (月光爆)- Throw Glaive - Lunar Crash:
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    Red Moon (赤月) - Red Moon - Blood Moon
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    There are several others where if you use Full moon, you will see that it draws ~8m radius sized moon on the ground, indicating the range of the attack (although, the attack still hits at around 10~12m).

    I stand corrected! The moves you showed definitely have moon references in them. The footage I've seen from the class shows fire elements as well, along with a lot of "slash" particle effects and wave effects, but seeing those screenshots is undeniable proof that there's a tie between the crescent weapon and the shape of the moon.

    As for the names of moves that you listed - they're direct translations from Korean. Part of localizing a game includes renaming things, so a move called "Gathering Moonlight" as a direct translation in Korean can easily turn into something like "Harness Aether" depending on the theme we go with. I hadn't seen the names you listed as a direct translation so I apologize for my comment!
  • SpacecatsSpacecats admin
    AxeI wrote: »
    Spacecats wrote: »
    kamalr wrote: »
    'Moonlight Warrior'/'Lunar Dancer' were good names because they at least referenced their moon-based abilities, and what they do in combat.

    Not to shoot down anyone's suggestions, but as far as I've seen none of the class moves have a direct reference to a moon in their appearance.

    Prime example that most of the time you don't know what you're doing, you honestly should feel bad.

    Well it's at least a prime example that I'm human. I do feel bad.
  • J57LR39EYAJ57LR39EYA ✭✭
    Doesn't matter what the class name is, 99% of the people are still going to play this very overpowered class :)
  • JBGamingJBGaming ✭✭✭
    I say leave it over powered and deal with it. Maybe things will be more of a challenge.
  • YuxibrYuxibr ✭✭✭
    edited March 2017
    But its just the name of the class, you can name it the way you like. |o|
    Anyway, nice move making a poll to stop these cry babies EME! xD
  • SpacecatsSpacecats admin
    edited March 2017
    Thanks to the feedback you guys have provided (both here, in other threads, in chat, and in the Player Council), a new poll has been created to determine the name of the new class:

    https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/12114/poll-name-the-next-tera-class


    Please do your part by spreading the word. Let everyone know about this poll so we can get a solid result that represents as many TERA players as possible.

    I'm leaving the discussion in the poll itself closed so as to not sway any potential votes with the first comments that happen to pop in the thread. We want to know what YOU feel deep down. What name speaks to you the most? Voting will close at Midnight PST on Sunday, March 5.
  • JBGamingJBGaming ✭✭✭
    @Spacecats
    Thank you
  • PixelatorPixelator ✭✭✭✭
    SadisticMystic wrote: »
    Didn't RU poll on it and ended up choosing Valkyrie? Why not we use Dragoon, a classic name that is known for those that wield glaives or spears and is known for jump based attacks? Valkyries are usually depicted having swords and shields...
    What about Drag-Moon?

    Huh, huh?

    Tough crowd.
  • msoltysplmsoltyspl ✭✭✭
    Please do your part by spreading the word. Let everyone know about this poll so we can get a solid result that represents as many TERA players as possible.

    And lunardancer options is not available .... because ?

    Come on ..
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    valkyrie plz :3

    no glaivedancer plz is too ugly name
  • JBGamingJBGaming ✭✭✭
    I think it's fair we are doing a poll for it. Now that there is a poll I think its' perfectly fair to see the results of the over all community choice.
  • JBGamingJBGaming ✭✭✭
    Also if you don't do any voting. You have no right to complain if you do not like the class name. Plenty of options to choose from. Plenty of time to vote.
  • mysinsthreemysinsthree ✭
    msoltyspl wrote: »
    Please do your part by spreading the word. Let everyone know about this poll so we can get a solid result that represents as many TERA players as possible.

    And lunardancer options is not available .... because ?

    Come on ..

    I second this.
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