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The Great New Class Debate (Come here if you don't know what to vote for)

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  • I chose valk. Moondancer is too meme-y/edgy for me.
  • msoltysplmsoltyspl ✭✭✭
    edited March 2017
    How is "valkyrie" (read what valkyire is) in any way or form related to lunar dancer background, is beyond me. There is like nothing in common aside both are basically female locked ...

    Why is there no "lunar dancer" option instead of "moon dancer" is another wtf.
    So by process of elimination, I'm casting my vote for Valkyrie.

    Which has even less in common with this class than other options.
  • WitchyGirlWitchyGirl ✭✭
    edited March 2017
    nevermind .....
  • WitchyGirlWitchyGirl ✭✭
    edited March 2017
    nevermind .....
  • WitchyGirlWitchyGirl ✭✭
    edited March 2017
    nevermind .....
  • WitchyGirlWitchyGirl ✭✭
    edited March 2017
    nevermind .....
  • WitchyGirlWitchyGirl ✭✭
    edited March 2017
    nevermind .....
  • would of voted Moon Dancer if it was an option. the other doesnt look right so i went for Valkyrie as it to me is more appealing.
  • EndevaEndeva ✭✭✭✭✭
    msoltyspl wrote: »
    How is "valkyrie" (read what valkyire is) in any way or form related to lunar dancer background, is beyond me. There is like nothing in common aside both are basically female locked ...

    Why is there no "lunar dancer" option instead of "moon dancer" is another wtf.
    So by process of elimination, I'm casting my vote for Valkyrie.

    Which has even less in common with this class than other options.

    How do you know there's no common with Valkyrie? Lore for the new class has yet to be released!

    Moon Dancer should be disqualified for the same reason Lunar Dancer was disqualified

    WitchyGirl wrote: »
    Found this quote of the new class's skills. its based on the moon you guys.
    Moon was the very base concept for this class, thus leading to the choice of weapon being Glaive. Without the concept of moon in mind, this class would never have been created.

    Here, Woldo (월도; 月刀) literally means Moon Blade, which we can call it Crescent Blade. Podao (朴刀; Plain Blade) and Guandao(关刀 ; Blade of Guan Yu). Guandao is also called Crescent Moon Blade (偃月刀) and if you've read Romance of Three Kingdoms or seen any works related to it, you will never miss this weapon called Green Dragon Crescent Blade (青龍偃月刀). Notice that we see 月刀 again, which is Crescent Blade portion of the word, and like I said, this literally means Moon Blade. Guandao is famous enough to appear in several works aside from anything related to three kingdoms.


    At last, a Castanic Female who cuts through enemies at melee range while gathering powers from moonlight to infuse on to their glaives, Lunar Dancer was born. Now we’ll go over more details about the traits that Lunar Dancer has.
    [...]
    There are other various attack motions other than wide swings, and her fluid like chain skills as she slices through her enemies,
    is almost as if she is dancing under the moonlight.


    A melee class that slices through enemies swiftly and elegantly with her weapon infused with the power of moonlight, almost as if she is dancing under moonlight.

    Consecutive Hit Slash (連擊斬)- Combo - Combo Attack
    Dodge (回避) - Moon Shadow - Moon Shadow (it's basically evasive roll )
    Moonlight Resonance (月光의 孔明) - Moonlight Dash - Moonlight Burst
    Rise Hit Slash (昇擊斬) - Rising Shot - Skyward Slash
    Wind Slash (風斬) - Cross Way - Gale Slash
    Rupture Slash (破裂斬) - Burst - Piercing Moonlight
    Earth Hit Slash (地擊斬) - Cutting - Fracture
    Moon Wave Slash (月波斬) - Split - Moon Fang
    Moonlight Lunge (月光跳躍) - Dash Cut - Lunar Rush
    Rise Attack (起床攻擊) - Rising Attack - Retaliate
    Moonlight Gravity (月光의 引力)- Moon Gravity - Lunar Gravity
    Moonlight Blast (月光爆)- Throw Glaive - Lunar Crash
    Consecutive Spin Slash (連廻斬)- Helicopter Cuts - Rolling Moon
    Moonlight Follow (月光沿) - Moon Catch - Umbra Slash
    Soul Hit Slash (魂擊斬)- Fatal Shot - Soul Scythe
    True Moon Light (眞月明)- Moonlight - Gathering Moonlight
    Spin Wind Slash (旋風斬)- Twister - Typhoon
    New Moon: Moonlight Resonance (新月:月光의 孔明) - Crescent Cut - New Moon: Moonlight Burst
    Moonlight's Blessing (月光의 加護) - Moon Grace Buff - Moonlight Sanctuary
    Red Moon (赤月) - Red Moon - Blood Moon
    Full Moon (滿月) - Full Moon - Full Moon

    You may have noticed (明) this character has sun(日) and moon (月) together, creating Bright (明) since both sun and moon provides light to the word day and night.

    With the amount of "moon" present in the original text, (not counting 明), that's 11/21. At least half of their skills are based on moon.

    Also check out how some skill animation shows Moon:

    Moonlight Blast (月光爆)- Throw Glaive - Lunar Crash:
    59115c73a4c7492ab3633ab855c2d955.png

    Red Moon (赤月) - Red Moon - Blood Moon
    c1f9b3df5ae041adbca0fa87b2b49964.png

    There are several others where if you use Full moon, you will see that it draws ~8m radius sized moon on the ground, indicating the range of the attack (although, the attack still hits at around 10~12m).

    En Masse has never named a class after kTera or based on fan-translated names of skills.
  • EndevaEndeva ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2017
    msoltyspl wrote: »
    How is "valkyrie" (read what valkyire is) in any way or form related to lunar dancer background, is beyond me. There is like nothing in common aside both are basically female locked ...

    Why is there no "lunar dancer" option instead of "moon dancer" is another wtf.
    So by process of elimination, I'm casting my vote for Valkyrie.

    Which has even less in common with this class than other options.

    How do you know there;s nothing else in common with Valkyrie? Lore for the new class has yet to be released!

    Moon Dancer should be disqualified for the same reason Lunar Dancer was disqualified!


    WitchyGirl wrote: »
    Found this quote of the new class's skills. its based on the moon you guys.
    Moon was the very base concept for this class, thus leading to the choice of weapon being Glaive. Without the concept of moon in mind, this class would never have been created.

    Here, Woldo (월도; 月刀) literally means Moon Blade, which we can call it Crescent Blade. Podao (朴刀; Plain Blade) and Guandao(关刀 ; Blade of Guan Yu). Guandao is also called Crescent Moon Blade (偃月刀) and if you've read Romance of Three Kingdoms or seen any works related to it, you will never miss this weapon called Green Dragon Crescent Blade (青龍偃月刀). Notice that we see 月刀 again, which is Crescent Blade portion of the word, and like I said, this literally means Moon Blade. Guandao is famous enough to appear in several works aside from anything related to three kingdoms.


    At last, a Castanic Female who cuts through enemies at melee range while gathering powers from moonlight to infuse on to their glaives, Lunar Dancer was born. Now we’ll go over more details about the traits that Lunar Dancer has.
    [...]
    There are other various attack motions other than wide swings, and her fluid like chain skills as she slices through her enemies,
    is almost as if she is dancing under the moonlight.


    A melee class that slices through enemies swiftly and elegantly with her weapon infused with the power of moonlight, almost as if she is dancing under moonlight.

    Consecutive Hit Slash (連擊斬)- Combo - Combo Attack
    Dodge (回避) - Moon Shadow - Moon Shadow (it's basically evasive roll )
    Moonlight Resonance (月光의 孔明) - Moonlight Dash - Moonlight Burst
    Rise Hit Slash (昇擊斬) - Rising Shot - Skyward Slash
    Wind Slash (風斬) - Cross Way - Gale Slash
    Rupture Slash (破裂斬) - Burst - Piercing Moonlight
    Earth Hit Slash (地擊斬) - Cutting - Fracture
    Moon Wave Slash (月波斬) - Split - Moon Fang
    Moonlight Lunge (月光跳躍) - Dash Cut - Lunar Rush
    Rise Attack (起床攻擊) - Rising Attack - Retaliate
    Moonlight Gravity (月光의 引力)- Moon Gravity - Lunar Gravity
    Moonlight Blast (月光爆)- Throw Glaive - Lunar Crash
    Consecutive Spin Slash (連廻斬)- Helicopter Cuts - Rolling Moon
    Moonlight Follow (月光沿) - Moon Catch - Umbra Slash
    Soul Hit Slash (魂擊斬)- Fatal Shot - Soul Scythe
    True Moon Light (眞月明)- Moonlight - Gathering Moonlight
    Spin Wind Slash (旋風斬)- Twister - Typhoon
    New Moon: Moonlight Resonance (新月:月光의 孔明) - Crescent Cut - New Moon: Moonlight Burst
    Moonlight's Blessing (月光의 加護) - Moon Grace Buff - Moonlight Sanctuary
    Red Moon (赤月) - Red Moon - Blood Moon
    Full Moon (滿月) - Full Moon - Full Moon

    You may have noticed (明) this character has sun(日) and moon (月) together, creating Bright (明) since both sun and moon provides light to the word day and night.

    With the amount of "moon" present in the original text, (not counting 明), that's 11/21. At least half of their skills are based on moon.

    Also check out how some skill animation shows Moon:

    Moonlight Blast (月光爆)- Throw Glaive - Lunar Crash:
    59115c73a4c7492ab3633ab855c2d955.png

    Red Moon (赤月) - Red Moon - Blood Moon
    c1f9b3df5ae041adbca0fa87b2b49964.png

    There are several others where if you use Full moon, you will see that it draws ~8m radius sized moon on the ground, indicating the range of the attack (although, the attack still hits at around 10~12m).

    This is a silly argument for Moon Dancer as En Masse has never named a class or skills based on fan translated names of kTera class or skills.
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    WitchyGirl wrote: »
    Found this quote of the new class's skills. its based on the moon you guys.
    Moon was the very base concept for this class, thus leading to the choice of weapon being Glaive. Without the concept of moon in mind, this class would never have been created.

    Here, Woldo (월도; 月刀) literally means Moon Blade, which we can call it Crescent Blade. Podao (朴刀; Plain Blade) and Guandao(关刀 ; Blade of Guan Yu). Guandao is also called Crescent Moon Blade (偃月刀) and if you've read Romance of Three Kingdoms or seen any works related to it, you will never miss this weapon called Green Dragon Crescent Blade (青龍偃月刀). Notice that we see 月刀 again, which is Crescent Blade portion of the word, and like I said, this literally means Moon Blade. Guandao is famous enough to appear in several works aside from anything related to three kingdoms.


    At last, a Castanic Female who cuts through enemies at melee range while gathering powers from moonlight to infuse on to their glaives, Lunar Dancer was born. Now we’ll go over more details about the traits that Lunar Dancer has.
    [...]
    There are other various attack motions other than wide swings, and her fluid like chain skills as she slices through her enemies,
    is almost as if she is dancing under the moonlight.


    A melee class that slices through enemies swiftly and elegantly with her weapon infused with the power of moonlight, almost as if she is dancing under moonlight.

    Consecutive Hit Slash (連擊斬)- Combo - Combo Attack
    Dodge (回避) - Moon Shadow - Moon Shadow (it's basically evasive roll )
    Moonlight Resonance (月光의 孔明) - Moonlight Dash - Moonlight Burst
    Rise Hit Slash (昇擊斬) - Rising Shot - Skyward Slash
    Wind Slash (風斬) - Cross Way - Gale Slash
    Rupture Slash (破裂斬) - Burst - Piercing Moonlight
    Earth Hit Slash (地擊斬) - Cutting - Fracture
    Moon Wave Slash (月波斬) - Split - Moon Fang
    Moonlight Lunge (月光跳躍) - Dash Cut - Lunar Rush
    Rise Attack (起床攻擊) - Rising Attack - Retaliate
    Moonlight Gravity (月光의 引力)- Moon Gravity - Lunar Gravity
    Moonlight Blast (月光爆)- Throw Glaive - Lunar Crash
    Consecutive Spin Slash (連廻斬)- Helicopter Cuts - Rolling Moon
    Moonlight Follow (月光沿) - Moon Catch - Umbra Slash
    Soul Hit Slash (魂擊斬)- Fatal Shot - Soul Scythe
    True Moon Light (眞月明)- Moonlight - Gathering Moonlight
    Spin Wind Slash (旋風斬)- Twister - Typhoon
    New Moon: Moonlight Resonance (新月:月光의 孔明) - Crescent Cut - New Moon: Moonlight Burst
    Moonlight's Blessing (月光의 加護) - Moon Grace Buff - Moonlight Sanctuary
    Red Moon (赤月) - Red Moon - Blood Moon
    Full Moon (滿月) - Full Moon - Full Moon

    You may have noticed (明) this character has sun(日) and moon (月) together, creating Bright (明) since both sun and moon provides light to the word day and night.

    With the amount of "moon" present in the original text, (not counting 明), that's 11/21. At least half of their skills are based on moon.

    Also check out how some skill animation shows Moon:

    Moonlight Blast (月光爆)- Throw Glaive - Lunar Crash:
    59115c73a4c7492ab3633ab855c2d955.png

    Red Moon (赤月) - Red Moon - Blood Moon
    c1f9b3df5ae041adbca0fa87b2b49964.png

    There are several others where if you use Full moon, you will see that it draws ~8m radius sized moon on the ground, indicating the range of the attack (although, the attack still hits at around 10~12m).

    sorry but moondancer suck too much

    moonraker or the dark side of the moon or IO moon or pandora moon or bloodmoon or silvermoon or bluemoon would be nicer B)
  • BonbonnieBonbonnie ✭✭✭
    I chose Valkyrie. Personally, I don't see anything about the class that screams "VALKYRIE!", but the name was the best choice I was given from those available. They are beautiful, angelic-like creatures from Norse mythology that you see as you draw your last breath from dying a valiant death in battle, whom are brought to Valhalla if chosen as worthy. It would have been better suited for a healer or even tank class, but alas here we are. If I can find one reference that might do it justice, it's this picture I found through Wikipedia.

    1024px-Walkyrien_by_Emil_Doepler.jpg
    "Walkyrien" by Emil Doepler

    Now, for my criticisms towards the other class names, if you managed to get this far...

    Paragon

    Seems a bit odd, but sounds pretty cool. The definition of a paragon is "a person or thing regarded as a perfect example of a particular quality." or "a person or thing viewed as a model of excellence." which as some users have already pointed out, Castanics are known for being not the best role models with their devan ancestry looming over them and, well, if you walk the streets of Castanica and speak with an NPC here and there, you'll know Castanic ladies aren't the kind you bring home to meet your mother.

    Moon Dancer

    D-do I really have to say this? Oh... Well okay then.

    Original character do NOT STEAL!!! Just utterly uncreative, something a 9 year old would probably promote.

    Sentinel

    When I think of this class and it's genderlock, I instantly think of Scarlet Blade (or Queen's Blade in S. Korea), infamous for being one of the most overly sexualized games to ever come out of South Korea. It has a class known as the Sentinel which is a loli-gunner class. Not to mention when you look at the definition of the word, it means "a soldier or guard whose job is to stand and keep watch." Yeeeeah.... we're just gonna watch in disappointment with teams that flop in CS.

    Glaivedancer

    Stay away from that hard stuff, EME. That's all I have to say.



    TL;DR Valkyrie sounds pretty neat, others sound like bad sonic character concepts.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Last day of the pool and the numbers do not lie.

    Anyone who knows about statistics and how this tend to bring results on pools by now know the winner.

    I would ask to EME team to put extra effort in this since from today would be the day that some ppl could try to sway or influence the pool to give extra advantage or turn the tide on something that already has been made clear the winner for new class.

    I think there could be a lot of players that didnt join the pool but if they havent already it would be weird and uncommon to then to join by now.

    I dont think we will have more than 100 votes today so this has been settle already.

    Nice try Michael Jackson, You were a proud contender but destiny choose (or better say community choose) a god/goddess like class rather than a pop singer and dancer to be the next class.
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    1024px-Walkyrien_by_Emil_Doepler.jpg

    ye my valkyrie on her flying bacon B)
  • MinazukiMinazuki ✭✭✭
    WitchyGirl wrote: »
    Minazuki wrote: »
    WitchyGirl wrote: »
    Valkyrie sounds more powerful and intimidating. Moondancer sounds too sl*tty and wh*reish. We are after all talking about a female who can kick [filtered] not a stripper who knows how to dance on a pole.

    lol
    i dont associate moondancer with any of those things that you mention. maybe in western culture?

    asian culture worships the moon. they even have new years based on the Moon.
    Lunar New Year.
    moondancer sounds exotic and asian, and it fits in asian- martial-artist -type-of-names.

    Oh well post get eaten by system after fixing a word, so I going repost it = =

    Lunar(太陰/陰/月) New(新) Year(年), this what we call it in Chinese,

    there is a popular holiday in asian countries
    Mid-Autumn Festival
    celebrated by countries like China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam and by ethnic Chinese worldwide.
    its based on the full moon, and they eat things like mooncakes. and its heavly about moon worship

    It related to the moon but not heavily about mon worship. The Festival itself start as a type of thanks giving, people do worship the moon at the day of it but it more about family reunion. There also several folk stories or history about it yet since they are too long so I not going type it. ( text of wall going get hated > < )

    Valkyrie is more with the sun? Ever read some culture like this?
    Sun/life/male = 陽(solar)
    Moon/death/female = 陰(lunar)
    The living world = 陽間/陽界
    The afterlife world = 陰間/陰界
    This kind of culture not just Asian but some western countries also have it.

    If Tera is a historic game then yea they need to follow the lore/myth, yet you realize that Tera is a fantasy game? In this case creator/use could just take a name for the meaning it could have or leave with imagination.
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