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Remove or fix CU

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  • ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Baldurdash wrote: »
    @ElinUsagi The fact is alliances against the top dogs have been tried and failed, and are not worth the effort. You are simplifying it way too much down to "you are lazy". In other pvp games such as Archeage, you can try all you want to form alliances to beat the top guild(s) they will still beat you until they get bored and lose a mass amount of players. The losing side will bleed numbers way faster as morale drops further leading to no one competing.

    It's not laziness it's a lot more complex than that. Alliances can be formed but they will break in seconds if people lose faith.

    Faith is lost if you are not skilled enought, like in evey game and most on pvp games.

    Do you think that tops players and guilds got what they have in one day?

    You are only thinking silly becuase you want everything handed with no effort at all.

    If you are going to get demoralized for this then there is no game out there that is apealing for you in mass pvp.

    Do not think I am wanting things with little effort. I have tried to form alliances against large guilds before while you have a 5 person guild sitting around doing nothing. I have experience while you are sitting there claiming these I and these other people are lazy. Please just stop posting your presumptions it is really annoying. Let me reiterate I have years of mass pvp experience it. is. not. laziness. repeat after me.

    If anything it is these top guilds getting resources handed to them just for having numbers. No skill involved.
  • Do you think that tops players and guilds got what they have in one day?

    You are only thinking silly becuase you want everything handed with no effort at all.

    Are you saying Moneyfest is a top guild? ROFL

    They're the ones that want things like Civil Unrest handed to them without effort.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Baldurdash wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Baldurdash wrote: »
    @ElinUsagi The fact is alliances against the top dogs have been tried and failed, and are not worth the effort. You are simplifying it way too much down to "you are lazy". In other pvp games such as Archeage, you can try all you want to form alliances to beat the top guild(s) they will still beat you until they get bored and lose a mass amount of players. The losing side will bleed numbers way faster as morale drops further leading to no one competing.

    It's not laziness it's a lot more complex than that. Alliances can be formed but they will break in seconds if people lose faith.

    Faith is lost if you are not skilled enought, like in evey game and most on pvp games.

    Do you think that tops players and guilds got what they have in one day?

    You are only thinking silly becuase you want everything handed with no effort at all.

    If you are going to get demoralized for this then there is no game out there that is apealing for you in mass pvp.

    Do not think I am wanting things with little effort. I have tried to form alliances against large guilds before while you have a 5 person guild sitting around doing nothing. I have experience while you are sitting there claiming these I and these other people are lazy. Please just stop posting your presumptions it is really annoying. Let me reiterate I have years of mass pvp experience it. is. not. laziness. repeat after me.

    If anything it is these top guilds getting resources handed to them just for having numbers. No skill involved.

    You are the one that want the easy way.

    You say numbers wins CU, then form a larger alliance than the one monopolizing, if you lack time and skills to compromise then don't bother, as i said before this kind of things is not for ppl that want the outcome changed in one day.
  • ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Baldurdash wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Baldurdash wrote: »
    @ElinUsagi The fact is alliances against the top dogs have been tried and failed, and are not worth the effort. You are simplifying it way too much down to "you are lazy". In other pvp games such as Archeage, you can try all you want to form alliances to beat the top guild(s) they will still beat you until they get bored and lose a mass amount of players. The losing side will bleed numbers way faster as morale drops further leading to no one competing.

    It's not laziness it's a lot more complex than that. Alliances can be formed but they will break in seconds if people lose faith.

    Faith is lost if you are not skilled enought, like in evey game and most on pvp games.

    Do you think that tops players and guilds got what they have in one day?

    You are only thinking silly becuase you want everything handed with no effort at all.

    If you are going to get demoralized for this then there is no game out there that is apealing for you in mass pvp.

    Do not think I am wanting things with little effort. I have tried to form alliances against large guilds before while you have a 5 person guild sitting around doing nothing. I have experience while you are sitting there claiming these I and these other people are lazy. Please just stop posting your presumptions it is really annoying. Let me reiterate I have years of mass pvp experience it. is. not. laziness. repeat after me.

    If anything it is these top guilds getting resources handed to them just for having numbers. No skill involved.

    You are the one that want the easy way.

    You say numbers wins CU, then form a larger alliance than the one monopolizing, if you lack time and skills to compromise then don't bother, as i said before this kind of things is not for ppl that want the outcome changed in one day.

    The fact is that isn't that simple. As a member of a top guild, we tried to revitalize CU:V A little bit. Most of the other guilds in the server banded up against us, the fact is that even that wasn't enough. Top guilds are top guilds for a reason. We have the more skilled, experienced, dedicated and geared players in the server, and because we are a single unit our organization can't be matched by several different guilds banded together. After they spent 2h, lost all BAMs and couldn't even close the CU:V so ended up in a draw they just started to give up and bleed numbers fairly quickly, so back to us vs BAMs in CU:V.

  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Baldurdash wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Baldurdash wrote: »
    @ElinUsagi The fact is alliances against the top dogs have been tried and failed, and are not worth the effort. You are simplifying it way too much down to "you are lazy". In other pvp games such as Archeage, you can try all you want to form alliances to beat the top guild(s) they will still beat you until they get bored and lose a mass amount of players. The losing side will bleed numbers way faster as morale drops further leading to no one competing.

    It's not laziness it's a lot more complex than that. Alliances can be formed but they will break in seconds if people lose faith.

    Faith is lost if you are not skilled enought, like in evey game and most on pvp games.

    Do you think that tops players and guilds got what they have in one day?

    You are only thinking silly becuase you want everything handed with no effort at all.

    If you are going to get demoralized for this then there is no game out there that is apealing for you in mass pvp.

    Do not think I am wanting things with little effort. I have tried to form alliances against large guilds before while you have a 5 person guild sitting around doing nothing. I have experience while you are sitting there claiming these I and these other people are lazy. Please just stop posting your presumptions it is really annoying. Let me reiterate I have years of mass pvp experience it. is. not. laziness. repeat after me.

    If anything it is these top guilds getting resources handed to them just for having numbers. No skill involved.

    You are the one that want the easy way.

    You say numbers wins CU, then form a larger alliance than the one monopolizing, if you lack time and skills to compromise then don't bother, as i said before this kind of things is not for ppl that want the outcome changed in one day.

    The fact is that isn't that simple. As a member of a top guild, we tried to revitalize CU:V A little bit. Most of the other guilds in the server banded up against us, the fact is that even that wasn't enough. Top guilds are top guilds for a reason. We have the more skilled, experienced, dedicated and geared players in the server, and because we are a single unit our organization can't be matched by several different guilds banded together. After they spent 2h, lost all BAMs and couldn't even close the CU:V so ended up in a draw they just started to give up and bleed numbers fairly quickly, so back to us vs BAMs in CU:V.

    Tou are giving me the reason then, they lack compromise, they lack the feeling to try, they give up becuase things dont go their way in the first try.

    I already said that top guilds are top guilds becuase they worked enought time to be in that place, they didnt reach that place the first day they reached lvl 65 on his members.

    This is a fact on games and real life, you cannot compite agaisnt the best with only guts, you have to train, you have to understand what you are lacking, if you need ppl on your side you need to work on that, i never said that all of this is a one day work, several ppl here are the ones who wants to have chances even if they suck at all of that, they want prizes with not effort, they want to see their work paying the very first try, they are just naive.
  • So, the problem of CU is 1 strongest guild controlling it all? Uhm even tho I'm from CH, my guild doesn't join in CU - once it used to, not anymore, not since I joined in lol - but even if, the time it happens just doesn't fit in my timezone - playin' from EU - so I wouldn't join in anyway.
    I'm not going to talk about "objective" lacks of Civil Unrest pvp, bc I have no clue about that as I'm not an heavy pvper nor a developer, just gonna share what I like about the idea and what I do not, comparing to GvG and Alliance system in which I have some more experience.

    I like the fact it's in set times, so that you don't have to worry about being pked while lvling an alt in open world by opposite guild members - it actually happened when I was playing in EU lol and I was like wtf? x) But back then I was more like a mascot for the guild, as I could only run BR (rip) and CS/Kumasylum, so even if I happened to be on my 65 alt I would've ended up dead anyway :|
    It was thrilling to play hide and seek, well, if that was your intentions... also running away with reaper's invisibility while allies got decimated x)
    So, I like the fact it's a weekly event, but at the same time, I don't and I miss old gvg "hide and seek", running to safe cities etc x)

    About Alliances? Stealing keys was fun, I remember the first time I did it I kept using my mount and wondering why the key disappeared from my inventory... b4 being able to understand the reason, I did it like... 10 times :P
    Yeah I'm not that smart when dealing with tactics and strategies, or when you need to read tooltips I guess.
    But overall, it was fun to use the invis potion and pray not to get localized x) I remember I had been ranked only once or twice, bc doing ally quests with those bams was actually boring, but the pvp part was fun tho.
    The bam part maybe with IoD was redundant but that's it... it didn't pass much time from IoD to ally removal if my memory is right.
    I remember once I was near the enemy city, in pvp time and some hrs before Conflict, so I was there and I did meet a slayer with a +15 tensus piece trying to kill me :v
    I was a priest in some [filtered]-rolled t6 deviate xD but you know... priests in 1vs1 x) I remember I slept him 3 times and kept healing/using kayas/potions and even that 1min cooldown protection scroll (rip) then he said "Are you here just for the quests? Uh okay, just go then, but don't steal keys!" and I felt bad about it bc I was actually going to steal keys... so I just tp'ed to safe heaven and said bb :|

    *That* sense of total casual-ity was fun x) Something you won't find in CU where (I guess from what you said) everybody just kicks in to get rewards 'n sht.
  • AyiAyi ✭✭✭
    Can we have alliance pvp back?
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