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  • Yamazuki wrote: »
    Your cpu will be fine and you should go for Windows 10. You also don't have to worry about your gpu, the most typical consumers should ever go for is the higher GTX1060 since that is enough for all games at the current popular resolution. A GTX1070 or higher is only ever going to get you much if you play on higher resolutions, or just want to show off.


    are you sure about win 10 ?, i cant buy gtx 1060(
    315 dolars in my country and 1050 ti 225 dolars) dont have more $$ :<
  • JerichowJerichow ✭✭✭✭
    How soon are you building this computer? In the next couple weeks? Next few months? The reason I ask is because (not trying to hype) Ryzen is likely getting some major performance fixes soon with the W10 scheduler bug fix, along with aftermarket board BIOS fixes that are due in the next few weeks which will likely narrow or eliminate the gap between a good i5/i7 chip, or an R5 or R7 chip.

    If you're not building this for a while, keep an eye out. These bug fixes and BIOS updates are going to make Ryzen's performance better, which if you aren't buying one before the Ryzen 5 series comes out, you may have a cheaper, but equivalent-to contender to the 7700k. If not, it's still the top dog chip for gaming, but I feel that title is going to be stripped of it soon, if not by AMD, but by Intel with its next series. The issue with the 7700k is that it's starting to get tapped out in performance unless you overclock the bajeezus out of it, where as then you run into thermal issues thanks to Intel saving pennies to the dollar on cheap thermal paste... but that's another issue altogether.

    For the motherboard, I always liked Asus. Either you get it and it works forever, or in rare cases you'll get it, it'll die, you send it in and get it replaced, than that board then lasts you forever. Whatever you do, make sure to pair it up with decent RAM, you have the speed/capacity right, but make sure to get some good name stuff. Corsair Vengeance is always good, but I personally am a total fanboy of GSkill Ripjaws (14 years, dozens of builds, zero dead sticks, can't complain with that)

    PSU looks good, just make sure to get a G2 or G3 series that have the 10 year warranty, and make sure to keep an eye on the 12v rail. IIRC all EVGA SuperNOVA G2/G3 power supplies at 600w or higher have a single 50+ amp 12v rail which is ideal. Details aside it's infinitely better than having multiple 12v rails that you have to balance current across. Otherwise, Corsair's power supplies are good but I'm not a fan of their thermally controlled "silent" mode that only turns on after it hits a certain temperature. EVGA's turn the fan on at 20% PSU load, which once you turn a game on, means the PSU's fan turns on, which is ideal. Corsair's run the risk of not turning on and the PSU can run hot, which isn't bad, but makes my skin crawl since I'm a temperature junkie.

    As for the GPU, if you're going with a 1050Ti I'd suggest very strongly to at least consider an RX 470. Yes, I understand it's around $20-$30 more, but in most games, you are getting more than 20% more performance over a 1050Ti. Even if Tera is the only game you play, I'd at least consider a 470 as some of them are nearly as fast as some RX 480's but are of course, cheaper. MSI makes a great GPU with their Gaming X series, and at least here in the US, you can get one for around the price of a 1050Ti at about $179 (the one on Newegg even has a $30 mail in rebate, so it's even cheaper in the end).

    Honestly with this computer, if you want to get a little more longevity out of your system, consider putting a little more money into your GPU if you can and get something a tier higher. Yes, Tera's a very CPU-heavy game, but that i5 you linked will be fine so your big bottleneck will be your GPU. My i5 2500k at stock clocks still plays the game with zero issues, so there's no need to upgrade that if you don't want to. I can't stress hard enough how another $30 will boost the performance of your computer to a huge extent.
  • Jerichow wrote: »
    How soon are you building this computer? In the next couple weeks? Next few months? The reason I ask is because (not trying to hype) Ryzen is likely getting some major performance fixes soon with the W10 scheduler bug fix, along with aftermarket board BIOS fixes that are due in the next few weeks which will likely narrow or eliminate the gap between a good i5/i7 chip, or an R5 or R7 chip.

    If you're not building this for a while, keep an eye out. These bug fixes and BIOS updates are going to make Ryzen's performance better, which if you aren't buying one before the Ryzen 5 series comes out, you may have a cheaper, but equivalent-to contender to the 7700k. If not, it's still the top dog chip for gaming, but I feel that title is going to be stripped of it soon, if not by AMD, but by Intel with its next series. The issue with the 7700k is that it's starting to get tapped out in performance unless you overclock the bajeezus out of it, where as then you run into thermal issues thanks to Intel saving pennies to the dollar on cheap thermal paste... but that's another issue altogether.

    For the motherboard, I always liked Asus. Either you get it and it works forever, or in rare cases you'll get it, it'll die, you send it in and get it replaced, than that board then lasts you forever. Whatever you do, make sure to pair it up with decent RAM, you have the speed/capacity right, but make sure to get some good name stuff. Corsair Vengeance is always good, but I personally am a total fanboy of GSkill Ripjaws (14 years, dozens of builds, zero dead sticks, can't complain with that)

    PSU looks good, just make sure to get a G2 or G3 series that have the 10 year warranty, and make sure to keep an eye on the 12v rail. IIRC all EVGA SuperNOVA G2/G3 power supplies at 600w or higher have a single 50+ amp 12v rail which is ideal. Details aside it's infinitely better than having multiple 12v rails that you have to balance current across. Otherwise, Corsair's power supplies are good but I'm not a fan of their thermally controlled "silent" mode that only turns on after it hits a certain temperature. EVGA's turn the fan on at 20% PSU load, which once you turn a game on, means the PSU's fan turns on, which is ideal. Corsair's run the risk of not turning on and the PSU can run hot, which isn't bad, but makes my skin crawl since I'm a temperature junkie.

    As for the GPU, if you're going with a 1050Ti I'd suggest very strongly to at least consider an RX 470. Yes, I understand it's around $20-$30 more, but in most games, you are getting more than 20% more performance over a 1050Ti. Even if Tera is the only game you play, I'd at least consider a 470 as some of them are nearly as fast as some RX 480's but are of course, cheaper. MSI makes a great GPU with their Gaming X series, and at least here in the US, you can get one for around the price of a 1050Ti at about $179 (the one on Newegg even has a $30 mail in rebate, so it's even cheaper in the end).

    Honestly with this computer, if you want to get a little more longevity out of your system, consider putting a little more money into your GPU if you can and get something a tier higher. Yes, Tera's a very CPU-heavy game, but that i5 you linked will be fine so your big bottleneck will be your GPU. My i5 2500k at stock clocks still plays the game with zero issues, so there's no need to upgrade that if you don't want to. I can't stress hard enough how another $30 will boost the performance of your computer to a huge extent.

    thank you for respond i buy my new pc tomorrow ( yes tomorrow cant wait my current pc core i3 integrated graphis is [filtered] :<) And heard about ryzen is really good but in my country they do not sell ( i think they come in 1 or 2 weeks ) sadly have a budget very tight ( gtx 1060 for me is 80-90 $ more :<) .
  • VirtualONVirtualON ✭✭✭
    @Jerichow Ryzen R71800x is really bad for gaming for its price, especially TERA. I don't know what bug fixes and BIOS updates will magically give Ryzen 20% more IPC. It is just not gonna happen.

    Ryzen 1800X with 8 cores and price tag of $499 is intended to compete with the $1099 8-core i7 5960X in multi-threaded applications like video encoding. For gaming it is a horrible, horrible choice vs the $329 7700k. Because it is 20% slower per clock and has 15% lower clock.

    Ryzen R7 can't even overclock much past 4GHz because it has 8 cores and run into thermal limit really fast.

    The only sensible thing to do if you desperately want an AMD CPU for gaming is to wait for the 4-core R3 series (H2 2017) and hope it will offer the same IPC as R7 series and will be able to overclock to at least 4.5GHz. Very unlikely to hit those clock, but otherwise AMD won't be able to compete with Intel in gaming.
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bloodriver wrote: »
    Yamazuki wrote: »
    Your cpu will be fine and you should go for Windows 10. You also don't have to worry about your gpu, the most typical consumers should ever go for is the higher GTX1060 since that is enough for all games at the current popular resolution. A GTX1070 or higher is only ever going to get you much if you play on higher resolutions, or just want to show off.


    are you sure about win 10 ?, i cant buy gtx 1060(
    315 dolars in my country and 1050 ti 225 dolars) dont have more $$ :<

    I wasn't saying to get a GTX1060, just if you went beyond a GTX1050ti a GTX1060 would be all, anything beyond that is a waste for most people. As for Windows 10, I've been using it and it works better than Windows 7 did. Windows 10 after the fixes mostly had issues with computers being upgraded to it, although a completely new install on a computer it won't run into as many issues unless there's somehow a driver problem.
  • DesuskyDesusky ✭✭✭
    My Advice:
    CPU: AMD 1700 (it overclocks basically same as a 1800x but 200 cheaper)
    GPU: AMD RX 480 (better than a gtx 1060 and cheaper)
    MOBO: Any cheap good brand that can overclock (asus, msi, gigabyte)
  • VirtualONVirtualON ✭✭✭
    Why do you recommend R7 1700 when i7-7700k is superior in gaming and cheaper?
  • DesuskyDesusky ✭✭✭
    VirtualON wrote: »
    Why do you recommend R7 1700 when i7-7700k is superior in gaming and cheaper?

    more cores
    i like to run multiple programs/games
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