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Reasons why and how the gunner is still op..

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  • @LHMG4YDWYJ Archer still shits on Gunner. Most melee classes have to burst extra hard to beat gunner in most cases
  • gunman is very over powered and they should nerf gunman ASAP!!!!! st turret is VERY OP!!! i agree bluereprisal
  • AyiAyi ✭✭✭
    gunmen overpowered confirmed
  • VirtualONVirtualON ✭✭✭
    edited March 2017
    1v1 . Gunner rapes any melee class because of the unholy robot. But Sorc, Archer and Reaper should have no problem kicking Gunner's [filtered].

    3v3 gunner is pretty bad because they can't generate enough pressure.

    Mass PvP Gunner is very strong because eh ranged class and huge AoE and easy to play.
  • gunman cn throw out grenade+turret+mini bot and be an army even in 1v1! baldera can 1 shot everybody and is very big so its very hard to dodge!!!
  • AyiAyi ✭✭✭
    u kno gunmen tick 5% health per turret and explode it stun u
  • Everything on gunner is super easy to dodge, counter, or just walk around. There's litterally no reason to talk crap abut Gunner when most other classes can go through a full damage rotation off stuns and have you dead while a Gunner makes you lose 40~% health through a full combo, not to mention RESETS are based off RNG so if they don't get the resets, they have to wait off of massive cooldowns.
  • Gunner broken af against slayers :c
  • @Coolkicl oh [filtered], your the fast [filtered] slayer from yesterday
  • @Coolkicl oh [filtered], your the fast [filtered] slayer from yesterday
    ^
  • VirtualON wrote: »
    1v1 . Gunner rapes any melee class because of the unholy robot. But Sorc, Archer and Reaper should have no problem kicking Gunner's [filtered].

    3v3 gunner is pretty bad because they can't generate enough pressure.

    Mass PvP Gunner is very strong because eh ranged class and huge AoE and easy to play.

    This basically sums up gunner, but unbalanced class matchups is just a part of the game at this point.
    All duels/1v1s are is like a scale, which has three elements to be scaled:
    Gear difference, class matchup, skill

    One can excel in any of the three to have an edge in a duel. QQing over it wont make it disappear. Every time something is nerfed people QQ, and while I respect that you just wanted to get the fact that people are overreacting out there, youre not really doing a good job at executing it.

    It wont go away, whatever VirtualON said is the basic truth in terms of game mechanics, and whatever I said I believe is just how everything else goes.
  • KiraboshiKiraboshi ✭✭✭
    edited March 2017
    Gunner is functionally the easiest class in the game to be halfway decent at in PvP, but that doesn't make it OP. A good player who understands what to avoid will do the gunners job of area-denial, harassment, and nuke far more effectively as a reaper or a sorcerer. Gunners sacrifice a lot of offense in comparison to those two classes in exchange for hand-holding features that you really don't need if you are any good.

    It's a crutch class and nothing more.
  • JBGamingJBGaming ✭✭✭
    A level 52 mystic can take out a lvl 58 gunner in a duel. How is gunner op? Maybe you just don't know how to fight against a gunner? Maybe you have studied duel sessions with friends to find weakness in the classes fighting style. Every class has a strength, every class has a weakness. It's up to you to find that weakness. Then once you find it; it's up to you to learn what you can do to exploit that weakness against them. Distance and attack speed are a gunners best friends next to it's little hb pet. The closer you are to a gunner, the less op it actually is.
  • JBGamingJBGaming ✭✭✭
    Belonging wrote: »
    gunman is very over powered and they should nerf gunman ASAP!!!!! st turret is VERY OP!!! i agree bluereprisal
    Warriors
    You can destroy the turret. After you stun the gunner. And you can stun the gunner after a successful block with your smoke flanker or aggressor. When you stun the gunner. The first thing you should do is destroy the turret then close back in on the gunner using poison blade back stabs and all that. AS and CR are a Warriors best friend as well as being up close and personaly. You can't evade and run away you have to be aggressive up close and personal with a gunner.


    My recommendation is watch duel sessions on different classes
    VirtualON wrote: »
    1v1 . Gunner rapes any melee class because of the unholy robot. But Sorc, Archer and Reaper should have no problem kicking Gunner's [filtered].

    3v3 gunner is pretty bad because they can't generate enough pressure.

    Mass PvP Gunner is very strong because eh ranged class and huge AoE and easy to play.

    The only thing I can agree to is the heal bot. It cannot be destroyed except by the caster.

    In my opinion we should be able to destroy the heal bot. A mystics thralls can be destroyed, why not a gunners heal bot? That's the one thing I don't think is fair about the gunner class at present. I actually tested this the other day, I couldn't even attack the heal bot or get my thralls to. So heal the hb bot needs a little nerfing.

  • ArnetraArnetra ✭✭✭
    edited March 2017
    Doubt they'll ever remove the bot's invulnerability. Pve would be [filtered] since bot is necessary for dps, and would need to be able to tank floor mechanics and stuff, I don't think Bluehole wants the headache of balancing that and dealing with all the issues an extra body tanking things could cause. If it became destructible it'd have to be super tanky, in which case there'd have been no point is making it destructible in the first place.

    Also, would being able to destroy the bot really help? Bot will now tank lock-ons. Backstabs will now move you behind the bot for an easy stun, or point blank confirm stun. AoE damage can now split on the gunner and the bot giving the gunner some extra survivability. This is in addition to that fact that its an extra body standing around tanking attacks and getting in the way in general. Would only hurt gunner in mass pvp where the bot would get wrecked by all the random damage flying around.

    Regarding whether gunner is OP, I don't think so. Melee matchups are more difficult due to the bot but become more even if you're good enough to block/iframe/bait it. It's a noob killer, low skill players will always be complaining about it, doesn't mean it's OP. Zerk and Slayer are still going to have trouble without nostrum/big CD cheese or a bunch of good reads. Those classes are in need of proper reworks for pvp anyway, so that's not an indication of gunner being OP. For group pvp, it's poor for small scale and great for large. Is that OP when there are classes that are good at both though?

    Quality of life buffs and the option to take power instead of crit on equalized gear would be the ideal changes for gunner in its current state if you ask me.
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