Proof Lancers become more broken than Brawlers!

Nopi · May 2016

Not to bother anyone. Just my opinion. I myself find lancer tanking more fun and rewarding than brawler tanking. Even soloing, playing my lancer feels more intense, even though I play both of them with minimal skill links, preferring to do pretty much all manually. I don't mind which is better or not. I just find one more fun to play than the other. Plus having a small elin in full plate with a shield as big as herself is plain funny to look at.

Again. Just my opinion.

LancerJiva · May 2016

Decore wrote: »

LancerJiva wrote: »

As a lancer main for nearly 3 years, and fully geared with +15 starfall, I can say that my +12 Dreadnaught brawler still outdps's my lancer.

I do IoD dailies on all my 65's and my Brawler is the fastest right up there with my gunner among all my characters. If anything, brawler still needs more nerfing.

I play with sub 40 ping too.

--- I haven't done ghilli on my lancer this patch, but I am just refering to IoD bam experience.

Why nerf brawler? You know lancers are getting more buffed right!? Or do you want to reach a point where you want to be able to do more damage than brawlers, have more buffs and mobility aswell? Well you cant just have everything, because thats a definition of what makes a broken class.

I just said why.

My +12 Dreadnaught brawler does more damage then my starfall lancer. Its cause brawler is a dps tank while lancer is just a tank.

sajinwolf · May 2016

Tht one lancer in that video is 1 in a million, about 5% of the lancers who play tera can do that.... and u also have to take in account how op brawlers are in pvp, have you ever tired to kill a brawler on a lancer. With a lancer you actually have time each of ur skills perfectly to execute stagger combos. Lancers must also block cancel out combos quickly to dish out maximum damage. Brawlers can just run around ground pounding and spinning without paying attention. Alls u need to kno to be successful on a bralwer is spin aim north, east, or south and ur stun kick will land. Then u jab them with a high crit chance punch skill and do 50k

Svafnir · May 2016

Decore wrote: »

Buff back brawlers!!!! Why is BHS nerfing them? Do they want them to become an irrelevant fod class in the future because lancers can now do the same amount of dps if not even more aswell as be able to provide party buffs. At that point who will even take a brawler into the party and it will just become a joke of a crude class to play ;(

So, you show a link of a lancer using Slaying niveot, all 4 types of food, brooch, bravery potion, heaven's elixir and noctenium PLUS the addition of w/e effects the talents might have on certain skills. You, however, do not know what set is it this person is using, judging by the date on the video and the time since the patch was released on Korea I have to absolutely assume it's +15 Imperator set.

Since you wanna show a super speed run on a class and complain about it I'll do the same.

+15 Starfall (most likely) using the same things as the lancer on the video except noctenium and the 4 foods, the result? 18 seconds Ghillieglade, and you still say they're getting "unfairly nerfed" in your other thread in the second page in general forums?
Just think this is NOT the current BiS gear, if you were to find a video of a brawler with the same conditions as that lancer I'm more than certain it would STILL defeat Banyakas faster than a lancer. Showing a random video you pulled out of youtube is proof of nothing besides ignorance that people doing slaying runs are more than prepared to not get hit by a single thing plus the fact they're experts at their classes and most likely have an unusually low ping which comprises a VERY NARROW group of people playing in TERA NA.

You video shows a Pro Lancer doing a more than easy dungeon flawlessly
The one below shows a good Brawler doing the same with a set one tier below minus some consumables.

End result is the same, People that are good at their class will be good at it. On normal circumstances however, a not so very skilled lancer will fall miles behind a not so skilled brawler with the exact same conditions merely because the raw damage of brawler is ridiculous.

Catorii · May 2016

>Implying that a brawler couldn't do the exact same thing in a shorter amount of time.

Lol. Yeah. Brawlers are totally irrelevant. Buff pls.

CorviRei · May 2016

w..w..what about war tank? :c

Svafnir · May 2016

CorviRei wrote: »

w..w..what about war tank? :c

They are left to die a very lonely death in the confines of BoL because BHS refuses to give actual tanking buffs to Zerk and Warrior other than an astounding D-Stance aggro generation buff for warriors

Jerichow · May 2016

Decore wrote: »

I might aswell just buy a lv60 scroll and create a lancer again if this BS continues to happen.

Proof right there that OP just wants everything to be easy. If you aren't even willing enough to do the leveling to properly learn your class, as fast as leveling is now, then honestly I don't see any reason in trying to explain anything further. You're just mad because your easy-mode class got nerfed and actually requires a modicum of challenge.

CorviRei · May 2016

Svafnir wrote: »

CorviRei wrote: »

w..w..what about war tank? :c

They are left to die a very lonely death in the confines of BoL because BHS refuses to give actual tanking buffs to Zerk and Warrior other than an astounding D-Stance aggro generation buff for warriors

I'm paraphrasing a previous post I saw on reddit but basically, there has been a paradigm shift in tanking where they are now measured by how much damage they do, and not by whether or not they can hold aggro well, because holding aggro is now easier than looking for dank memes on tumblr. Gone are the days when holding aggro against a high DPS party and keeping a boss fight grounded were qualities that players looked for in a tank. Now everyone is so caught up in worrying whether or not tank class A needs to be nerfed/buffed over tank classes B and C that the very definition of being a tank has been lost. You're not tanking, you're DPSing from the front.

Catorii · May 2016

CorviRei wrote: »

Svafnir wrote: »

CorviRei wrote: »

w..w..what about war tank? :c

They are left to die a very lonely death in the confines of BoL because BHS refuses to give actual tanking buffs to Zerk and Warrior other than an astounding D-Stance aggro generation buff for warriors

I'm paraphrasing a previous post I saw on reddit but basically, there has been a paradigm shift in tanking where they are now measured by how much damage they do, and not by whether or not they can hold aggro well, because holding aggro is now easier than looking for dank memes on tumblr. Gone are the days when holding aggro against a high DPS party and keeping a boss fight grounded were qualities that players looked for in a tank. Now everyone is so caught up in worrying whether or not tank class A needs to be nerfed/buffed over tank classes B and C that the very definition of being a tank has been lost. You're not tanking, you're DPSing from the front.

You're comparing apples and oranges. Warrior aggro was not as strong as lancer/brawler was after the patch. It still probably isn't even with all the massive aggro gen they've slapped on D-Stance. Large part of that is probably their lack of damage in current gear though.

Ilythien · May 2016

Are you afraid of become no more an OP brawler?
Well, the times, they are changing. Accept the destiny. xD.

Hyspherical · May 2016

Why can't classes that require more skill give a better outcome when played at their max potential?

Never mind. That makes too much sense.

Ayi · May 2016

Lancer main for 5 years.

Hyspherical · May 2016

Brawler was broken to begin with. This is just a process of it being brought to reasonable terms. For brawler mobility they only nerfed that one thing which was obscenely op to begin with. You're a metal class anyway. Lancers and zerkers only just now started receiving some mobility/evasive buffs.

Proof Lancers become more broken than Brawlers!

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