Why are Mystics expected to dps now?

DGCMXTMHRP · May 2016

I was doing a dungeon before maintenance and I got a ninja and a reaper in my party. I started doing what a mystic is generally suppose to be doing, aura's, thrall of protection, debuffing the boss, dropping motes, healing.

Then the reaper stopped dps'ing for like 20 seconds, and then the ninja asked ME why I was just standing there, when i was actively debuffing/healing, dodging the bosses mechanics, which sometimes dps doesn't see because they're usually paying attention to the boss or whatever, so I let it slide. But then they proceeded to curse at me and told me to learn my class because I wasn't dpsing? They attacked ME for some reason because the reaper stopped, but eventually came back and killed the boss fairly quickly.

But yeah, I don't understand why a healing class with one dodge skill in +10 dreadnaught, healer crystals, and a healer skill setup, Is suppose to be dishing out large amounts of damage now to make up of for the ninja's lack of? I could see why they would be expecting me to do some damage if I was in starfall or even slaughter but I'm not???

At the last boss, I didn't heal the ninja, And there health got low and they stopped attacking and stood on the sidelines, because I guess there incapable of dodging attacks. Which didn't really effect anything anyway because the boss was dead within 2 mins thanks to the reaper.

Eh, sorry for venting on the forums but I wanted to now people's opinions on this.

but I never had an encounter like this with someone calling me an idiot/learn how to play my class for not dpsing as a mystic. And I don't have thick skin so this really bothered me, even though I know I was doing my job.

Luhz · May 2016

it honestly just sounds like a mistake. maybe in the heat of battle they thought they were arguing with the reaper instead of you.

Mobius1 · May 2016

Honestly, if you only have time to debuff and heal, then you should do that. But if the group is taking minimal damage, and you have time to DPS, then why not do some DPS?

DGCMXTMHRP · May 2016

I do sometimes go in with Metamorphic Blast/Metamorphic Smite and try to use corruption ring when I can, but I just stopped trying to when I saw how little it was doing. I just didn't see the point. But I do still corruption ring when I see an opening/ not doing other things to do some damage and give mana to my party.

Mobius1 · May 2016

Well, they can't expect much more from you, unless you have a priest, heh. Unless they want no heals...

Thanatos375 · May 2016

Lemme guess, this was in Channelworks? I've heard of folks kicking healers in there, tbh. Frankly, with heals/debuffs getting done all proper-like, the only other thing I can think of would be abusing the heck out of the double Thrall buff. Toss Protection/Vengeance, occasionally substitute Wrath for Vengeance. (You could also pop some Metamorphics out there.)
Failing that, you quite possibly ran into a pair of asshats. Unfortunate, but it happens.

Mobius1 · May 2016

If it happens again, just DPS and don't heal them.

DGCMXTMHRP · May 2016

Thanks for the advice! and yes it was Channelworks. I'll make a new skill setup for when I go in there and throw some dps in, to avoid getting raged at from now on.

mollyya · May 2016

It's not your fault for not DPSing, neither reaper and ninja's fault for expecting you to DPS. Blame BHS because they ruined class balance and made the position of mystic questionable at the moment. Mystic deals about 1/2 damage output compare to regular DPS classes in party dungeons and it has best damage output in solo dungeons and IoD bams.

But, reaper and ninja refused to attack because you weren't attacking as they expected. That's a shame on them.

KatsumiNeko · May 2016

Were the two in same guild? Same server? If so I can see why only these two acted that way.

The other outcome perhaps was when ninja put "butthole card" on you, that reaper decided to join in to act "smart" thinking ninja has got the point(trust me know this case too well to happen). And again lets not exclude "trolling" as per usual, there are guys who team up to go to instances only to troll. I'm not even kidding about this case, you can see in global someone asking "Hey who wants to join my CS raid to troll" or even in LFG you can find "Party to troll" and things as that.

I also was "told my thang" on my priest by one slayer who was using dps meter and as expected, priest in +12 schisma plus PRIEST, had lowest dps and who cares that that priest saved them multiple times(because no one DOGES) and lets not even forget that priest was only one who didn't get whipped by last boss's annihilation attack like entire party was and then I needed to ress them all!!!
But again like I said who cares, my dps was lowest in brawler/ slayer and two gunners party(wonder WHY again lol), so that means I was doing horrible job at my JOB! Because I chose healing over dps-ing. (also never could get people who use dps meters, except "I'm elitist [filtered] that likes to shove down everyone's throat how much I dps and they don't", which is proven by guy as this).

DGCMXTMHRP · May 2016

Not sure if the two were in the same guild/server honestly was to mad to remember. But in the reapers defense, they didn't say anything at all, it was just the ninja that was super awful. ;-; It could've still been a troll mission on both ends though.

Meowdita · May 2016

Just because one or two koreans pulled off a "dps mystic" doesn't mean everyone is expected to be so >.> especially considering that KTera has the talent system and no other region does.

You did your job, got trolled or bad mannered by a bad player, treat it as one of those usual crappy IMS parties. No worth getting thick skin for it.

KatsumiNeko · May 2016

^Also don't forget to mention that players of KTera actually play!
Sadly most NA players need to be carried like a babies trough dungeon. When I'm on mystic no one stacks at KC/KD, forgetting I'm mystic and not priest to pull in here. Also people who forget to take care of adds in these dungeons and also don't get behind bomb.(On priest kaia can partially fix that mistake of theirs...but mystic can't and that part can be fatal or drop your hp way below)
Mystic got quite a candy with last patch, but sadly that "candy" makes almost zero difference if you go to instance, because players tend to ignore dungeon mechanics too much even if you tell them what to do, they will still ignore it, mystics can't still carry in way priests do, most party in instance comes as soon as their ilvl lets them, meaning their dps isn't gonna be great and it shall take time to take care of dungeon, but they will be impatient still and complain as if it was yours fault for their ilvl, lets not even go with wrong set of crystals(even no crystal cases that still happen in lv 65 dungeon for some reason), party members refusing to kick afk/offline/no crystal guy that refuses to wear crystal member, doge/blocking doesn't exist because there is healer to be idiot who shall "fix" it, both priest and mystic can't heal party as this all the time, most likely they shall die not using complete crystalbind and then decide to yell at healer for losing some crystal of theirs that even wasn't worth much/at all in first place. It is just how NA Tera works -__-

Mobius1 · May 2016

You lost me at trying to claim that Ktera players are better than NA players...

Ghost915 · May 2016

QUESTION: By DPS Mystic, do you mean using the offensive Thralls? Because I usually have them fighting since it's pretty useful, even if they're just a damage sponge - every little bit counts.

In all honesty, I won't go crazy with the debuffs because I find it's a huge mana guzzler. I focus on healing and DPSing (if Thralls count) but then again, it depends on what kind of party you have, how much they need to be healed or if they're good enough dodging/blocking on their own.

Please answer my question though idk if DPS Mystic includes thralls or just our base skills ;w; Because I typically save my debuffing for PVP...

TimesNewRamen · May 2016

Ghost915 wrote: »

QUESTION: By DPS Mystic, do you mean using the offensive Thralls? Because I usually have them fighting since it's pretty useful, even if they're just a damage sponge - every little bit counts.

In all honesty, I won't go crazy with the debuffs because I find it's a huge mana guzzler. I focus on healing and DPSing (if Thralls count) but then again, it depends on what kind of party you have, how much they need to be healed or if they're good enough dodging/blocking on their own.

Please answer my question though idk if DPS Mystic includes thralls or just our base skills ;w; Because I typically save my debuffing for PVP...

Thralls, yes. They do help. (and since I have my Thrall of Protection's Glyph of Grounding glyphed, I try to keep this one alive as much as I can) As for debuff, you need to keep up with Volley stack and Contagion because it helps A LOT to burn bosses faster. Make sure you have the endurance debuff glyphed on both Volley and Contagion. For mana problem, there's always Corruption Ring. Use it for a couple of seconds and you'll have Infusion Ring that can charge up a pretty good amount of MP.

As for PVP, I usually use my stun ball first and use whatever debuff I have in mind that can cc chain and at the same time annoy the [filtered] out of people :awesome:

Why are Mystics expected to dps now?

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