Sorcerer, archer and warrior are overbuffed?

Consonance · April 2017

reapers are aight.. they're only broken because equalized gear isn't balanced and you have way more attack mod than defense mod and reapers damage doesn't come from a super long combo so you can throw out random skills out and pick up tons of kills! in ow where everybody has +15 and whatever that pvp set is called i don't think reaper is as impactful as they are in solo 3s and fwc!

JudithJaeger · April 2017

Go play a real class , like LANCERR

Consonance · April 2017

JudithJaeger wrote: »

Go play a real class , like LANCERR

lancers are just as broken as any other class but you actually need a brain to compete at the highest level!

GlitchyTrash · April 2017

@Consonance Initial thoughts on Valk?

Assassins249 · April 2017

Everybody talks about strategies and that rubbish , In tera that does not exist, pvp is as garbage as your balance, play lol, that if it is pure strategy, tera strategy is simple, if you stunean uses broche, the first stunee wins, that's simple, that is, The one with the lowest ping wins , Play gunner, the class nerfer of the moment, slow, few skiles, maybe have a high damage, but no one asks, having skiles so slow and high Cooldown, how will they? No one talks about the archer, has more damage than the gunner and his skiles are as fast as a bullet, a gunner arcane removes 65k being well equipped and rolled, an archer skill removes 102k and does not need to be well equipped, speed Arcane's impact is 3.5 seconds, the archer's speed is 0.3 seconds, the game is in poor condition because of its stupid logic, I give 1 year more life to this game, greetings and with this I retire definitively Of this nonsense game crap

MiskuChan · April 2017

gib wrote: »

MiskuChan wrote: »

TheNobleNoble wrote: »

@MiskuChan Pls. Everything counters something else in tera. You can't say there's no skill because it takes skills in one mech to counter another (stagger locking vs stun resist for example).

Tbh some of the stuff on you list are actually allowed in PvP because they're not that braoken and take those away and you don't have that class (take away lancer giga you, dont have a lancer. Take away invisible traps, whats the point of a trap?)

Stop blaming the game and get gud

I can't really give you a serious response, without giga there's no lancer without ivisi traps what's the point in a trap?????????????????????????????

That's pretty funny I can't lie.

but lancer really doesnt have any utility if you take away their giga lol. they have almost nothing else they can bring to the table (7 second rally cry lol...)

and there's no point to having archer "traps" if your opponent can SEE the traps and consciously avoid them

Archers dominated for years with visible traps, lancer giga has been breaking this game's PvP since day 1.

If you don't know that, it's useless having a conversation with you.

Palochi · April 2017

@GlitchyTrash its aids.
If, as valk, you manage to not kill in one combo; you can stun Retaliate 90% of the times.
If you somehow still don't kill the enemy with that, you can KD lock them.
Its fairly easy to kite Valks for now at least, as long as you can predict the Sadstab..but we need to wait for ppl to get used and "good" with the class so they become aggressive and less predictable to see how much of that is true.

gib · April 2017

MiskuChan wrote: »

gib wrote: »

MiskuChan wrote: »

TheNobleNoble wrote: »

@MiskuChan Pls. Everything counters something else in tera. You can't say there's no skill because it takes skills in one mech to counter another (stagger locking vs stun resist for example).

Tbh some of the stuff on you list are actually allowed in PvP because they're not that braoken and take those away and you don't have that class (take away lancer giga you, dont have a lancer. Take away invisible traps, whats the point of a trap?)

Stop blaming the game and get gud

I can't really give you a serious response, without giga there's no lancer without ivisi traps what's the point in a trap?????????????????????????????

That's pretty funny I can't lie.

but lancer really doesnt have any utility if you take away their giga lol. they have almost nothing else they can bring to the table (7 second rally cry lol...)

and there's no point to having archer "traps" if your opponent can SEE the traps and consciously avoid them

Archers dominated for years with visible traps, lancer giga has been breaking this game's PvP since day 1.

If you don't know that, it's useless having a conversation with you.

i dont think you understand what i was saying with my post man.

the whole point of a trap is to -trap- your opponent. if they can *see* the trap, then there's no point of it being a "trap". the only way archers dominated with traps is the cq combo stun trap lol. they're a lot like the "traps" they should have. besides, you can see where they put the trap if you pay attention..

if you TAKE AWAY lancer's giga, the class is complete trash. they have no UTILITY in pvp other than 1v1/3v3. the only reason lancer stays relevant in mass is because of giga.

obviously i know that lancers have dominated at the beginning of the game, but at this point they're not that great anymore. and archers are only relevant because of the cq combo. other than that, they're just annoying.

TheNobleNoble · April 2017

Assassins249 wrote: »

Says the reaper is the most useless class, son I invite you to play with gunner , At the moment it is the class more neafeada that there is, desync, much cooldown, very slow, little defense in comparison to the lancer or brawler that already they possess an shield OP , Although it is true that the archer kills you of 1 simple combo, the reaper can also kill you 1 combo, because I know? Because my main is reaper, I can kill the one I want without straining, if I catch him with my cable, everything will be finished for him , Tera is currently the worst pvp game ever seen, it does not make sense to talk about balance at these times.

Still gunner has 2 op skills than can one shot ppl if they land and reaper does take a bit of aiming. It beginner level it's still pretty [filtered] but ppl like myon and numb make it look like the most broken [filtered] ever, imo. i dont think that really pvp's seriously actually cares about balance at this point, everyone is here for the combat system.

TheNobleNoble · April 2017

@LHMG4YDWYJ Your just really butt hurt

aeee98 · April 2017

The reason why reaper is broken is because of near infinite staggerlock in lowping. You basically have no chance to escape most of the time.

At middle-ish and up (100+) ping, reaper's effectiveness drops massively. You can't just expect to "spacebar" and get the full combo off. But most average players don't know that, and most who do actually have even worse ping and just can't get out due to ping disadvantage.

This game is simple. If you have low ping, you should almost always win unless you are really bad at the game.

In a 1v1 if you actually walk into a trap, you are very bad at the game lol (you would have known where the trap would land just by seeing the direction the archer is shooting the trap arrow). Maybe in FWC/CS it gets annoying, but that is not something you have to deal with alone.

Consonance · April 2017

LHMG4YDWYJ wrote: »

> @Consonance said:
> reapers are aight.. they're only broken because equalized gear isn't balanced and you have way more attack mod than defense mod and reapers damage doesn't come from a super long combo so you can throw out random skills out and pick up tons of kills! in ow where everybody has +15 and whatever that pvp set is called i don't think reaper is as impactful as they are in solo 3s and fwc!

Reapers are broken because you can have 100% effort on a warrior but only achieve 30% of a reaper that puts in 50% effort.

The class is for monkeys. Reapers are not "aight" its a busted class that should have been deleted long time ago.

And for the idiot who is saying gunners have lower defence than lancer and brawler, you are a RANGED METAL CLASS.

In my years of gaming i have never came acrosd a ranged tank class that can 1 shot.

Gunners and reapers both are for players who cant input any skill on a normal class.

Half the reapers would quit the game if they had to reroll, the other half would go gunner.

yikes.. somebody sucks at warrior..

MiskuChan · April 2017

gib wrote: »

i dont think you understand what i was saying with my post man.

the whole point of a trap is to -trap- your opponent. if they can *see* the trap, then there's no point of it being a "trap". the only way archers dominated with traps is the cq combo stun trap lol. they're a lot like the "traps" they should have. besides, you can see where they put the trap if you pay attention..

if you TAKE AWAY lancer's giga, the class is complete trash. they have no UTILITY in pvp other than 1v1/3v3. the only reason lancer stays relevant in mass is because of giga.

obviously i know that lancers have dominated at the beginning of the game, but at this point they're not that great anymore. and archers are only relevant because of the cq combo. other than that, they're just annoying.

Are you from CH? So you want every skill to be literal right.

I guess you want archer's thunderbolt to be an actual thunderbolt, warrior's scythe to actually change into a scythe, you want eviscerate to actually disembowel and one shot someone and you want reaper's to be the most OP character because they're described as 'god slayers' in the lore.

You don't care about balanced PvP because you want roleplay PvP.

X46Y4P45G9 · April 2017

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[Quote]> @Assassins249 said:
> Says the reaper is the most useless class, son I invite you to play with gunner , At the moment it is the class more neafeada that there is, desync, much cooldown, very slow, little defense in comparison to the lancer or brawler that already they possess an shield OP , Although it is true that the archer kills you of 1 simple combo, the reaper can also kill you 1 combo, because I know? Because my main is reaper, I can kill the one I want without straining, if I catch him with my cable, everything will be finished for him , Tera is currently the worst pvp game ever seen, it does not make sense to talk about balance at these times.[/quote]

No reaper can not, because his stun is crap and does not last long. If you have more than 100ms of ping you will never be able to finish your combo to kill the opponent, unlike the archer with his 5 seconds 200 stuns

Luxrelia · April 2017

Gunners are the weakest class in pvp right now, they die in only 3 combos from other classes and arcane barrage only hits for 70k?!? It doesn't even oneshot, gunner need a damage buff and why can't the bot leash be used during stun to counter op stunlock from other class?!? Sorc oneshot fireblast no skill pew pew 200k crit every time. Lancer and warrior have infinite stunlock until you die while gunner attacks are very slow and don't do any damage. You say reaper is weak or lancer and warrior is weak try to play gunner. No damage and not tanky also no stunlock actually take skill to play.

Sorcerer, archer and warrior are overbuffed?

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