SSHM "Minimum item level of 414."

Meowdita · May 2016

100+ cancer Timescape Hard mode CLEARS, and no vanguard rewards for me because I use +12 archetype staff. Well, fine, towards the end of the patch, I realized I could have an item with higher ilvl in my inventory and the vg reward would show itself once the dungeon is cleared. So I got myself a Worth staff (not even the better one, which was Schisma), rolled for solo dps (vault...). One of the reasons I upgraded my staff to Starfall was for the ilvl boost so that I can get vg reward for FIHM and The Abscess Event because having a higher ilvl gear in your inventory won't prompt you vg reward anymore.

(I heard you could switch to high ilvl gear, select the VG quest to show on your quest tracker, then switch back to your usual gear, clear the dungeon and receive reward... but it hasn't worked for me because the quest magically disappears from my quest tracker for some reason?!)

Now, no vg rewards, limited feedstock supply... go clean baraka rotting corpses and lime deposit for some petty vg credits. Very nice.

Apparently my full lucid slayer is not qualified for rewards either. ilvl 408 vs 409 (Demokron factory, wonderholme, the abscess...). Seriously? Ok, fine, apparently Lucid gear is getting a bit "old" so let me just enchant that Starfall greatsword all the way to +15... suddenly my masterwork alkahest and feedstock supply that I accumulated over time is depleted. On one gear piece. So that I can get VG rewards (which is supposedly nerf? lmao)

msoltyspl wrote: »

Is anyone surprised really ? The point of it is to force you through pointless geargrind - the only "content" BHS is capable of imagining. Removing drops in favor of strictly daily limited VG and now locking those rewards to ILVL is "natural" thing to do in this context.

I am beginning to think we are being delusional and thinking it's just BHS messing up because "they don't play their game"... but in reality it may be deliberately intentional to force us grind and grind... -cough- how long has FIHM been around? -cough- it's probably the shortest-lived hard mode so far -cough-

Banim · May 2016

Still no word on what vanguard request item levels were lowered. Cause the dungeon ones, the ones that mattered in the first place, don't seem to be it.

Nymeriae · May 2016

bzhen0915 wrote: »

This patch, it's SSHM, which requires full +12 Slaughter with updated jewelry. I don't see anything wrong with that item level.

So what do you do when the "updated jewelry" (i guess mix or full Vain/Gate) isn't the best for your class ?
I'd better be in Corvette [crit ear/ring] + Shadowvain [crit ear/ring] + Shadowgate Necklace [crit] rather than full on Shadowvain/gate or a mix Shadowvain/Bloodgate, I'd lose crit rate for my Ninja.
Other choice to really min-max is to grind PvP for crit PvP jewelries, but I don't want to do PvP.
Am I just screwed then ?

Lowering a bit the vanguard quest ilvl requirement wouldn't hurt (I'm even for completely removing it. Players in LFG already filter to fit their need).

bzhen0915 wrote: »

Now, I do agree that the whole VG system of requiring you to meet that item level to receive rewards a bit stupid.

I can enter Wondeholme at 404 ilvl, complete it perfectly fine, but get no vanguard rewards because... reasons ? Same could apply to DF [NM/HM] & SS [NM/HM].
That perfectly fits xthe quote I guess ?

Torchide · May 2016

ALRIGHT GUYS. I HAD 413 ILVL. I'M NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR SSHM RIGHT?

I HAVE RAISED MY ILEVEL TO IMPROVE MY COMBAT ABILITIES

JUST AS INTENDED

wooooo look at that awesome UPGRADE it only cost me ~100 MES to get those rolls and ~35 BES

/salt

[filtered] if you expect me to +12 these

@Treeshark plis fix this

Banim · May 2016

So does anybody have any idea which vgs got their ilvl lowered? Everything looks the same to me.

Catorii · May 2016

Pretty sure all the dungeon ilvls are the same, so I'm not quite sure what they were "lowering." IoD dailies maybe? I haven't done those since before the ninja patch, so dunno if the ilvls are the same as before or not. If it's not either of those, I don't really get what the point of lower ilvl for....what, gathering dailies? is going to do. If they even lowered anything.

Sylviette · May 2016

The ilvl requirement for vanguard were actually lowered, contrary to the patch note. I got sshm vanguard with 413, and WH/DFHM/SSNM... with 402, so I'm assuming it's 1 tier lower now (414 > 409, 409 > 402, 402 > 397....). That included both dungeons and IoD dailies.

Banim · May 2016

Sylviette wrote: »

The ilvl requirement for vanguard were actually lowered, contrary to the patch note. I got sshm vanguard with 413, and WH/DFHM/SSNM... with 402, so I'm assuming it's 1 tier lower now (414 > 409, 409 > 402, 402 > 397....). That included both dungeons and IoD dailies.

If this is the case then I think it'd be better if they just lower the ilvl requirement to something really low so everyone can get the vg, and leave the original ilvl just for instance matching. As for IoD eliminating ilvl completely might go against the design of that content but ultimately I see no big issue in drastically lowering that too and letting people just choose what level BAM they want to kill regardless of gear.

Sylviette · May 2016

If they do that it would totally defeat the purpose of making new sets of gear, since we all know the content were dumbed down a lot for the general playerbase and veteran/skilled players can outright skip all the gear progression. We just need to compromise for a good balance, as long as they don't force us to replace our gear with trash.

Banim · May 2016

hellno wrote: »

I got SSHM vanguard with ilvl 409 so they did lower it. TY EME!

This is good news, I wish they listed the specific changes though, but eh, a good thing is a good thing. Thank you for sharing.

SSHM "Minimum item level of 414."

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