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Berserker Tanking?
I'm really enjoying Berserker playstyle leveling them up and I've ended up kind of half-tanking in several dungeons already due to just hitting extremely hard and being able to block...I'm wondering, is Berserker viable/good as a tank at 65 with their upgraded kit, or should I just stick to one gear set for DPS?
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with enough practice you'd have no problem tanking any content currently in the game, but playing any other tank class would perform better
Ah, that little bit does kind of suck. I'll stick to being an axe murderer then. is there a guide/list/etc anywhere on what I can/can't negate with Axe Block? IE, what I need to actually i-frame vs 'defend' in a DPS context. It's such an unusual skill compared to the other 'block' ones.
Ah, good point. hadn't thought of that. Thank you for the help!
Uh.. you can block what everyone else can block. There are no separate blocking 'mechanics' for a Zerk's block. If it doesn't outright bleed through and kill you, or it's blockable in the first place, then it can be blocked.
Zerk block is significantly weaker than the other blocking classes' blocks.
To answer the OP, it depends on your gear.
Back in the days, hiding behind a lancer or warrior who is blocking allows you to take lesser damage. I think this has nothing to do with the blocking limit of the weapons, but rather the blocking skill itself has this ability to do so.
intimidation mode gave a "buff" amouth to axe block can damage block, but axe block in berseker dont depent from resolve/mana like lancer/warrior block, and intimidation ( berseker tank mode ) debuff powar and crit factor by 30 when you cast
you have a great agroo generation but less damage, because how agroo works now,
find a guild, tank here , learn how agroo works, the job of tank is have agroo all time in dungeons, dont matter how they doing.
Tank stance increases the Berserker's block stat.
But the base blocking for DPSing is still worse. And whether you should block or dodge certain attacks depends on your gear.
There are many drawbacks to a Berserker versus other tanks in terms of what we can and cannot do, for example no forced enrage and out blocks being less damage over all, however these are just the facts on paper, the biggest deciding factor will always be the person playing the Berserker tank.
Let me explain a little, the biggest hurdle when learning tank (at least in my case) is learning the boss patterns and mechanics, a dead tank does nothing, and class doesn't inhibit ones ability to memorize and learn. Secondly skill is something that can't be measured on paper so easily a lancer that is perfect in ever way will outclass a berserker, just as a good zerk tank will easily outclass a brand new lancer.
And the enrage isn't exaclty a huge an issue as everyone makes it out to be, bosses enrage naturally every 10% hp after 90%, if you're a well oiled team the boss will stay enraged 50% of the time naturally, throw in the fact that zerkers still crit incredibly hard on the front for amazing dps and their 'defence stance' constantly generates aggression making them one of the easiest classes to hold aggro on and you have a tank that works... So long as the peraon who's playing them knows what they're doing.
So tl;dr versiom, a tank is only as good as the skill of the person playing, and all tanks at viable in the right hands.
- A zerk tank from MT
yes, im still rememebr trap IM run in Vhnm , brawler gearing Treatening virsk and they dont have any idea from patters ( and +15 dps ambush = = him lose agroo very easy , in argon and duras booses, but in vegel im chooise to change intimidation mode since him refuse change cristals
im able to retain agroo and im dont lose ( im die couple time but, im dont know patters vegel too huehue) only with punishment strike, raze , flatten and fyery rage
the problem is berseker dont have any buff , the only skill they have are the most high agroo generation , low dps like lancer without any buff , and they are slow to atack ( and you are skill charge tank anyways )
for do low , mid tier is enought, im saw very good berseker tanks, but in high tier always player want lancer, cuz buff and fast runs, and berseker tank is example for a good idea ( high agroo generation, shout with perma agroo and low cd, debuff skill ) with poorly designed ( nerft power and crit , you are unique charge skill tank, lack in evasion , more pusnish in mecanics since you cant block them , lack in block , low endurance and low hp base etc.) im tank sometimes with berseker for guild missions or runs with guild ( aka more mid tier ) but im no very good in high tier dungeons with berseker huehue
They're good at keeping aggro at least, but everything else is lackluster. Lacking an enrage means your team doesn't get that initial burn that they would get in a group with literally any other tank, and they're also at a disadvantage during DPS checks since they lack party buffs as well. Generally tanks without party utility tend to make up for it with superb DPS, but zerktank's frontal dps is really not enough to make up for everything else that it lacks. To top it off, you'll still have one of the lowest HP pools in the game coupled with unusually low endurance for a melee class decked out in plate armor, so every time you eat a hit (say, to finish off a second punishing strike, or to squeeze in a thunder strike that *just* finished) it'll hurt quite a bit.
As a former zerktank, I feel pretty bad for the people who still enjoy playing it every time I write about this subject but I can't in good conscience recommend that route to anyone, especially when zerkdps is fantastic and offers so much more and doesn't feel like the devs just forgot about it when brawler came out. Seriously BHS, what the hell? Brawler is basically zerktank on steroids, it even has the same endurance debuff % and the rage motif.
By all means, do what you love. I still play priest even though mystic blows it out of the water at the moment. If you like zerktank, then you'll play it a lot and you'll get good at it and people will either join you or wait for a different tank. Just, know what you're getting into. It is objectively the worst tank in the game right now, by far.
in "Go berseker Pacht " all say game die cuz berseker are the last resort tank huehuehuehu