why zayo is awful and why savvis is better, and why they need to switch back

ElinUsagi · April 2017

jongbae wrote: »

ElinUsagi wrote: »

I would like to see how much the player base is ready to compromise to have more options rather to have only one that will make many ppl with better ping but others with lag issues.

I love how you assume you is "the majority of people" when just by small statistics, probably 90% of this threat is having lag issues and you and like other 2 are "ok"

Then tell me Where are those thousand of ppl you asume are having those issues? Why they don't complain? I only see the like 4 ppl complaining and the thing is that the tittle of this thread is "why zayo is awful and why savvis is better, and why they need to switch back" but no bady ranting in this thread give us evidence about that only ranting and flaming.

Would you give us evidence and that Savvis is better then Zayo or you will let this continue with your flaming and not aporting real evidence to support that Savvis is better then Zayo?

Edit: When I say You I refer to several ppl in this thread that are ranting and flaming on their post since the start of the thread.

Kossploss · April 2017

why complain most of the time the thread gets locked , nothing doing done , no reply from eme , its pointless. If u want ppl complain go on the game , plenty of ppl complaining. Dont expect everyone to come rant on the forum about the lag , everytime this was done in the past there was almost neever a reply from EME. And you keep repeating the same damn thing the whole time.

admonitu · April 2017

I agree with Kossploss. I did a lot of IMS and LFG runs over the last weekend and also after Valks came out and in almost every run, I experience lags and I hear people complaining about lags. I usually run in IMS or LFG for 5-6 hours a day during the prime time on 2 characters. During the runs, everything including my toon would suddenly freeze and can't use any skills, then about 2-3 seconds later, my character would use the skills that I had tried to use several seconds earlier and if that lag occurs during crucial moments (i.e. Lach doing swipe or front slam), my lancer most certainly gets hit by it. Then, after the pause, I look at my pt chat window, and 1-2 people would say something like "Lag..", "f*ing Lag" "sh* server", and everyone would agree. It looks like people experience the lags at the same time. After about 3:00AM EST, it becomes somewhat bearable. If anything, I'd say people that aren't experiencing any lags would be the minority now.

If I called my friends and guildmates to actually come to the forum and complain like I do, I think I should be able to fill this thread with 10-20 extra posts.

ElinUsagi · April 2017

Kossploss wrote: »

why complain most of the time the thread gets locked , nothing doing done , no reply from eme , its pointless. If u want ppl complain go on the game , plenty of ppl complaining. Dont expect everyone to come rant on the forum about the lag , everytime this was done in the past there was almost neever a reply from EME. And you keep repeating the same [filtered] thing the whole time.

The problem most of the ppl didn't even read the thread title "why zayo is awful and why savvis is better, and why they need to switch back"; I am not denying that ppl have lag issues but rather I told the OP that this problem we also had it on Savvis and ask him to prove that Savvis is better for most of the players than Zayo but he and several others have derailing and evade the very heart of the thread.

Now would you mind to answer with logic why:

a) Why Zayo sucks?

b) Why Savvis is better than Zayo?

c) Why EME need to switch back?

It doesn't matter if for you Savvis is better and for me Zayo is better, in the end EME will do the switch back or stay when they get more data about the lags issues, but no one has tried to give real proof or contundent evidence to support those three points.

Kossploss · April 2017

a) Why Zayo sucks? spikes alot

b) Why Savvis is better than Zayo? spikes alot less then zayo

c) Why EME need to switch back? because we didnt have that many lag issues with savvis compared to now

are you happy , now ask me for proof again.

counterpoint · April 2017

Please keep in mind: during the first week after Valkyrie came out, the routing was on Savvis, and there were massive lag problems. During the second week since Valkyrie came out, the routing was on Zayo, and there have still been lag problems, but perhaps (in some cases) different problems. But if you're trying to do a before/after between Savvis and Zayo, at least consider the periods of time during which each were used to see if it really was better for you before or after. Given the timing, I think it's hard to compare. (And, I think there are more issues beyond routing anyway.)

Jinsoyun · April 2017

counterpoint wrote: »

Please keep in mind: during the first week after Valkyrie came out, the routing was on Savvis, and there were massive lag problems. During the second week since Valkyrie came out, the routing was on Zayo, and there have still been lag problems, but perhaps (in some cases) different problems. But if you're trying to do a before/after between Savvis and Zayo, at least consider the periods of time during which each were used to see if it really was better for you before or after. Given the timing, I think it's hard to compare. (And, I think there are more issues beyond routing anyway.)

I described this on page 5, my experiences with the differences that is.

Also, we keep saying Savvis (because they show up in tracerts / ping paths / etc.) but they are actually (owned by / been absorbed by) Century Link.

ElinUsagi · April 2017

Kossploss wrote: »

a) Why Zayo sucks? spikes alot

b) Why Savvis is better than Zayo? spikes alot less then zayo

c) Why EME need to switch back? because we didnt have that many lag issues with savvis compared to now

are you happy , now ask me for proof again.

Well, you end up with personal experience as an answer, nothing that can back your post but your own point of view, for some ppl Zayo is working better and for some ppl Savvis is doing better, but you aren't giving proof but "I said is better and because I say then it must be".

Vorlon · April 2017

A few players here could try switching to a new ISP. When I switch to charter last year prior to spellbound patch, I started experiencing lag spikes, which made playing Tera nearly unplayable. I finally switch back to At&t and my connection became stable again. It wasn't until I switch ISP that I was able to successfully run RMHM and learn the mechanics properly. I had ping spikes that would cause my game to slow down and then speed up rapidly like if you were to press fast forward in a movie or I would dc. Abilities would fire late or I would lag out and get hit by a instant kill ability. Point is different ISP handle things differently and it might be worth while to try another ISP.

Kossploss · April 2017

ElinUsagi wrote: »

Kossploss wrote: »

a) Why Zayo sucks? spikes alot

b) Why Savvis is better than Zayo? spikes alot less then zayo

c) Why EME need to switch back? because we didnt have that many lag issues with savvis compared to now

are you happy , now ask me for proof again.

Well, you end up with personal experience as an answer, nothing that can back your post but your own point of view, for some ppl Zayo is working better and for some ppl Savvis is doing better, but you aren't giving proof but "I said is better and because I say then it must be".

Sure but you keep repeating the same thing , most ppl inguild and around have the issue , and your point back would be ''omg but where are those people' , why dont they come complain on the forums , where nothing gets done anyway lul'

and the same vid from a diff thread , there plenty more to link , go ahead and lmk what you see here

. Im very intrigued

ElinUsagi · April 2017

Kossploss wrote: »

ElinUsagi wrote: »

Kossploss wrote: »

a) Why Zayo sucks? spikes alot

b) Why Savvis is better than Zayo? spikes alot less then zayo

c) Why EME need to switch back? because we didnt have that many lag issues with savvis compared to now

are you happy , now ask me for proof again.

Well, you end up with personal experience as an answer, nothing that can back your post but your own point of view, for some ppl Zayo is working better and for some ppl Savvis is doing better, but you aren't giving proof but "I said is better and because I say then it must be".

Sure but you keep repeating the same thing , most ppl inguild and around have the issue , and your point back would be ''omg but where are those people' , why dont they come complain on the forums , where nothing gets done anyway lul'

and the same vid from a diff thread , there plenty more to link , go ahead and lmk what you see here . Im very intrigued

Nothing of this is proof about the point of the thread it self, we are not arguing about the existance of lag in-game but what choice is better for EME being 2 choices from OP in his tittle, Savvis and Zayo.

Then would you mind at least explain what does that video and your personal opinion matter about a those questions?

Then again you can either make a good answer about:

a) Why Zayo sucks? If you are going to make a personal opinion here then you should say "I think", stating "bacuase spikes a lot" is a random answer without nothing to back it up.

b) Why Savvis is better than Zayo? Then again your answer "becuase it spikes less than Zayo" don't have anything to sustain it, no proof, no charts, nothing at all but a coment that should be "I think" instead.

c) Why EME should switch back? Once again you answer "because we didnt have that many lag issues with savvis compared to now" where "we" can be only a tiny fraction of the total of flayer base so then you have nothing to back it up again your answer, you don't have actual evidence, the videos where you see ppl lagging and dying on HH exist since it came to NA and we have enought material from Savvis and Zayo but then again your answer is an "I think" but no proof to compare Savvis vs Zayo again.

Deluso · April 2017

I'm still remember about this node problem few months ago. Its end up with lots of people quitting Tera because of massive lag.
When Zayo is on, half of overall players experience massive lag. However when EME return to Savvis route, another half of overall players getting lag as well.

ElinUsagi · April 2017

Deluso wrote: »

I'm still remember about this node problem few months ago. Its end up with lots of people quitting Tera because of massive lag.
When Zayo is on, half of overall players experience massive lag. However when EME return to Savvis route, another half of overall players getting lag as well.

Sadly the better action would be split servers and make ppl to migrate to the server that they will have better ping (there are games that show your average ping on a server even before creating a toon). However I don't think ppl would like this becuase guilds and friends would have to split up.

Another problem is that we don't know when Savvis or Zayo are going to have network issues.

Things like this are really annoying for players and EME itself.

Kossploss · April 2017

alright clearly you refuse yo understand or acknowledge anything LOL "lag ingame" this is amazing. All of those freezes spikes startrd with zayo.

why zayo is awful and why savvis is better, and why they need to switch back

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