Warrior/Zerk TANK for levelling dungeons!

Hastrer · April 2017

Well, i was thinking, why they don't give option to CHOSE the tank role as Zerk (warrior i don't remember if you can chose or not, if someone can confirm to me) when Doing levelling Dungeons?
I know, i know, the "tank" skills you only get at end, but why not make all those skills be learned At level 20? Why that?
- First, it would be good for the time queue, People don't play tank (Lancer, Brawler) because they think is boring, so why not give a option to chose a non "meta" tank? Someone who start playing Warrior/Zerk could at least try play tank, and maybe they like.
- Second, all the levelling experience is practically LOST if you are going to play Only as tank at end game, all that time i'm FORCED to play dps, i could use this time (since is levelling dungeons are supposed to TEACH you) to be good at the Tank basics, but instead, all i have "learned" during my level Up have to be forgot because after lvl 65m i have to learn all again but as a tank.
- When you level up as DPS, you got "addicted" by doing some combos, you create a "muscle memory", and at end you have to try to forget that (which is hard to forget)
i know this looks like a personal complaint, but can be a great thing that can help not only new players ( levelling dingens queue) but veteran players because they will encounter less "bad" tank on endgame dungeons.
So, what you guys think about it? Should change? Would make no difference?

StevenAnthony · April 2017

Fruits wrote: »

Warriors can tank leveling dungeons just fine, just Berserkers can't until max level like you said.

Then again, you only need 4 dps and 1 healer to queue up anyways. You don't really learn much leveling anyways so you basically have to relearn everything even with new master glyphs reaching level 65.

And nobody wants Zerker to tank anyways at end-game so there's no point of having a zerker tank leveling dungeons just to get rejected from level 65 dungeons to tank from LFG or getting confused in IMS of saying, "where's the tank?".

TL;DR: Warrior tanking is fine, but isn't represented compared to pure tanking classes such as Lancer/Brawler. Berserker tanking is obsolete due to low tanking kit such as no enraged skill.

nope, still aviable be zerk tank in end game, but end game still are lack of tank, and is a pain tank with berseker in high tier end game dungeons

Hastrer wrote: »

Well, i was thinking, why they don't give option to CHOSE the tank role as Zerk (warrior i don't remember if you can chose or not, if someone can confirm to me) when Doing levelling Dungeons?
I know, i know, the "tank" skills you only get at end, but why not make all those skills be learned At level 20? Why that?
- First, it would be good for the time queue, People don't play tank (Lancer, Brawler) because they think is boring, so why not give a option to chose a non "meta" tank? Someone who start playing Warrior/Zerk could at least try play tank, and maybe they like.
- Second, all the levelling experience is practically LOST if you are going to play Only as tank at end game, all that time i'm FORCED to play dps, i could use this time (since is levelling dungeons are supposed to TEACH you) to be good at the Tank basics, but instead, all i have "learned" during my level Up have to be forgot because after lvl 65m i have to learn all again but as a tank.
- When you level up as DPS, you got "addicted" by doing some combos, you create a "muscle memory", and at end you have to try to forget that (which is hard to forget)
i know this looks like a personal complaint, but can be a great thing that can help not only new players ( levelling dingens queue) but veteran players because they will encounter less "bad" tank on endgame dungeons.
So, what you guys think about it? Should change? Would make no difference?

im have lancer, warrior and bersker, im no main berseker but my first lv 65 character was a berseker ( and im tank in "Go Berseker Pacht " sice 2015, but im no good tank huehuehuehue )

is more easy now tank with warrior when you leveling, but the only true tank is lancer, and warrior are off tank, the only reason why you want be "tank" queuque option in berseker is for leveling more fast ( because in end game you can see what intimidation mode can be do )

Endeva · April 2017

StevenAnthony wrote: »

Fruits wrote: »

Warriors can tank leveling dungeons just fine, just Berserkers can't until max level like you said.

Then again, you only need 4 dps and 1 healer to queue up anyways. You don't really learn much leveling anyways so you basically have to relearn everything even with new master glyphs reaching level 65.

And nobody wants Zerker to tank anyways at end-game so there's no point of having a zerker tank leveling dungeons just to get rejected from level 65 dungeons to tank from LFG or getting confused in IMS of saying, "where's the tank?".

TL;DR: Warrior tanking is fine, but isn't represented compared to pure tanking classes such as Lancer/Brawler. Berserker tanking is obsolete due to low tanking kit such as no enraged skill.

nope, still aviable be zerk tank in end game, but end game still are lack of tank, and is a pain tank with berseker in high tier end game dungeons

Hastrer wrote: »

Well, i was thinking, why they don't give option to CHOSE the tank role as Zerk (warrior i don't remember if you can chose or not, if someone can confirm to me) when Doing levelling Dungeons?
I know, i know, the "tank" skills you only get at end, but why not make all those skills be learned At level 20? Why that?
- First, it would be good for the time queue, People don't play tank (Lancer, Brawler) because they think is boring, so why not give a option to chose a non "meta" tank? Someone who start playing Warrior/Zerk could at least try play tank, and maybe they like.
- Second, all the levelling experience is practically LOST if you are going to play Only as tank at end game, all that time i'm FORCED to play dps, i could use this time (since is levelling dungeons are supposed to TEACH you) to be good at the Tank basics, but instead, all i have "learned" during my level Up have to be forgot because after lvl 65m i have to learn all again but as a tank.
- When you level up as DPS, you got "addicted" by doing some combos, you create a "muscle memory", and at end you have to try to forget that (which is hard to forget)
i know this looks like a personal complaint, but can be a great thing that can help not only new players ( levelling dingens queue) but veteran players because they will encounter less "bad" tank on endgame dungeons.
So, what you guys think about it? Should change? Would make no difference?

im have lancer, warrior and bersker, im no main berseker but my first lv 65 character was a berseker ( and im tank in "Go Berseker Pacht " sice 2015, but im no good tank huehuehuehue )

is more easy now tank with warrior when you leveling, but the only true tank is lancer, and warrior are off tank, the only reason why you want be "tank" queuque option in berseker is for leveling more fast ( because in end game you can see what intimidation mode can be do )

Berserker tanking was a waste of development time, the only thing that makes tanking appealing to everyone is classes like pre-nerf Brawler. Those that love tanking / healing will remain and come back to their favorite roles.

Hastrer · April 2017

StevenAnthony wrote: »

the only reason why you want be "tank" queuque option in berseker is for leveling more fast ( because in end game you can see what intimidation mode can be do )

Nope, My Zerk still at 56 since before Go berserker patch, the reason i "want" is not for me, is for other people to have more option to play the game since the start, like WoW, you can chose 2~3 options if you are playing as Druid, Shaman give you 2~3 roles to chose.
I'm the person who all time says "you don't need DG to level up". People at lvl 65 are not nice to you if you fail to keep aggro, even if your first time doing that.
Think, when Tera come out to Ps4. people will have only 2 options, if they don't like that, they will go to dps/healer or even not play the game, giving 4 options, more people will try = more people playing the game = less post like "queue too long/No tanks/bla bla bla bla" on forum every day. This change is a change that only make things better, will hurt no one. :^)

Edit: i messed up the quote thing. :^)

Hastrer · April 2017

My bad, i messed up the quote thing, sorry

Yamazuki · April 2017

Warrior can tank, Beserker only at 65 but I think that was due to Berserker being one of those things they only partially tried at to try creating more tanks before they released Brawler, over buffed Lancer and recently the Warrior changes+buffs. A lot of balance changes Berserker gets you will see they forget Berserker tank exists since some changes negatively impact it. I also don't think I've ever read a post form BHS acknowledging Berserker tank either, I only ever saw the dps portion talked about.

Baldurdash · April 2017

I tanked when I began my zerk. It's not hard when you wear a threatening with your relic weapon but zerk tank at 65 relies on different strategy to use punishing strike and axe counters to keep aggro with the occasional thunderstrike to output damage

StevenAnthony · April 2017

Baldurdash wrote: »

I tanked when I began my zerk. It's not hard when you wear a threatening with your relic weapon but zerk tank at 65 relies on different strategy to use punishing strike and axe counters to keep aggro with the occasional thunderstrike to output damage

zerk tank have great agroo generation, but intimidation mode debuff/nerf damage to monsta (-30 powa and -30 critfactor) and no buffed like a revamp warrior d - stance ( +15% chance to crit in pve ),and berseker dont have real autoblock skill, this means berseker can be hold agroo, but do low damage vs casual mindless Brawler.

BHs need buff zerk tank or quit intimidation mode, because people still cry why zerk tank dont have a 3 minutes skill.

Endeva · April 2017

Hastrer wrote: »

StevenAnthony wrote: »

the only reason why you want be "tank" queuque option in berseker is for leveling more fast ( because in end game you can see what intimidation mode can be do )

Nope, My Zerk still at 56 since before Go berserker patch, the reason i "want" is not for me, is for other people to have more option to play the game since the start, like WoW, you can chose 2~3 options if you are playing as Druid, Shaman give you 2~3 roles to chose.
I'm the person who all time says "you don't need DG to level up". People at lvl 65 are not nice to you if you fail to keep aggro, even if your first time doing that.
Think, when Tera come out to Ps4. people will have only 2 options, if they don't like that, they will go to dps/healer or even not play the game, giving 4 options, more people will try = more people playing the game = less post like "queue too long/No tanks/bla bla bla bla" on forum every day. This change is a change that only make things better, will hurt no one. :^)

Edit: i messed up the quote thing. :^)

Making changes for people is a nice gesture but...

Tera already has plenty of unique options for tank classes to level up:
Lancer - traditional tank
Warrior - DPS with tank stance
Brawler - DPS tank

Good intentions does not necessarily make good changes.

Killbunny · April 2017

The Intimidation crit debuff (-30 crit factor) does have a very negative on Zerk tanking, power is not that big of a deal (Imo) because you can keep the Block 20% power increase glyph up almost 100% uptime.
If just Bloodlust enrage, and flatten autoblock while in Intimidation... And the penalization of crit wasn't that huge... But cleary BHS has never thought about that.

Warrior/Zerk TANK for levelling dungeons!

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