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Why are you leaving it here? DPS meters are not issued by BHS/EME to measure your ability to complete said fight. The TEST equivalent here is can you complete the fight if the answer is yes you're good if not GIT GUD.
There's also the fact most standard tests are for individuals, dps is impacted by your group and isn't a measurement of individual skill. Solo content would be more accurate for that if there was any that weren't just 1 shot bosses/bams.
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You can still get a great idea of how someone or your own dps is by comparing yourself to people in your own group and consistently over time. Also there have been so many 1000s of runs in the current dungeons so you can actually get an accurate average and high end for these dungeons.
Meters are not being used to compare within the group by those complaining. If you want to be competitive as a group go for clear speed, high personal dps runs have historically been slower than when the group is more focused on clearing faster.
Do you have a source for this bold claim because that's been completely counter to what I have encountered in game. Not sure why you guys keep insisting you can't maximize dps while still surviving and avoiding mechanics. I am going to go out on a limb and say you have never done a slaying run where if you play properly you do amazing damage and take zero damage. And every group I have been in when I go for maximizing my dps the group as a whole does better because I am able to put the groups dps even higher.
So historically nothing.
There's a certain site these people like using, the fastest clears for RMHM do not have the highest personal dps in the same run. The fastest clear does happen to have someone who has the highest dps for the class, but the run where he got the highest dps with his class is significantly slower than his fastest clear time with significantly lower dps.
That paragraph makes no sense in at all 1st of all second of all you don't have to have your max dps each run to be successful but you can be within a certain range and be fine and still be a great player. You can even set a bar and know in this type group I should be able to pull X and in this type group I should be able to pull y. That's the beauty of Data is it gives you more information and more information is always better. You have also failed to make any point of value here because you honestly said nothing.
Here is a great example I run with my valkyrie alt that alt unlike my main is just in guile with crappy rolls on rings. I ran with a guildie in the same gear playing from the US and we were both doing dungeons for most of the day. By the end of the day we looked at our data and he saw that no matter the fight no matter the instance I would out dps him by a significant margin. We started talking and realized that there was something in my rotation that was making me do more dps he adjusted it and guess what he and I were pretty much neck and neck. And since we are both warrior mains and both of equal skill it was a great tool.
Knowledge is power and more knowledge has never been detrimental to anyone at any point in time in the great history of our world.
I am more curious how a poster like that made the player council when they can't even make a cogent argument for against the simplest of arguments. The one guy Counterpoint it makes sense the guy has a side and defends it and while I don't agree with it always I understand it and it makes sense. This guy I am not even sure he knows what he is saying half the time.
Are you trying to bait me into naming that site so I get banned from this forum because that what is sounds like you are trying to do. You also did not disprove anything I said but continued on your own path of thought without even attempting to defend everything I used to discount everything you said. You keep going on this 1 solitary number as your dps. Like well one time I did 4mill dps in a solo run then did 3.8million dps in a group run like that somehow proves your non existent point. DPS is not a solitary number it has never been a solitary number but you stick to this one point because you know if you move away from it you don't have anything to stand on.
btw the site rhymes with dune board.
To be honest the fact that someone who makes incoherent arguments with no facts and so full of fallacies makes the player council just further proves my thought that this forum is worthless and the CMs are worthless. Keep up that babble and maybe one day you will be able to actually have a real discussion.
If you have nothing to say about clear speed vs personal dps or an entirely different source that somehow hows otherwise, I think it means we're done here. Have a good day
Ha you are actually a 100% right. I got a few pms from people telling me to do the same so I will head and just add them to the ignore list.