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Less Lag Confirmed

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  • Don't start baiting again about weird stuff lol and join me in frawyind canyon right now im already there as Maelparagon 3 matches completed already, all of them fluid the lag decrease is a real fact that is what's the thread about to inform firsthand of your real experience and test ingame
    Don't feel forced to lie about the results cause that is pointless since we all gonna see ourselves on the battlefield,
    You gotta notice the change cause me and many others do , If you were static too much time relog cause we do not iddle like in some chat sites but it is true that If you leave your char too many time inactive the ping may increase, but this happens in all games I play , must have a tech reason but it is very common just relog.
  • Lusbelle wrote: »

    -something-

    Your attemps to hide your condescending tone is downright pathetic, but I'll humour you for a tiny bit, since your brain seems to be too small to fit any substantial intellect, I'll try to put this as clear as possible for you.
    Lusbelle wrote: »

    It's a petty thing—in my opinion, when it has no real impact in life; a digital game where achievements are completely intangible and teaches nothing important to your development as a person intellectually.

    This is just a small showcase in massive gaps you leave in your logic. You start by affirming it's a petty thing, but then you correct by saying 'but no, wait, it's just my opinion'. And then you keep going as if what you're saying is the absolute truth, which, may sound surprising to you, it's not.

    You fail to understand fundamental things like, for example, how each person weights stuff different, how each person cares about something that is valuable for them, how 'value' and 'worth' are a subjective thing, how personal satisfaction is a huge point of motivation that will drive people forward.

    Saying only 'tangible' achievements are relevant and that 'playing a digital game' doesn't teach you anything important to your development is just fruit of your schizophrenic mind, it has nothing to do with the reality everyone else lives in. Saying that only 'tangible' things are of any value and should be cared about is one of the most ridiculous things I ever read.

    Also about the last part, you're basically saying 'If what you're doing doesn't 'teach' you anything, it isn't worth' which, again, is so detached to reality I'm not even gonna bother.

    Hmm, it seems making an argument without retorting to insults is a very hard thing to do nowadays, but rest assured, I'm not going to do the same as you and insult you, as I think even the lowest worker deserves as much respect as an empress.

    In order to address your issues in a readable and coherent way, I shall list them numerically in direct correspondence with your paragraph order:

    1. I don't see how I'm stating any truths, as I've never used such word. I made a very clear clarification about my rationale when I said "in my opinion". I never said "I come here to state some universal truths, and anyone who opposes it is wrong". You should stop making hastened conclusions if you are unable to read and analyse the premises rationally beforehand.

    2. That is correct, I do not question that, but objectively, a game has nothing really relevant to offer to humanity that shall serve to progress; a game doesn't drive science—as example only, not limited to it—forward, does not make people learn anything relevant to development of intellect or physical health.

    3. And I stand by that, defeating X boss or having a new laurel is irrelevant for anything outside my psyche, serves no purpose aside of self-fulfilment, if anything, shows how weak the psyche of someone is if such ephemeral endeavour has so much weight on someone's self esteem and sense of fulfilment. It might feel good, but that doesn't mean it's not considerably less relevant than winning a Nobel prize. In a strict sense, yeah, your in-game "achievements" are completely irrelevant in life.

    4. I would love you to elaborate your rationale.

    PS.: You may want to research the characteristics of a schizophrenic patient so you can use the word more appropriately.
  • KnightFalzKnightFalz ✭✭✭
    I mean, that's typical from City of Heroes fandom. They like to compare every community to what CoH used to be. City of Heroes had unique circumstances going for it, and the playerbase didn't have to go through a publisher to talk to a deaf developer. In a lot of sense the playerbase and the developers worked together to create the best experience possible, on top of the game itself having excellent systems to support it's theme.

    That relation between developer and playerbase is what people strive for here, but since the developer is completely deaf and the publisher has big issues communication with the playerbase, leads to things like this. This is the biggest problem, this is the main issue going on right now.

    About how much important people put on stuff, that is irrelevant. What does it matter if someone puts a lot of relevance on this. They work/study/pay their bills, it's their right to care how much they want about anything they desire as long isn't bothering others, I don't even see how is this even a point of discussion, should be matter of fact.

    You are quite correct that the players of CoH and Paragon Studios had an excellent relationship that I haven't seen quite duplicated since then. It seems from my experiences after that it was by far the exception rather than the rule. I doubt it is something that can achieved by the trying for it. I think a relationship like that will either develop naturally, or not (the most likely scenario).

    The importance people place on things is of central relevance, as it affects how people react to issues related to those things. It is certainly the right of people to care about things to the degree they wish to. They can even let those things become so important that it clouds their judgment on issues related to them, should they desire.

    It matters because passion to that degree can just as easily get in the way of player relations with the developer as it can contribute to them. Passion is a powerful force, but without proper perspective a potentially dangerous one.
  • LusbelleLusbelle
    edited May 2017
    Lusbelle wrote: »

    -something-

    Your attemps to hide your condescending tone is downright pathetic, but I'll humour you for a tiny bit, since your brain seems to be too small to fit any substantial intellect, I'll try to put this as clear as possible for you.
    Lusbelle wrote: »

    It's a petty thing—in my opinion, when it has no real impact in life; a digital game where achievements are completely intangible and teaches nothing important to your development as a person intellectually.

    This is just a small showcase in massive gaps you leave in your logic. You start by affirming it's a petty thing, but then you correct by saying 'but no, wait, it's just my opinion'. And then you keep going as if what you're saying is the absolute truth, which, may sound surprising to you, it's not.

    You fail to understand fundamental things like, for example, how each person weights stuff different, how each person cares about something that is valuable for them, how 'value' and 'worth' are a subjective thing, how personal satisfaction is a huge point of motivation that will drive people forward.

    Saying only 'tangible' achievements are relevant and that 'playing a digital game' doesn't teach you anything important to your development is just fruit of your schizophrenic mind, it has nothing to do with the reality everyone else lives in. Saying that only 'tangible' things are of any value and should be cared about is one of the most ridiculous things I ever read.

    Also about the last part, you're basically saying 'If what you're doing doesn't 'teach' you anything, it isn't worth' which, again, is so detached to reality I'm not even gonna bother.

    Hmm, it seems having a good conversation without retorting to insults is a rare occurrence nowadays. Do not worry though, I shan't insult you, as I think from the lowest worker to the empress respect is needed.

    In order to address your issues in a coherent and organised way, I shall list my replies numerically in concordance with your paragraph order:

    1. I never stated nor tried to state truths, as I made a very definite clarification where I said it was my opinion. I never came here saying "I'm here to state some absolute truths, and everyone who contradicts them is wrong". I would be very happy if you avoided putting words in my mouth.

    2. I understand that and I agree with that, but I'm talking about it using a broader view; no matter how much weight and in-game "achievement" has to me, in the larger scope, it has no importance or impact to the practical and relevant development of humanity. If anything it only shows a concerning view about an individual's psyche and self-esteem if such meaningless endeavour has so much weight in its life. Getting a laurel or defeating Vergos is in no way relevant compared to getting a Nobel prize.

    3. It isn't relevant to humanity nor helps to solve any important issue, it doesn't fuel thoughts to make new paradigms or theories; it's a game only, and a very easy one on that.

    4. I would love you to elaborate your rationale.

    PS.: You should investigate the characteristics of a schizophrenic patient, so you don't use the term incorrectly in the future.

  • CatoriiCatorii ✭✭✭
    https://originalyosha.tumblr.com/post/160213304013/ktera-has-been-suffering-from-server-instability#

    KTERA gets server instability for less than a week, gets free elite, appearance change vouchers, some sort of event tokens.

    NA has server instability for 6-8 months now, and we get...nothing.

    K, EME.
  • HysphericalHyspherical ✭✭✭
    Well, some people are boycotting so yea ping has gone down slightly. We're still getting lag spikes though.
  • Ok, this thread was TL:DR, but am I to understand that the lag got better after the hackers were banned? So was the hacking really affecting playability?
  • seraphinushseraphinush ✭✭✭✭
    Ok, this thread was TL:DR, but am I to understand that the lag got better after the hackers were banned? So was the hacking really affecting playability?
    There are accounts where some people say it is, while others say it isn't, which just tells me it was just a coincidence. the game is the same i believe.
  • The so called hackers been banned a week ago tho, the fact that less players are playing and the server "not lagging" anymore may be the cause, i still lag like an idiot but well, some ppl might confuse their internet with tera connection, im not a person who usually lags on tera i have a really good internet, i been lagging since valkyrie patch, which just makes me think that it was the big amount of players, and again since now there is not many players there is less lag. That's my point of view and what iv been seeing.
  • canikizucanikizu ✭✭✭
    Ok, this thread was TL:DR, but am I to understand that the lag got better after the hackers were banned? So was the hacking really affecting playability?

    No, not really. Server got stable a bit because it doesnt overload because of lower population, it has nothing to do with "hacking",

    If anything, the so-called "hacking" actually reduces server stress, if people actually spend time to read how it works.
  • TeajTeaj ✭✭
    canikizu wrote: »
    Ok, this thread was TL:DR, but am I to understand that the lag got better after the hackers were banned? So was the hacking really affecting playability?

    No, not really. Server got stable a bit because it doesnt overload because of lower population, it has nothing to do with "hacking",

    If anything, the so-called "hacking" actually reduces server stress, if people actually spend time to read how it works.

    People are ignorants anyways, they 'll keep using the same arguments without trying to find more informatios to educate themselves...
    sad isnt it?
    Well, welcome to the new gamer community.
  • Ok, this thread was TL:DR, but am I to understand that the lag got better after the hackers were banned? So was the hacking really affecting playability?

    Exactly that is indeed the answer , Yes they were affecting playability badly ,serveres stability, unfair scenarios during combats and providing lag all over the place, So that is basically what i've been testing these days
    -No lag during fierce encounters 15 vs 15 gridiron and fraywind tested ,
    -No desync, (you hit and when your blow hits the target was already gone) everyone stays at their place since thers much less performace of skills that shouldn't occur.
    -Less One shooting and pentakills , less immortals, players that were very hard or impossible to take down .
    -Fair Matches , now even you fail at first meeting with the rivals you can still win, before was almost impossible because the ''immortails'' would cause a massive amount of AFKs and frustration from the very start, just in 20 seconds you could know how the match would end so people just would go afk wich was sad mow, there's less afks.
    -Improved balancing and proper equalization, now you can Kick As and show your true skill with your class, you couldn't before in most cases was a lost cause you could try and try again but nah ot was a waste of time they touch you, youa re dead.
    So that's the meaning of this thread though some people insisit in pointing in anotother direction such as some dungeon different issues that has nothing to do or their personal wars wich I don't really care much I thought was interesting to make a thread , a serious one with tested data and info gathered by myself and other server mates on the battllefied wich is the place where we can't lie about, everyone can notice the big improvement.
    This is applied to dungeons as well of course but is more noticeable during battlegrounds due the amount of players displayed at same time , a dungeon of five even you could detect that their performance was maybe too fast and repetitive some wouldnt even notice at all but if you are familiar with the classes they were easily spotted
    Im slayer brawler ninja valkirie sorcerer berserker so im aware of every skill and cooldows , to me was easy to know hmm the everful nostrum doesn't allow you to do that lol and that wasn't all
    They weren't ashamed to boast in the spotlight about their dps or even insult other players stating that their dps was low or don't know how to use their classes causing confussion or discouragment among players.
  • HysphericalHyspherical ✭✭✭
    edited May 2017
    Ok, this thread was TL:DR, but am I to understand that the lag got better after the hackers were banned? So was the hacking really affecting playability?

    No. It's just as awful as it's always been. The banning didn't help the lag itself.

    @MaelSlayer - Stop straight-up lying please.
  • I don't have any reason to lie lol , it is how it is you cannot counter the truth mate so calling me liar won't change the fact that the lag and the playability has improved massively thanks the recent events, Im not aware of the bans but im aware of the fear of getting banned and the outcome is the very same a radical decrease of the use of you know what, not because I say so all you have to do is test it yourself during battlegrounds, duels etc.
    So If you do not notice any change nor are familar with anything of what i exposed in the post above you then you'll give me no choice but to think you do not intend to discuss this from a fair and honest point of view, tbh it doesn't really matter me and the rest of the decent active players who actually run things and play tera wich are the a big part of the tera population are happy withe the results,
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