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Player Council B4 Final Decisionz
Aight Imma be blunt, keeping in 100
In game and on forum current Player Council IS seen as a joke OK. Maybe not all, but the active ones sure as hell are. You cannot SHOULD not deny this whether you personally disagree or not. What matters is the overall public opinion and that is they are useless. You've seen the rebuttals, memes, facepalms, whiteknights.....a joke. Now ask yourselves why that is the case? Well allow me to point the obvious or lets say the elephant in the room:
-spreads misinformation CONSTANTLY- most recently "proxy not affect experience of high ping players" no seriously
-makes statements such as " EME doesn't need Tera" joke or not
-whiteknights to the point of stupidity aka disagreeing with the community they are suppose to represent....
-at least one player council member is banned lol?
Like what criteria do you use to select them? Post count? Eeny, meeny, miny, moe? Time for a reset button drain the swamp please their term is over. At the very least since you can't interview each candidate face-to-face look beyond what they do on the forumns and see what they are like in-game:
-are they exp in all HM (not all current player council members are, yet they like to give advice :facepalm:)
-are they well liked in the community?
-what have they done in Tera besides shitposting to earn the title Player Council?
-are they a guild leader, host community events, make guides, positive image, etc.
The term Player Council should mean something and be a position of prestige and respect. I most definitely do NOT see the appropriate behavior that should be associated with that title and mind boggling you EME time and time again allow them to get away with their BS. If they constantly spread false truths kick em out. If they constantly make disparaging remarks kick em out. If they are not well liked by the community no brainier kick em the hell out. They do not represent us and theoretically if you wanted a player council that did, would allow the community to vote. You'd be surprised if given the opportunity. That's what you do in the real world rest my case pick the right people for the job this time and no more jokers (and then there is Trump). Case in point, if not even one current player council member could offer assistance with the recent fiasco, he or she is not heavily involved with the community period. Moreover, judging from the posts I know for a fact at least 2 player council members didn't know jack yet still posted fallible statements passing them off as facts. That is a [filtered] problem that a Player Council member should not be doing OK nor should you even condone if you want the community to take em seriously.
At the very least make sure the new Player Council members are like Ivanka.
In game and on forum current Player Council IS seen as a joke OK. Maybe not all, but the active ones sure as hell are. You cannot SHOULD not deny this whether you personally disagree or not. What matters is the overall public opinion and that is they are useless. You've seen the rebuttals, memes, facepalms, whiteknights.....a joke. Now ask yourselves why that is the case? Well allow me to point the obvious or lets say the elephant in the room:
-spreads misinformation CONSTANTLY- most recently "proxy not affect experience of high ping players" no seriously
-makes statements such as " EME doesn't need Tera" joke or not
-whiteknights to the point of stupidity aka disagreeing with the community they are suppose to represent....
-at least one player council member is banned lol?
Like what criteria do you use to select them? Post count? Eeny, meeny, miny, moe? Time for a reset button drain the swamp please their term is over. At the very least since you can't interview each candidate face-to-face look beyond what they do on the forumns and see what they are like in-game:
-are they exp in all HM (not all current player council members are, yet they like to give advice :facepalm:)
-are they well liked in the community?
-what have they done in Tera besides shitposting to earn the title Player Council?
-are they a guild leader, host community events, make guides, positive image, etc.
The term Player Council should mean something and be a position of prestige and respect. I most definitely do NOT see the appropriate behavior that should be associated with that title and mind boggling you EME time and time again allow them to get away with their BS. If they constantly spread false truths kick em out. If they constantly make disparaging remarks kick em out. If they are not well liked by the community no brainier kick em the hell out. They do not represent us and theoretically if you wanted a player council that did, would allow the community to vote. You'd be surprised if given the opportunity. That's what you do in the real world rest my case pick the right people for the job this time and no more jokers (and then there is Trump). Case in point, if not even one current player council member could offer assistance with the recent fiasco, he or she is not heavily involved with the community period. Moreover, judging from the posts I know for a fact at least 2 player council members didn't know jack yet still posted fallible statements passing them off as facts. That is a [filtered] problem that a Player Council member should not be doing OK nor should you even condone if you want the community to take em seriously.
At the very least make sure the new Player Council members are like Ivanka.
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And the rest of the members you were thinking about are actually not from the Player Council... lol.
While no they are not voted in by the community, they are a part of it and available. If you have an issue or opinion or idea that you would like to get brought up to EME, I'd suggest seeking out one of the members and talking to them. It's unreasonable to expect them to hear every idea or issue if we as a community don't bring it to them ourselves.
Looking back on the previous application post, we probably won't have an answer on who was accepted until July of this year. It's best just to sit tight and hope for the best, my friend.
now I'll "join the stupid white knights" and just say that... Bud you expect people to agree with you always? Wrong forum/game/country/planet/galaxy/universe. They're player council, not player's slaves. They're not players b!tches babe, they're there to represent the player base WITH THEIR OWN VIEW OF THE ISSUE.
Sorry they're not here to serve you in specific, and yes there's many people outside the player council that agree with the player council players as well. They're players like any other else that took the time and effort to fill an application formulary, and then got accepted cause they not toxic and crap like that.
Did you try to fill in that?
"disagreeing with the community", when the community is flaming each other and b!tching like mad for not being able to use stuff THEY NEVER WERE ALLOWED TO, there's no way you could just stand for this community.
Do NOT forget: your opinion. You do NOT speak for everyone. Neither does player council for that matter.
They player council had a total of 16 players:
However, some of these players moved on from their role, which leaves them down to 10 player council members. (Corrected)
Not as far as the forum avatar icon goes.
im sad now :c
This whole thread is blatant flamebait and personal attacks against a group of people who, on the whole, have tried pretty damn hard to represent the voice of the community, and to elevate all relevant issues and on all the major pain points. But people act like this group is supposed to have miraculous powers, or that somehow just by raising concerns with EME they're magically going to do whatever we say. Spoiler: they do not. Player Council is not a decision-making group, it's just an advisory group if and when EME chooses to ask and/or listen. And, another spoiler: not everyone has the same opinions on everything either, and there have been many debates on many contentious issues with different points of view -- just as you get in every community (and as you see on the forum).
Some people have unreasonable expectations about the sort of conversation that is possible with EME about certain issues, perhaps because they assume there would be consultation on everything when there really isn't. And some people assume that EME would even be open to conversations about certain issues that are completely cut-and-dry to them, no matter what the community thinks. And some people just like to pass the blame down, as if things wouldn't have happened this way if the player council had done something different. There's no evidence to support that at all.
At the end of the day, I signed up for this job not to win a popularity contest, but because I care about the game and its community, and I want to try to make sure EME gets feedback from the forum elevated to them. I've done my part to elevate everything I can, and emphasize the important issues as much as possible -- whether you see it or not. It hasn't saved the game or solved all the problems, because I can't do that. All I can do is inform. Just because you may not like my personal opinions on some things doesn't mean I'm not doing my job to understand and elevate the community's concerns. When you see me arguing in threads, a lot of the time it's because I'm trying to really understand the issues so that I can present a winnable argument, because if you can't convince me, I probably won't be able to convince them (since I have some experience in knowing how businesses think).
But anyway... if you really think berating everyone on the council and shaming EME is going to make them choose people with your attitudes and points of view, I can tell you it won't work. It should be incredibly obvious why this won't work, but the community is like this all the time. I always try to see if there are nuggets of worth I can elevate to EME, and my conclusion about this thread is this: the community's expectations for Player Council are amazingly out of alignment with what EME actually uses it for, and as a result the Player Council gets a ton of [filtered] for things they never had any ability to influence at all. And unless EME addresses that problem, I feel sorry for whoever gets invited, because they'll do nothing but be judged, condemned, and spit upon whenever certain people need someone to blame. Say what you want about me, but these people don't deserve your condemnation or misplaced EME anger; they did what they could within the scope they were able to work in.
Counterpoint is still on the player council.
For OP, I dont know about the rest of the council but I do run HM dungeons. These are my clears for priest. I skipped a few weeks for finals and was on a different server for a bit so my HH clears are a little low. I dont run RMHM anymore unless someone needs mats. It's boring. :c