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Is it possible that we don't get the changes to BC/Ks credits and BG store?

Before I get to the topic, reason I brought this is PVP currently is in a bad shape already, BHS is not doing anything to revive it. and pretty much sure EME sent feedback about unequalized BGs ages ago. And also just jackpots are not reviving PVP, so EME please focus on this matter a bit more.

Anyway, I don't think those new changes gonna do much good, what you people think?

I put this in here, because BG is something that most people do and it is a general thing on NA and bringing it down can't hurt the game badly.

Also EME, please keep weekend jackpots like the one we have and rotate it each weekend, and do the things you can doto revive PVP. Even many pvers on some levels get to do PVP time to time and pvpers get to do pve, for different experience. So it will really help the whole community.
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  • MagichanMagichan ✭✭✭
    Short answer: No.

    Long answer: Well, several things actually.

    1) Victory Boxes imo aren't inherently worse than BC/KS credit system. You have a chance at a material you need every time you win, you get equal reward even if you didn't KDA tryhard the whole match, and most importantly there's no more weekly cap. These are positive changes.

    2) The lack of unequalized battlegrounds likely has more to do with the lack of dedicated PvP gear from this point forward. Conflate worked as a way to balance VM players in Fraywind, but this option is going away. BHS seems to be in the mindset that PvP gear is a) Too much work; and b) is inconvenient to players who have to earn and enchant/roll/dyad multiple sets of gear, which is inefficient. Of course they could just wrap PvP stats onto other non-VM sets, but let's not expect common sense from BHS.

    3) EME is kinda limited as far as jackpots go. Not wanting to "break the economy" with Diamonds, they've decided to stick with mostly character-bound items aside from Feedstock. What other incentives would you like to see?

    4) Rotating full-weekend Jackpots? Considering GameForge couldn't find a way to double both Victory Boxes *and* the letters of encouragement, I'm willing to bet Jackpots are how EME would use incentives in the future rather than just double boxes. Just my guess.

    5) Anything nice PvP players get will upset many PvE'ers. Careful things aren't too balanced or you'll see whining threads on these forums.

    6) We couldn't even keep low-level Outlaw, with the reason given being "merging builds." I doubt they'll let us keep something like the Credit System (which, again, I'm not convinced is any better than the new one we're getting).
  • GrievuuzGrievuuz ✭✭✭
    Magichan wrote: »
    you get equal reward even if you didn't KDA tryhard the whole match.

    I can bust that right now. Top 3 KDA heroes get more boxes than the rest of the winning team.
  • KarmaTheAlligatorKarmaTheAlligator ✭✭✭✭✭
    Grievuuz wrote: »
    Magichan wrote: »
    you get equal reward even if you didn't KDA tryhard the whole match.

    I can bust that right now. Top 3 KDA heroes get more boxes than the rest of the winning team.

    Wasn't that changed later to accommodate that healers would never get top 3?
  • MagichanMagichan ✭✭✭
    > I can bust that right now. Top 3 KDA heroes get more boxes than the rest of the winning team.

    That was fixed shortly after. I doubt we'll see it in our version.
  • Alec13Alec13 ✭✭
    In tera EU patch notes on Battlegrounds section there is pdf file with Contents of Victory Chests:

    https://en.tera.gameforge.com/news/detail/patch-notes-55-03-velikas-secrets

    I think BG is worth doing since the reward boxes will have chance to give you VM 9 mats I mean what more do you want
  • LYC14LYC14 ✭✭✭
    The problem is how to farm the next patch version of the resizing kits when they are not available to be purchased using PvP credits.
  • Alec13Alec13 ✭✭
    resizing kit will drop in dungeons but I do not think you can use them on new sets of jewelry
  • clfarron4clfarron4 ✭✭✭✭
    LYC14 wrote: »
    The problem is how to farm the next patch version of the resizing kits when they are not available to be purchased using PvP credits.

    Resizing Kits for the VM9 Jewellery will drop with the return of Harrowhold.

    Resizing Kits for VM8 drop at the publisher's discretion.
  • LYC14LYC14 ✭✭✭
    May I ask where will the vm9 patch resizing kits drop from? And they cannot be farmed
    with any currency anymore right?
  • Alec13Alec13 ✭✭
    LYC14 wrote: »
    May I ask where will the vm9 patch resizing kits drop from? And they cannot be farmed
    with any currency anymore right?

    I think post above did answer your question
  • clfarron4clfarron4 ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2017
    LYC14 wrote: »
    May I ask where will the vm9 patch resizing kits drop from? And they cannot be farmed
    with any currency anymore right?

    You can't earn BC/KS from next patch, but you can spend what you earned.

    Since it's with the Harrowhold Patch, most probably Harrowhold.

    3-rd Party Sources.

    #inb4bannedcos3rdpartysources
  • LYC14LYC14 ✭✭✭
    Harrowhold only? That would suck so bad, and I thought they could drop in specific dungeons or in some other means....
  • LesbianViLesbianVi ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Alec13 tnx for the link.

    Oh boy, so Bonanza box will be removed? I die getting SES and Spellbind for my alts w/o them. Rawr
  • ElinLoveElinLove ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can see it as positive, depending on what these boxes give. Also remember how you can buy crystals with Killing Spree: I would hope some kind of token drops from these boxes as well or you get that separately for being on winning team on BG or the likes, it would be annoying to lose the chance to buy your crystals or chose what you want from a store.

    Completely random drops from a box just won't do, sometimes you could end up with TONS of unused stuff, like I did with VM materials when I just wanted enchant materials.

    Until I see how these boxes work I'll not say I like it or not, I have mixed feelings about the situation as of now, the cons are above, and the pros would be that usually low rewarding tasks like kiting mama and ladder guards in CS, or healers, would get the same drops, as they deserve. In other hand plain bots who sit on the BG waiting to get carried will also get as much as top player? Not fair at all in this regard.
  • feminziifeminzii ✭✭✭
    cuz people seem to be under this impression that making BG's worth people's time by increasing the rewards is going to make PvP in this game healthy and active, when it's not. Until at least some of the fundamental issues with PvP in this game (like desync and blablabla) get fixed, no one is going to want to play these aids BG's. They just giving power hours and double rewards and etc and all it does is make skilled pvpers flame because theres a bunch of shitters in the queues, which only fuels people's hatred of pvp even more
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