Make Fwc back unequalized!

MiskuChan · May 2017

GlitchyTrash wrote: »

I'm not saying ignorant things at all. It's an MMO, where typically you do content to improve your character's gear. Why should PvP be different?

As seen with the vm7 patch, gear has nothing to do with whether or not battlegrounds pop, it's the rewards that dictate those.

The 'but it's an MMO deal with it!' argument is a dead meme, both gw2 and wow have bgs that are equalised or close to it, in gw2 for instance you can start PvPing from level level 5 with max gear, why? Because most players agree that PvP should be a reflection on skill not your mommys credit card or how much you can no life for gear. That's what makes it meaningful.

But I guess that argument is lost on someone who thinks rolling some undergeared players with +15 makes them a pro player.

I mean even EME agrees since all the skyring and fraywind tournaments were equalised

9LWPWJK9D9 · May 2017

Koikoi wrote: »

MiskuChan wrote: »

GlitchyTrash wrote: »

all PvE should be equalized, only that way skills matter

fighting AI is not the same as fighting other people, I feel like you're saying ignorant things on purpose..

I agree competitive PvP needs to reflect skills, imagine if skyring slam let +12 players fight +15 it's a joke and the gear creep already killed PvP.

I remember the day +15 came out, fraywind and skyring had been popping for weeks before that because they had released some gear (I thnk it was ambit) that was easy to +12. But in less than a week after +15 almost 0 players were Qing and it never recovered apart from power hours. Never recovered not once, even to this day outside of power hours.

Unequalised already killed PvP, learn from the past.

I'm not sure where you have been but for the entire starfall/imperator patch FWC was popping CONSTANTLY all times of the day/night.

this is definitely [filtered] lmao, one of the reason i quit was because bg like fwc didnt pop anywhere near the word constantly.

9LWPWJK9D9 · May 2017

GlitchyTrash wrote: »

all PvE should be equalized, only that way skills matter

you are welcome to try and make this change

GlitchyTrash · May 2017

I don't actually want that change. I rather both aspects need more than just the character creation screen. And you can say I like killing people with no gear but all of my current pvping consists of team 3s. And actually I fight mostly people in behemoth and I'm in ambush so..... Anyways.

And fwc popped all of vm7 patch. If you quit then how would you know otherwise?

MiskuChan · May 2017

I may as well be talking to a wall.

Koikoi · May 2017

9LWPWJK9D9 wrote: »

Koikoi wrote: »

MiskuChan wrote: »

GlitchyTrash wrote: »

all PvE should be equalized, only that way skills matter

fighting AI is not the same as fighting other people, I feel like you're saying ignorant things on purpose..

I agree competitive PvP needs to reflect skills, imagine if skyring slam let +12 players fight +15 it's a joke and the gear creep already killed PvP.

I remember the day +15 came out, fraywind and skyring had been popping for weeks before that because they had released some gear (I thnk it was ambit) that was easy to +12. But in less than a week after +15 almost 0 players were Qing and it never recovered apart from power hours. Never recovered not once, even to this day outside of power hours.

Unequalised already killed PvP, learn from the past.

I'm not sure where you have been but for the entire starfall/imperator patch FWC was popping CONSTANTLY all times of the day/night.

this is definitely [filtered] lmao, one of the reason i quit was because bg like fwc didnt pop anywhere near the word constantly.

I had zero problems getting into fwc matches with my gf, it could help I was qing with a healer.

Either way I had matches during sf/imp patch constantly.

Elveneyes · May 2017

during imp/sf fwc did pop always in my own experience i quit though around the time eq became a thing as what reason is there to gear as a pvp player? GvG got killed, BG's pointless to gear for, CU? zerg fest, 3's sure but i enjoyed fwc and GvG's when GvG had a reason

the gear issue wasn't much of an issue when conflate was decent since it was beyond easy to get these days idk rally drops vm like crazy

Koikoi · May 2017

Elveneyes wrote: »

during imp/sf fwc did pop always in my own experience i quit though around the time eq became a thing as what reason is there to gear as a pvp player? GvG got killed, BG's pointless to gear for, CU? zerg fest, 3's sure but i enjoyed fwc and GvG's when GvG had a reason

the gear issue wasn't much of an issue when conflate was decent since it was beyond easy to get these days idk rally drops vm like crazy

Conflat was fine for fwc. So was the "eq gear" they gave under ilvl players in fwc.

By not having a UnEQ BG it's such a slap in the face to PvPers.

Take Harrow Hold for example. Most raids want +15 players in there for good reason. It's the top PvE raid content, best rewards and those that gear up and learn it should reap those rewards. PvP players need an equivalent.

JKPYK5AK4K · May 2017

i like the ppl crying about unequalized gear meanwhile when we had the option to queue for equalized or unequalized pvp, guess which was the one that popped and which one had an eternal queue.

MiskuChan · May 2017

Koikoi wrote: »

Elveneyes wrote: »

during imp/sf fwc did pop always in my own experience i quit though around the time eq became a thing as what reason is there to gear as a pvp player? GvG got killed, BG's pointless to gear for, CU? zerg fest, 3's sure but i enjoyed fwc and GvG's when GvG had a reason

the gear issue wasn't much of an issue when conflate was decent since it was beyond easy to get these days idk rally drops vm like crazy

Conflat was fine for fwc. So was the "eq gear" they gave under ilvl players in fwc.

By not having a UnEQ BG it's such a slap in the face to PvPers.

You're going to have to explain carefully how unequalised is a slap in the face? Do you think the skyring slam tournaments were a slap in the face because they equalised the gear in there?

Koikoi · May 2017

MiskuChan wrote: »

Koikoi wrote: »

Elveneyes wrote: »

during imp/sf fwc did pop always in my own experience i quit though around the time eq became a thing as what reason is there to gear as a pvp player? GvG got killed, BG's pointless to gear for, CU? zerg fest, 3's sure but i enjoyed fwc and GvG's when GvG had a reason

the gear issue wasn't much of an issue when conflate was decent since it was beyond easy to get these days idk rally drops vm like crazy

Conflat was fine for fwc. So was the "eq gear" they gave under ilvl players in fwc.

By not having a UnEQ BG it's such a slap in the face to PvPers.

You're going to have to explain carefully how unequalised is a slap in the face? Do you think the skyring slam tournaments were a slap in the face because they equalised the gear in there?

Depends how they do it. Their CURRENT EQ gear is complete trash. There is no argument there once you look at the actual gear/stats.

Elveneyes · May 2017

i don't think eq is fine since it makes healers squishy as hell and certain classes at an insane disadvantage at least give them all conflate or a somewhat balanced pvp gear and then make that the new version of eq

berrymilk · May 2017

No thank you rng with being 15 to strong and being the main idea gear to pvp I would like to not lose due to my team being paper thank you

GlitchyTrash · May 2017

People say that it was too one sided when there was +15 involved. But ignore that it is still a factor in the current fwc. Majority of my games are still 1 team slaughtering the other. Not because of gear being too strong, but by it being paper thin and the team that is slightly more organized just burning the other very fast.

Haruuuu · May 2017

still much better than +15 behemoth vs weaker gears.

Make Fwc back unequalized!

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